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moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

Janis
 

Mark,
I was able to add one of my other email addresses to one of my Yahoo groups. I did this by checking the box to add only to email list.  It sent an invite to my AOL which I accepted.  Then I promoted New Member Me with the AOL address to Moderator.I
I do not know if it makes a difference but the AOL address is already in another group using a YahooID and has been a moderator in this other Yahoo group.

If getting access is the problem with Yahoo transfers, I think you can use this.  Only the way to add the new member has changed. Everything else worked the same.

Have group owners check the box for the add only to email option and 
the invite will go through so your team can accept it.

Hope this helps.  My groups are already transferred, but I am concerned for others.

Janis


moderated Invitations to Yahoogroups

Simon Hedges
 

Hi,

 

I’m having problems inviting transfer@groups.io to my Yahoogroups – I’ve tried repeatedly over several days, but it throws up an error each time.  Are others having issues with this?

 

Simon


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

Ali
 

We've been archiving the two groups we submitted on Friday 11/22, as a back, just in case! But as you said Sun 11/24 and Mon 11/25 it has been very temperamental with time-outs and repeatedly asking for logins. Since about 7pm EST today Mon 11/25, it seems to have settled down somewhat and we are proceeding well. Hopefully you are finding the same!

-A


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 7:12 AM <manager@...> wrote:
We upgraded to premium last week and groups.io accepted our moderator request on Friday, November 22, 2019 telling us you  all would keep us posted (and to expect a delay etc.).

How do I find out if we are part of the group that is now in limbo? The only message I see on our group page is in the easy group transfer request and it says not to upgrade premium because of the outage (we already did this though).

If your group hasn't been transferred yet, you're in the same boat.

I was able to transfer 4 groups last night during (an apparently brief) window of Yahoo working ok. But then Yahoo started erroring out again. I will continue to keep trying.


Mark


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

Ann Goodspeed <Goodspeedanne@...>
 

I’m in the same boat. 

Ann Goodspeed

On Nov 25, 2019, at 10:12 AM, manager@... wrote:

We upgraded to premium last week and groups.io accepted our moderator request on Friday, November 22, 2019 telling us you  all would keep us posted (and to expect a delay etc.).

How do I find out if we are part of the group that is now in limbo? The only message I see on our group page is in the easy group transfer request and it says not to upgrade premium because of the outage (we already did this though).

Appreciate all of your help!
Ahlam


moderated Re: Transfer GIO group to another GIO subgroup?

Greg Elmassian
 

A similar request, so trying not to derail this topic.

Need to subsume one group into another.... created a group since original yahoo group did not want to move (actually procrastinating)....

this year the original yahoo group decided to move, and I am the owner of the first, smaller group: Zimo, and the larger migrated group Zimo-DCC....

All I need is the messages from Zimo copied into Zimo-DCC, then I will delete the Zimo group.

I can export messages, just not import.... so we just need one small piece... clearly there is a way to import since you have transferred Yahoo groups.


Greg Elmassian


moderated Thankful!

Tom Biggs GFCA
 

Mark,
 
Thank you for getting our group transferred just under the wire last Friday.  We had only made the decision on Monday night to move to Groups.io.  We worked on it around the clock and had multiple issues with Yahoo! before we were set up for transfer.  Once the ready for transfer button was pushed and from all that has been written here, I thought it would take days at least, instead it took minutes. Little did we know we weren't just waiting in line, but instead were in a race against the crushing tidal wave of Yahoo's implosion.  I've been impressed by your attention to detail AND your ability to communicate, keeping us in the loop.  Keep up your good work!
--
Tom Biggs
GFCA


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

Maria Lazzarino
 

We upgraded to premium last week and groups.io accepted our moderator request on Friday, November 22, 2019 telling us you  all would keep us posted (and to expect a delay etc.).

How do I find out if we are part of the group that is now in limbo? The only message I see on our group page is in the easy group transfer request and it says not to upgrade premium because of the outage (we already did this though).

Appreciate all of your help!
Ahlam


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

 

J_Catlady asks:
> My question: Is it now the case that more of yahoo
> groups is dysfunctional than prsviously announced -
> i.e., is the mailing list functionality also down or
> degraded at this point?
 
J -
I can offer my experience for what limited value it is. One group I belong(ed) to, and which we were copying to groups.io, simply ceased to exist according to Yahoo about November 7th. It showed up in my Yahoo groups list for another couple weeks, but now no longer exists there either.
 
The lesson I'm drawing from all this is that Y! is incapable of keeping such a system operating and their word means nothing. At this point I don't expect anything viable to remain of Y! groups after a year. They took a system that worked well and was still drawing attention and slowly ''fixed it'' until it was completely broken.
 
Dano
 


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

 

Thanks Mark for working on all this!  Gesine


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

 

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 8:20 PM Myron Walters <mwalters999@...> wrote:
Will the December 1 cut off date for transfers be postponed if Yahoo! hasn’t fix their problem by then?

