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locked Re: Tech details

Judy F.
 

Mark, as you can imagine, I didn’t know half of what you were talking about, but when I read where Yahoo Groups started out as your creation, I was totally impressed.  Wow! 

 

Thanks for sharing the information.

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:15 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Tech details

 

fyi, if anyone is interested in some of the technical details behind groups.io, I've started posting about it over on my blog. http://wingedpig.com

 

Mark


locked Re: about messages from non-members

Judy F.
 

Hi Mark, thanks for the note.  You definitely have a non-nerd here!  Sometimes thing are being said and if we non-nerds don’t understand what is being discussed, it hard to say that will or won’t work. 

 

It’s nice to have members, but I prefer to have those that will stay and not join and unsubscribe in a couple of days.  As long as the ‘guest’ subscription or whatever the final name will be allows the moderator/owner to approve it, then it sounds OK.  Like I mentioned in my other note, the buying group requires all people who join to provide the required information.  That’s why it’s important that nothing happens without being pended first. 

 

Also, I can’t remember reading where groups.io would be having automated messages that would go out at various times, such as when someone joins, when someone is approve, leaves group, etc.  That’s how the potential members of the buying group get the message requesting the required information.

 

Thanks so much for doing this and having the beta group for input. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:21 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] about messages from non-members

 

Hi Judy,

 

Thanks for the feedback. I'm constantly concerned about making the system as easy to use as possible, and I do worry whenever adding a new feature that it adds to the complexity of the system. I depend on people like you (non-nerds :) ) for feedback and suggestions, because I, as a nerd, sometimes don't realize when something is too complicated or techy.

 

As I'm sure you know, one of the 'pain points' of email groups is getting people subscribed to them. That's why I'm interested in figuring out this 'guest subscription' idea, because it could help people with subscription issues. Rest assured that any feature added will not compromise the owner's complete control of their group, including who can post and who can subscribe.

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

Mark, since all groups aren’t used as discussion groups, so to speak, I would like for you to keep something in mind.  I moderate a group that is a buying and selling group.

 

1) All messages submitted as ads and they are pended for approve my the moderator.  Once that message is approved and posts on the group, from then on the discussions is between the seller and potential buyer personally.  So the potential buyer will do a reply in the group to the seller to discuss things..  Same thing if they are sending the message through their email program.  At no time, does that conversation appear on the group again. 

2) All members are pended for approval until that member provides specific information to the group name_owner@.....  I then approve or deny that request.   No members can join by sending an email request where they would automatically be approved as a member. 

3) All photos are posted by sellers of items they had submitted an ad for.  They have to provide required information on each photo that is done by posting the photo, click Edit and then adding the information on the two available lines below the photo. 

 

Based on what I’ve described, will groups.io allow all of this to happen without jumping through hoops to perform?

 

One more thing, like I’ve said I have read all of the messages and some things I understand and others sound way to complicated and technical.  Not that they aren’t good ideas, but just too complicated and technical for those of us that aren’t super techs like Shal.  I believe that’s part of the Neo problem now.  Instead of using the philosophy of ‘keep it simple stupid’, they are providing all of these bells and whistles that a lot of the groups don’t need or want and only half work.   So many of the members, moderators and owners of the various sewing/embroidery groups on Yahoo Groups are not computer literate or very little, so hopefully you are aware of this and keep those people in mind.  Same thing with those that are visually impaired.  That was a big issue when Neo was dropped on us.  Those people could no longer navigate the groups  because no one thought about that issue when they were doing their great job of developing this new Neo.  (This was said with tongue in cheek. LOL)

 

There is such a diverse group of people on Yahoo Groups that use the groups for different things, I’m afraid that if they aren’t providing some type of input in this Beta (maybe because they don’t even know about this), that their needs aren’t going to be met.

 

Sorry this was so long.

 

Thanks for all the work you have already done on this new venture.

