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moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

David Hartwell
 

Mark,

1) Does the outage only affect transfer of messages, or everything? I don't need messages transferred, just everything else. So I'm wondering if maybe the present outage wouldn't prevent this. (I have already archived our Yahoo group messages and am working on getting them in mbox file format for import).

2) I think we need some transfer help. Presently, the transfer of our group (UnsolvedProblems), seems to be stuck in limbo. It was first attempted about a month ago and a few more times since. When I try it again, it just says "That Yahoo Group is already a part of another transfer." but there is no transfer status and nothing has been transferred. The transfer steps were not done exactly in order (due to a change in group ownership mid-way), so maybe that's the cause.

David


moderated if you want to try to export your stuff...

ajomccauley@...
 

...just as a backup plan, truly!

This member export script worked for me. I was able to get our list of 1700 members exported to json files of 100 members each (you might be able to go bigger, I didn't try):
http://yahoogroupedia.pbworks.com/w/page/79909487/Chrome%20Application%20to%20Download%20Members

Note: I didn't use the chrome extension, I looked at the code and got the data exported simply by going to the URL (I think if you download the ZIP and look at it, you'll see what I mean).
Note: I did this before November.
Note: I haven't tried the companion script to download the message archive.

Hope this helps! I'm on my phone at the moment, but if there's interest, I can dig up some more info, I think I still have stuff saved on my computer.

(To be clear, we used and were beyond happy with the groups.io transfer service, I only did this download as a "just in case" backup.)

Cheers,
Alison


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

 

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 06:52 PM, Alisdair MacRae Birch wrote:
the zip file contains all the data (posts, files, photos etc) from all the groups that I was ever subscribed to
That's actually somewhat scary!
 
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Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Ann Kelsey
 

My group is in the same boat. It took awhile for us to decide, partially because some of us were out of the country,  and when we finally did, yahoo went fubar and Mark had to suspend requests for group transfers. We are also holding our breaths. 


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Ali
 

While we all wait ... If you haven't done so it is probably a good idea to request all your group data from Yahoo. This page has instructions:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/4/20917500/yahoo-group-data-download-how-to

I put the request in several weeks ago and a few days ago got an email notice that it was ready to be downloaded. The zip file I received was over 2Gb. What is interesting and surprising is the zip file contains all the data (posts, files, photos etc) from all the groups that I was ever subscribed to including 10 that no longer exist or are inaccessible! I don't know if this is some change Yahoo/Verizon has made but I really only expected to receive the posts, YMMV.


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Daniel Allen
 

Sigh. Taking deep breaths, hoping Yahoo stops falling down long enough to get our group transferred over. 

We made the mistake of taking the whole last month to decide between groups.io, Discourse, and slack (our building with 140 families, where a surprisingly balanced mix of people seemed in favour of each option). The condo board approved spending the money to transfer to groups.io last night and I apparently just missed the window before Yahoo went pear-shaped again. 

*fingers crossed*

Daniel Allen
Kitchener, Ontario


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Glenn Glazer
 

On 11/29/2019 12:30, J_Catlady wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:35 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Yahoo is erroring out
Doing what Yahoo does best!

I think they are trolling us.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:35 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Yahoo is erroring out
Doing what Yahoo does best!
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Catherine Dold <cathydold@...>
 

Yes, a big thank you from me as well! 

Our group got transferred Wednesday night, and people are already loving it. We have 650 people and 19 years of messages -- all preserved thanks to you!

Cathy


On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:52 PM Katherine Fritz <kmfritz@...> wrote:
Wow, I just squeaked in this morning by getting in a transfer request for my family group - 20 years of messages my sister described as a "big box of letters," including many from my father and my uncle who have since passed away.

Mark, thank you for everything you've been doing and continue to do to save so many of these longtime groups so important to so many of us.

best regards,
Katie



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moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Charles Roberts
 

Well said Katie, well said.