Well, we're kind of cut off right now as it is. I will keep trying and if things improve, I'll process what we have and make a decision then.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: We are caught up

Greg Elmassian
 

I have transferred 11 groups, one very recently, and I guess I just got under the wire for the last transfer. Thanks to all the effort, and how you really stepped up to the plate, when I did my last transfer there were 945 groups ahead of me, so WELL DONE.

Greg Elmassian


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

Myron Walters
 

Will the December 1 cut off date for transfers be postponed if Yahoo! hasn’t fix their problem by then?


moderated Re: Want to lock historic message, but allow editing on new messages #suggestion

Mo
 

Thanks.  All very good suggestions.

Going for sub-groups to use as main talking groups eventually as wanna work out how many of the members actually interact or actively lurking.

This will be used too.
Why don't you try going into your Settings page, scrolling down to Message Policies, and setting x in "Automatically Lock Topics after x Days" to the interval between now and the last yahoo message
Have made the setting today.  So that is utterly perfect.

Will use entry point to group as an Archive and just keep it locked down.

Cheers
Mo


moderated Re: Want to lock historic message, but allow editing on new messages #suggestion

Duane
 

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 02:15 PM, JohnF wrote:
load all of the Yahoo messages into locked topics
I believe the message 'owner' can still delete a message, even if the topic is locked, though I haven't tried to verify it.

Duane


moderated Re: Want to lock historic message, but allow editing on new messages #suggestion

 

Why don't you try going into your Settings page, scrolling down to Message Policies, and setting x in "Automatically Lock Topics after x Days" to the interval between now and the last yahoo message thread (like, maybe, 10 days? or whenever the last historical message was posted that you want locked). groups.io will go through at midnight and lock all the topics older than x days. Then tomorrow, you can undo the setting. All the old topics that were locked will stay locked, and no new ones will time out. You may miss a few stragglers but it should get you close enough to what you want.

You can edit any locked topic so you can still add your hashtags, but you would have to do that by hand.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

I can't say about what does or does not work on your old Yahoo group, but I made a new group on Yahoo after the October 28 deadline to monitor Yahoo falling apart. It had been mostly working up until today, including online posting and uploading files and so on.

All that is left now is the mailing list functionality. Surprisingly, at least to me, emailed posts are still also showing up online, although you can't reply or post online. Anyway, this is pretty much what they had threatened for October 28th. Looks like they gave a few extra weeks.


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Gerald


moderated Re: Want to lock historic message, but allow editing on new messages #suggestion

 

My first thought would be to ask if it's OK to load the old Yahoo group into a subgroup of the new Groups.io group, and make that subgroup read only. Then the main group can be used going forward, and if anyone wants to look up what was done in the past, they can visit the subgroup without being able to post there.

If everything has to be in the main group, then the best way to do it would probably be to load all of the Yahoo messages into locked topics. I don't know if that would have any ill effects.

JohnF

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 11:31 AM, Mo wrote:


Hi Mark/Community,

I have taken over a yahoogroup spanning 15 years.

I want to draw a virtual dotted line where anything in past is only viewable
as a library/archive, but all new postings are editable by members, but not
the old stuff that came across. Is this possible with current settings?

Also maybe to add hashtags to the old messages for searching purposes but
that's all.

Thanks


moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

txercoupemuseum.org
 

Hi Mark,

Does this “free up” some of your time to consider some “system” tweaks?

In particular, I’d REALLY like to see a “Select all” option for the members display.  It is an unreasonable and unnecessary waste of Owner/Moderator time to have to plod through 1000+ members manually checking twenty at a time to make bulk adjustments.

One of my Moderators suggested that, for groups migrating over, there is no “need” to have to “approve” the first message sent out by people who have long belonged with no spam problem.  I know I (and probably most other Owners) checked the box to require this, but with the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, it is inappropriate to subject members of no spamming threat (and my Moderators) to such inconvenience that serves no valid purpose.  Would be nice to have a way to make a bulk adjustment of all such members to “unmoderated” (or other status).

Best!

WRB

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On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

The Yahoo Groups outage continues, preventing us from exporting group messages. For now, I have disabled the ability to create new transfer requests, and have posted a note on the Yahoo Group transfer page telling people to not upgrade their group to Premium until the outage is over.

I don't want people upgrading their groups and then us not being able to do the transfer.

Thanks,
Mark
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moderated Re: New Yahoo Group transfer requests disabled

 

Mark,

My block has both an old yahoo group (started by someone other than me) and a groups.io group that I started about 4 years ago. The yahoo people would not budge and join the new group until recently, when some of them started to realize that yahoo might actually go down. Still, many of them won’t join the new group because all they care about is the mailing list functionality. My question: Is it now the case that more of yahoo groups is dysfunctional than prsviously announced - i.e., is the mailing list functionality also down or degraded at this point?

Thanks for any info.


On Nov 23, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

The Yahoo Groups outage continues, preventing us from exporting group messages. For now, I have disabled the ability to create new transfer requests, and have posted a note on the Yahoo Group transfer page telling people to not upgrade their group to Premium until the outage is over.

I don't want people upgrading their groups and then us not being able to do the transfer.

Thanks,
Mark

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.

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