  

 

Judy Faulkner

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 4:08 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] about messages from non-members

 

Cherrill,

 

If I add this feature, it will be something you can turn on or off. Here's how it would work (if turned on for your group):

 

A non-member sends a message to your group

It looks like a pending message to you, ie. you'll get a notification that you need to approve or reject it

If you approve it, the person is given an 'instant subscription' to your group and is set to receive only replies to their message

You will be able to see these instant subscriptions in your member list, and can unsubscribe or ban these people

 

A couple of things I haven't figured out yet:

 

There will be some mechanism to convert these instant subscriptions to normal subscriptions, which may very depending on whether the group is restricted or not (ie. requires approval before joining the group)

Does the user have to confirm their subscription or not?

 

Make sense? Please let me know what you think.

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

 

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Cherrill <cdjamieson@...> wrote:

I have a question about this because I am not sure I understand.

 

I own a group here so does this mean that someone who isn't a member of my group can send an email to my group via instant subscription.  

 

Cherrill

I've learned that being kind is more important than being right.

 

On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

 

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:


> And what should we call these? Temporary subscriptions?

Perhaps "instant subscriptions". It has a more positive connotation, and doesn't imply a time limit where there is none (they're limited to a thread, which may continue indefinitely). Or "reply-only subscriptions", which is descriptive (but a bit of a mouthful).

 

I like instant subscriptions.

 

Here's a possible hitch I've come up with. If you are not a Groups.io user at all, and send a message to a group and are instantly subscribed, you've effectively bypassed the email confirmation step and could receive email from the group without being opted-in. Do I have a confirmation step in there somewhere? Am I worrying too much about this?

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

 

 


locked Re: about messages from non-members

Judy F.
 

Laurence, sorry for the delay in replying to your concern in #3.

There is no special software that is used. Yahoo Groups has a Photos option where photos are put in albums. On the buyer group that I moderate, we create a set of albums each month with various sewing type categories and all of the members that are selling items can post photos of their item the applicable album. Each photo must have required information on each one. In order to do this in Yahoo Groups, you have to load the photo in the album and then click on Edit and the two lines will appear and the seller fills it in and does a save.

Sellers are not allowed to attach photos in their ad. If there is a photo, they state what album it is in.

Hope this clarifies item #3.

Thanks,



Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurence Taylor [mailto:g7mzh@gmx.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:08 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] about messages from non-members

On 04/11/2014 01:03, J. Faulkner wrote:
Mark, since all groups aren’t used as discussion groups, so to speak,
I would like for you to keep something in mind. I moderate a group
that is a buying and selling group.

1) All messages submitted as ads and they are pended for approve my
the moderator. Once that message is approved and posts on the group,
from then on the discussions is between the seller and potential buyer
personally. So the potential buyer will do a reply in the group to
the seller to discuss things. Same thing if they are sending the
message through their email program. At no time, does that
conversation appear on the group again.
This sounds like the "Reply to Sender" option (as opposed to "Reply to List"). Does Groups.Io have this facility?


2) All members are
pended for approval until that member provides specific information to
the group name_owner@yahoogroups.com. I then approve or deny that
request. No members can join by sending an email request where they
would automatically be approved as a member.
I think this was a bug in Yahoo groups whereby joining by email could bypass the approval process. Mark, do you have the means to send a prepared file to applicants, regardless of how they join or apply to join?


3) All photos are posted
by sellers of items they had submitted an ad for. They have to
provide required information on each photo that is done by posting the
photo, click Edit and then adding the information on the two available
lines below the photo.
I don't follow this; it sounds like you're using specific software to do that. Can't they just send the photo with their post? (Or are the photos stored separately from the posts?)


Thanks for all the work you have already done on this new venture.
Seconded.

--
rgds
LAurence


locked Re: Roadmap

 

Jim,

Would the count be confined to "real" hits, or would it include visits
by search engine spiders?
Ideally "real" hits, I would think.