Chuck, CABGx3



On Nov 29, 2019 2:06 PM, Katherine Fritz <kmfritz@...> wrote:
Wow, I just squeaked in this morning by getting in a transfer request for my family group - 20 years of messages my sister described as a "big box of letters," including many from my father and my uncle who have since passed away.

Mark, thank you for everything you've been doing and continue to do to save so many of these longtime groups so important to so many of us.

best regards,
Katie


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Katherine Fritz
 

Wow, I just squeaked in this morning by getting in a transfer request for my family group - 20 years of messages my sister described as a "big box of letters," including many from my father and my uncle who have since passed away.

Mark, thank you for everything you've been doing and continue to do to save so many of these longtime groups so important to so many of us.

best regards,
Katie


moderated Another Yahoo Groups outage

 

Hi All,

Once again, I've had to disable new transfer requests. Yahoo is erroring out for the vast majority of our requests. I'll update if/when this changes.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Invitations to Yahoogroups

Myron Walters
 

I hadthe same problem with invites. I was able to refresh the page and then the invite worked.  I had to use the same solution when I set transfer@groups.io moderator.


moderated Re: Yahoo transfers are working again

Ann Goodspeed <Goodspeedanne@...>
 

They sure are!  Thank you so much Mark and everyone else who answered my questions, my groups move is complete!  

Ann Goodspeed


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Glenn Glazer
 

On 11/26/2019 20:30, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Changes to the site this week:

  • API: Added /sendloginlink, /resendconfirmationemail and /unbounceuser endpoints.
  • API: Added /getsubgroupsbycategory endpoint.
  • NEW: When changing your email address, we now send a notification email to your old email address.
  • API: Added /getsubgroupcategories endpoint.

Because of the holiday, the next #changelog will be on Friday, December 6th.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


Happy holidays, Mark. I think everyone here would agree that we are thankful for all you do.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Yahoo transfers are working again

Gilbert Coville
 

Maria,

A common solution is to change your old yahoo group to 100% moderated. Then, if anyone writes to the old group, you can gently remind them that the group has moved to groups.io.

Gilbert

On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Maria Lazzarino <manager@asistahelp.org> wrote:

It sure is Mark!! THANK YOU THANK YOU - i just got the msg from you all about our new group, and I see messages and members YAY! . Question - thoughts on what to do with the 'old' group? Do I shut it down? This is all new to me. I'm worried people will still send messages to there...thanks again!


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • API: Added /sendloginlink, /resendconfirmationemail and /unbounceuser endpoints.
  • API: Added /getsubgroupsbycategory endpoint.
  • NEW: When changing your email address, we now send a notification email to your old email address.
  • API: Added /getsubgroupcategories endpoint.

Because of the holiday, the next #changelog will be on Friday, December 6th.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Yahoo transfers are working again

Ali
 

Mark

That's Great, hopefully it stays fixed! 😀 I am assuming that my "Easy Yahoo Group Transfer Setup" for the sites submitted says "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite." and heard nothing else is because you are dealing with a backlog? I am sure your fully overloaded, so don't mean to pester you, I'm asking just to make sure I don't need to do anything else, but wait for your response, and for those who are wondering the same thing! 😀

Thanks

-A


moderated Re: Yahoo transfers are working again

Maria Lazzarino
 

It sure is Mark!! THANK YOU THANK YOU - i just got the msg from you all about our new group, and I see messages and members YAY! . Question - thoughts on what to do with the 'old' group? Do I shut it down? This is all new to me. I'm worried people will still send messages to there...thanks again! 


moderated Yahoo transfers are working again

 

Hi All,

It appears that whatever was ailing Yahoo has been (mostly) fixed, and I'm able to complete group transfers again. I've re-enabled new transfer requests. Fingers crossed Yahoo stays up for awhile.

Needless to say, if you're thinking of transferring your group, I'd seize the moment.

Thanks,
Mark

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