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moderated pending members to review

deborah
 

Hello

I just created a new group on io, and I am going to transfer my old Yahoo group onto it.

I have a question: I see a new pending member I do not know.

When Yahoo used to work, pending members would receive an automated email asking them to write a short presentation so I could check whether they correspond to the group's purpose. 

How can I set this in io groups ?

with many thanks

Deborah (Paris, France)


moderated Re: Event: Downtime to upgrade main database machine #downtime - Monday, 21 October 2019 #downtime #cal-invite

Dave Sergeant
 

It ain't going to make me afraid either as at that time most of us in
the UK will be snuggly tucked up in bed. Thanks Mark.

I expect the Yahoogroups surge is huge. What is the current delay for
processing transfers? Expecting one of my groups to transfer soon (not
one I moderate).

Dave

On 20 Oct 2019 at 15:02, J_Catlady wrote:

The announcement that Mark has just made
Is not gonna make me afraid.
The site's going down
But I'm not gonna frown,
Cuz the downtime is just to upgrade.
--

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Message edit menu missing picture and attach file option

Laurence Marks
 

That's SO much more tedious. There are a lot of them--and a lot of other Yahoo! groups have this problem.

--
Larry Marks


moderated Re: Message edit menu missing picture and attach file option

Duane
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 06:28 PM, <marks@...> wrote:
Is it too late to reopen this discussion?
No, but I don't think it will lead to anything.  Uploading the attachments to the Files area and putting links where the [attachment] info is seems like the way to go.

Duane


moderated Re: Message edit menu missing picture and attach file option

Laurence Marks
 

I'm reopening this feature request in light of the mass migration beginning to take place from Yahoo. I am planning to port the group to Groups.io.

My Yahoo group, like many others, is heavily populated with attachments. Around 25% of the messages have attachments. One of the primary values of the group is its service as an archive for these attachments. New volunteers to area of disaster recovery read these attachments to learn about FEMA policies, state policies, and resources available to help disaster survivors.

Unfortunately, the migration from Yahoo includes messages, file, photos, and members, but does not include attachments. And it is likely that there is insufficient time to develop and test that feature before the Yahoo shutdown on December 14.

I have already downloaded the messages, files, and attachments so the data remains available. It's 0.21 GB in size, so size will not be an issue. If I had the ability to add attachments to the message, I could add the attachments at leisure once the port takes place.

As it is, I am faced with the more tedious task of loading each attachment to the file store, then editing each message to include a link to the associated file(s).

As I understand it, the decision was made to disallow moderator addition of attachments because it was felt that content was sacrosanct and shouldn't be tampered with. In this case, I am restoring content to its original form. Inserting a link instead of an attachment would be distorting the form.

I believe I've made a good case for permitting moderators to add attachments, at least for a period after porting from Yahoo. I understand that it could be an easy change.

But as I think about it, I wonder whether the global decision was the right approach. I'm thinking that perhaps each group creator ought to be able to make that decision. Since our group's messages are a reference, an archive, and a resource, there's no need for long-term retention of short messages like "About time!", "I agree", or the inevitable personal message sent to the group by mistake. I prune these messages. Since I'm taking this liberty with content, restoring attachments seems like a small thing in comparison.

Is it too late to reopen this discussion?

Larry


moderated Re: Update/Request

Ginny T.
 

Hang in there Mark - and do what you can when you can. I know that you're trying your best to do everything for everyone.... and on the other hand, the people that have been hanging on to YG all these months, well...  they could have avoided this (and so could you!).
I know the workload is horrendous and will likely only get worse; I hope that even with that considered that YG is playing nice with the transfers as opposed to the issues that were going on when we moved 18 months ago. Take care of you -
Ginny
--
Ginny T.  gttemari21@...
========
TemariKai.com


moderated Re: Is a searchable directory being considered?

ro-esp
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 07:24 PM, Mark Baumann wrote:


Duane, what am I missing, I don't see a search button on the Directory page of
a particular Group. Is there a way Group subscribers can search for other
subscribers by country, area of practice, etc?
I don't think that that's feasible without seriously infringing on people's privacy, and a huge amount of programming

groetjes, Ronaldo


moderated Re: Is a searchable directory being considered?

ro-esp
 

I wholeheartedly agree. Yahoogroups COULD have been far more popular and useful if the public directory had worked and had been properly moderated. When someone like me does a groupsearch for "nederland" or "nederlands" and gets thousands of "hits" about fake sexdatingsites....that does not provide happy users.