Is there any way to distinguish them?
Beyond my knowledge. As I understand it there are rules spiders are supposed to follow, but perhaps not all do.

-- Shal


locked Re: Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

 

Mark,

The group name should be displayed on every page at the top, basically
directly to the right of the 'Home' link in the sidebar. Is it not
showing up for you? Should it be made more prominent?
Hmm... Now that I see it I remember seeing it previously. But last night I must have been blind or something.

Never mind.

-- Shal


locked Re: Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

Judy F.
 

Chris, Yahoo Groups  allows you to see a few messages on the About page when you access the group.  From there you can then select the option you want.  Maybe if something similar to that could be set up.  

 

I want my potential members to be able to access the group, read about it to see if it is suitable to their needs and then join or not join. 

 

Currently Yahoo Groups has various options that can be set on how you view conversations, photos, etc.  I would think if members had an option to select where they want to appear when they access the group is better than forcing all members to see conversations.  Again, since there is such a variety of groups, there needs to be more options so each member can see what they want when they access the group. 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Chris Leong [mailto:walkraft@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5:03 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

 

I wonder if people would be more likely to join a group if the messages were displayed first, rather than the group information page, once the group has a few messages.

 

Additionally, seeing that page each time you come back to the group probably is less useful given that you are more likely to want to see the messages, then the group information that you've seen fifty times before.


locked Re: First Impressions of Groups.io

 

I'd definitely 'like' (yuck yuck) to add likes as well. I forgot to include that in the roadmap.

Thanks,
Mark

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@...> wrote:
Here's a case where I'd like to acknowledge receipt of your thoughtful message, but don't have anything to add. In this case Facebook has a "Like" feature - which is a simple click.

Maybe something to bear in mind?

regards,
Ian

On 6 November 2014 18:38, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Ian,

Thanks so much for the feedback. It looks like after I complete the calendar (next day or so), I should work on the file section next.

Thanks,
Mark

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@...> wrote:

I own a number of Yahoo groups and have been casting around for alternatives - for obvious reasons. I've tried Google Groups and Facebook..

My first impressions of Groups.io are very favourable - the UI is clean, user-friendly, intuitive and attractive, with the better bits of Yahoo Neo plus the minimalism of Google.

My main groups are a mixed bag; a help group for expatriates in France, a group for expat engineers, a former employees group and a golf society group.

The following are the facilities I would like to see added ASAP:

A File Section

A Link Directory

The following would be nice but isn't immediately essential:

A Photo section (being able to post inline or attached photos in messages answers the primary need for photos).

I have no need for:

Database

Polls

I hope this helps and I wish those working on groups.io every success in their venture.

regards,

Ian

--
_____________________________________________________
tessel.bas@... or iangillis@...
Site Web http://www..notrevieenfrance.net
Blog http://stecolombedevilleneuve.wordpress.com/







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locked Re: First Impressions of Groups.io

 

Here's a case where I'd like to acknowledge receipt of your thoughtful message, but don't have anything to add. In this case Facebook has a "Like" feature - which is a simple click.

Maybe something to bear in mind?

regards,
Ian

On 6 November 2014 18:38, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Ian,

Thanks so much for the feedback. It looks like after I complete the calendar (next day or so), I should work on the file section next.

Thanks,
Mark

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@...> wrote:

I own a number of Yahoo groups and have been casting around for alternatives - for obvious reasons. I've tried Google Groups and Facebook.

My first impressions of Groups.io are very favourable - the UI is clean, user-friendly, intuitive and attractive, with the better bits of Yahoo Neo plus the minimalism of Google.

My main groups are a mixed bag; a help group for expatriates in France, a group for expat engineers, a former employees group and a golf society group.

The following are the facilities I would like to see added ASAP:

A File Section

A Link Directory

The following would be nice but isn't immediately essential:

A Photo section (being able to post inline or attached photos in messages answers the primary need for photos).

I have no need for:

Database

Polls

I hope this helps and I wish those working on groups.io every success in their venture.

regards,

Ian

--
_____________________________________________________
tessel.bas@... or iangillis@...
Site Web http://www.notrevieenfrance.net
Blog http://stecolombedevilleneuve.wordpress.com/








locked Re: Roadmap

 

Would the count be confined to "real" hits, or would it include visits by
search engine spiders? Is there any way to distinguish them? I'm fairly sure
the counts on my personal web site pages must include spiders for them to be so
high in some cases.

Jim Fisher

On 5 Nov 2014 at 14:56, Shal Farley wrote:

Mark,

> Am I missing a killer feature?

I don't think it is "killer", but I was just looking at my company's
Wordpress stats page and that reminded me that some "hit stats" for
various group resources was a perennial request in the Yahoo Groups
suggestion board.

-- Shal
http://curiouser.cheshireeng.com/
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http://jimellame.tumblr.com - My thoughts on freedom
http://jimella.wordpress.com - political snippets, especially economic policy
http://jimella.livejournal.com - misc. snippets, some political, some not
Forget Google! I search with https://duckduckgo.com which doesn't spy on you


locked Re: Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

 

Chris,

I wonder if people would be more likely to join a group if the
messages were displayed first, rather than the group information
page, once the group has a few messages.

Additionally, seeing that page each time you come back to the group
probably is less useful given that you are more likely to want to see
the messages, then the group information that you've seen fifty times
before.
This is a question that went round-and-round a few times, with lots of confusion, in the early part of Yahoo Groups Neo.

Part of the confusion was the meaning of "go to the group" or "come back to the group". The exact answer is that you end up on the page specified by URL you used. What else?

So really the confusion had to do with where people were obtaining the URL. But in discussion people were not being specific about whether they were talking about a bookmark, a link in a message/digest, the link in the list of top groups on the left, the link in the All my Groups page, a link in the directory or a directory search result, ...

Part of the confusion had to do with a technical difference between the URL structure of Classic and Neo groups. In classic an URL of the form:

..../group/groupname

referred to the group's "home" page. In Neo that syntax is a 404 error - there is no "home" or "base" page for the group.

Rather one uses:

..../groups/groupname/info

for the About page. So now we have "home", "about" and "info" as synonyms in the Yahoo Groups vernacular, further muddying the language. And yes, they also made that silly change to "groups" in plural; that's not my typo.

But back to the point, it isn't so much who the user is (member or non-member) that ought (IMO) to determine where they end up, but where they get the URL. So it is important to specify that as part of any discussion about where a link "to the group" ought to take the person.

-- Shal


locked Tech details

 

fyi, if anyone is interested in some of the technical details behind groups.io, I've started posting about it over on my blog. http://wingedpig.com

Mark


locked Re: Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

 

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

Good point. Last night I noticed that while looking at the archive, settings or other group pages the identity of the group is not displayed anywhere, save the browser address bar.


The group name should be displayed on every page at the top, basically directly to the right of the 'Home' link in the sidebar. Is it not showing up for you? Should it be made more prominent?


Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

 

Ian said:

So the group information page is the top level of a decision tree -
and the banner picture helps to confirm that a member or
administrator has come to the correct group ...
Good point. Last night I noticed that while looking at the archive, settings or other group pages the identity of the group is not displayed anywhere, save the browser address bar.

I don't know that we need the cover image on all pages, as Yahoo Groups Neo does, but I think the group name and title ought to be showing somewhere in the header area.

-- Shal


locked Re: First Impressions of Groups.io

 

Ian,

Thanks so much for the feedback. It looks like after I complete the calendar (next day or so), I should work on the file section next.

Thanks,
Mark

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@...> wrote:

I own a number of Yahoo groups and have been casting around for alternatives - for obvious reasons. I've tried Google Groups and Facebook.

My first impressions of Groups.io are very favourable - the UI is clean, user-friendly, intuitive and attractive, with the better bits of Yahoo Neo plus the minimalism of Google.

My main groups are a mixed bag; a help group for expatriates in France, a group for expat engineers, a former employees group and a golf society group.

The following are the facilities I would like to see added ASAP:

A File Section

A Link Directory

The following would be nice but isn't immediately essential:

A Photo section (being able to post inline or attached photos in messages answers the primary need for photos).

I have no need for:

Database

Polls

I hope this helps and I wish those working on groups.io every success in their venture.

regards,

Ian

--
_____________________________________________________
tessel.bas@... or iangillis@...
Site Web http://www.notrevieenfrance.net
Blog http://stecolombedevilleneuve.wordpress.com/





locked Re: Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

 

Chris,
People do not necessarily go to the group web page to see messages. They may wish to see Files or Photos (assuming those facilities are to be added) and moderators may wish to perform various administrative tasks. So the group information page is the top level of a decision tree - and the banner picture helps to confirm that a member or administrator has come to the correct group and it also adds eye-appeal for the prospective member.
regards,
Ian

On 6 November 2014 11:02, Chris Leong <walkraft@...> wrote:

I wonder if people would be more likely to join a group if the messages were displayed first, rather than the group information page, once the group has a few messages.

Additionally, seeing that page each time you come back to the group probably is less useful given that you are more likely to want to see the messages, then the group information that you've seen fifty times before.

_._,_.



locked Re: Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

ro-esp
 

walkraft@gmail.com sendis:

I wonder if people would be more likely to join a group if the messages were displayed first, rather than the group information page, once the group has a few messages.

Additionally, seeing that page each time you come back to the group probably is less useful given that you are more likely to want to see the messages, then the group information that you've seen fifty times before.
If you already are a member, you probably want to see the oldest message that wasn't there the previous time you visited.

If you're not a member, especially when the group archive is not public, you should see the group description.

groetjes, Ronaldo



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locked Is it better for the home screen to be group details or an archive of previous messages?

 

I wonder if people would be more likely to join a group if the messages were displayed first, rather than the group information page, once the group has a few messages.


Additionally, seeing that page each time you come back to the group probably is less useful given that you are more likely to want to see the messages, then the group information that you've seen fifty times before.


locked First Impressions of Groups.io

 

I own a number of Yahoo groups and have been casting around for alternatives - for obvious reasons. I've tried Google Groups and Facebook.

My first impressions of Groups.io are very favourable - the UI is clean, user-friendly, intuitive and attractive, with the better bits of Yahoo Neo plus the minimalism of Google.

My main groups are a mixed bag; a help group for expatriates in France, a group for expat engineers, a former employees group and a golf society group.

The following are the facilities I would like to see added ASAP:

A File Section

A Link Directory

The following would be nice but isn't immediately essential:

A Photo section (being able to post inline or attached photos in messages answers the primary need for photos).

I have no need for:

Database

Polls

I hope this helps and I wish those working on groups.io every success in their venture.

regards,

Ian

--
_____________________________________________________
 tessel.bas@... or iangillis@...
Site Web http://www.notrevieenfrance.net
Blog http://stecolombedevilleneuve.wordpress.com/




locked Re: Roadmap

 

Mark,

Am I missing a killer feature?
I don't think it is "killer", but I was just looking at my company's Wordpress stats page and that reminded me that some "hit stats" for various group resources was a perennial request in the Yahoo Groups suggestion board.

-- Shal
http://curiouser.cheshireeng.com/


locked Re: about messages from non-members

 

Hi Judy,

Thanks for the feedback. I'm constantly concerned about making the system as easy to use as possible, and I do worry whenever adding a new feature that it adds to the complexity of the system. I depend on people like you (non-nerds :) ) for feedback and suggestions, because I, as a nerd, sometimes don't realize when something is too complicated or techy.

As I'm sure you know, one of the 'pain points' of email groups is getting people subscribed to them. That's why I'm interested in figuring out this 'guest subscription' idea, because it could help people with subscription issues. Rest assured that any feature added will not compromise the owner's complete control of their group, including who can post and who can subscribe.

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:03 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

Mark, since all groups aren’t used as discussion groups, so to speak, I would like for you to keep something in mind.  I moderate a group that is a buying and selling group.

 

1) All messages submitted as ads and they are pended for approve my the moderator.  Once that message is approved and posts on the group, from then on the discussions is between the seller and potential buyer personally.  So the potential buyer will do a reply in the group to the seller to discuss things..  Same thing if they are sending the message through their email program.  At no time, does that conversation appear on the group again. 

2) All members are pended for approval until that member provides specific information to the group name_owner@.....  I then approve or deny that request.   No members can join by sending an email request where they would automatically be approved as a member. 

3) All photos are posted by sellers of items they had submitted an ad for.  They have to provide required information on each photo that is done by posting the photo, click Edit and then adding the information on the two available lines below the photo. 

 

Based on what I’ve described, will groups.io allow all of this to happen without jumping through hoops to perform?

 

One more thing, like I’ve said I have read all of the messages and some things I understand and others sound way to complicated and technical.  Not that they aren’t good ideas, but just too complicated and technical for those of us that aren’t super techs like Shal.  I believe that’s part of the Neo problem now.  Instead of using the philosophy of ‘keep it simple stupid’, they are providing all of these bells and whistles that a lot of the groups don’t need or want and only half work.   So many of the members, moderators and owners of the various sewing/embroidery groups on Yahoo Groups are not computer literate or very little, so hopefully you are aware of this and keep those people in mind.  Same thing with those that are visually impaired.  That was a big issue when Neo was dropped on us.  Those people could no longer navigate the groups  because no one thought about that issue when they were doing their great job of developing this new Neo.  (This was said with tongue in cheek. LOL)

 

There is such a diverse group of people on Yahoo Groups that use the groups for different things, I’m afraid that if they aren’t providing some type of input in this Beta (maybe because they don’t even know about this), that their needs aren’t going to be met.

 

Sorry this was so long.

 

Thanks for all the work you have already done on this new venture.

  

 

Judy Faulkner

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 4:08 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] about messages from non-members

 

Cherrill,

 

If I add this feature, it will be something you can turn on or off. Here's how it would work (if turned on for your group):

 

A non-member sends a message to your group

It looks like a pending message to you, ie. you'll get a notification that you need to approve or reject it

If you approve it, the person is given an 'instant subscription' to your group and is set to receive only replies to their message

You will be able to see these instant subscriptions in your member list, and can unsubscribe or ban these people

 

A couple of things I haven't figured out yet:

 

There will be some mechanism to convert these instant subscriptions to normal subscriptions, which may very depending on whether the group is restricted or not (ie. requires approval before joining the group)

Does the user have to confirm their subscription or not?

 

Make sense? Please let me know what you think.

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

 

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Cherrill <cdjamieson@...> wrote:

I have a question about this because I am not sure I understand.

 

I own a group here so does this mean that someone who isn't a member of my group can send an email to my group via instant subscription.  

 

Cherrill

I've learned that being kind is more important than being right.


 

On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

 

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:


> And what should we call these? Temporary subscriptions?

Perhaps "instant subscriptions". It has a more positive connotation, and doesn't imply a time limit where there is none (they're limited to a thread, which may continue indefinitely). Or "reply-only subscriptions", which is descriptive (but a bit of a mouthful).

 

I like instant subscriptions.

 

Here's a possible hitch I've come up with. If you are not a Groups.io user at all, and send a message to a group and are instantly subscribed, you've effectively bypassed the email confirmation step and could receive email from the group without being opted-in. Do I have a confirmation step in there somewhere? Am I worrying too much about this?

 

Thanks,

Mark