Of course it has to be up to the founder of the group whether a group is "listed in directory" or not


groetjes, Ronaldo


moderated Re: Event: Downtime to upgrade main database machine #downtime - Monday, 21 October 2019 #downtime #cal-invite

 

The announcement that Mark has just made
Is not gonna make me afraid.
The site's going down
But I'm not gonna frown,
Cuz the downtime is just to upgrade.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Event: Downtime to upgrade main database machine #downtime - Monday, 21 October 2019 #downtime #cal-invite

main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Downtime to upgrade main database machine #downtime

When:
Monday, 21 October 2019
6:00pm to 8:00pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Description:

Due to the massive influx of new groups, I need to upgrade our main database machine. The site will be down for about two hours. I apologize for the short notice, but with the surprise nature of Yahoo shutting Groups, I had no advanced warning.

This downtime starts at 1:00AM UTC Tuesday.

Mail will be queued during the downtime and will be sent when we are back on-line.


moderated Re: Is a searchable directory being considered?

Duane
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:24 PM, Mark Baumann wrote:
Duane, what am I missing
This would be better continued on GMF.  Think Database.

Duane


moderated Re: Is a searchable directory being considered?

Mark Baumann
 

Duane, what am I missing, I don't see a search button on the Directory page of a particular Group. Is there a way Group subscribers can search for other subscribers by country, area of practice, etc?

Mark


moderated Re: re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

 

Some posters in this thread are missing what this is all about. Inviting 10 -40 people at a time has nothing to do with it. Adding and email subscribe address has nothing to do with it. I think, billsf9c, that you are new to groups.io. If you have any questions about what I'm requesting, feel free to reply to me privately and I will explain it. I think you don't understand the concept here.

I won't respond further here because (a) I think the request is clear to everyone else and (b) Mark has said he needs some space on feature requests.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

billsf9c
 

For US who may invit 10 - 40 folks enmass we NEED it. Other folks with 1 or 2 pals can offer the email subscribe addy or url.

BillSF9c


Yes, and as you said, the option could be disabled anyway. I have to agree, I would really like that as well.
Thanks.
From Michael.


From: main@beta.groups.io on behalf of J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:55
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members" #request
 
In this particular group, yes.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 06:32 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I requested this in the distant past but it is more relevant today: In my block/neighborhood group, I want people to be allowed to invite other neighbors to the group. The only way I can do that now is the cumbersome method of making everyone a moderator with only one permission. But people are now asking me, "Why am I a moderator?" etc, and I also don't want everyone to be privy to the activity logs and other data.

Bottom line, it would be extremely convenient to have a group setting "Who can invite other members" with choices "moderators" or "subscribers". 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

The saying "be careful of what you ask for" comes to mind.

Would you really want "all" subscribers to be able to invite others to the group?

--
Gerald


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Is a searchable directory being considered?

Duane
 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:12 AM, Mark Baumann wrote:
Is a searchable directory something that is being considered by Groups.io management?
It already exists, but maybe not in the form you're looking for, for each group.  There is no site wide search, and hopefully never will be.

Duane


moderated Is a searchable directory being considered?

Mark Baumann
 

An inexpensive searchable member directory with current Group.io communication capabilities is exactly what many organizations are looking for, and the value is significant. Is a searchable directory something that is being considered by Groups.io management?

 

I have been involved in leadership positions with 7 non-profit organizations over the last 15 years. All of those groups have been looking for this combination. Platforms that focus on member directories tend to be complex, expensive and difficult to implement. Platforms like Groups.io, and Yahoo Groups which focus primarily on email communication all seem to avoid, ignore, or misunderstand the value of a searchable and member-modifiable directory. (Many professionals don’t want to or can’t use Google Groups or Facebook.) Is there some technical reason why it is hard for Groups.io to add a searchable member directory?

 

Other posters in this and the Group Managers Forum have also identified the common value for organizations, such as being able to find specialists and other practitioners.

 

Mark Baumann


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

 

Welcome aboard!


On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:16 AM, Juulz <julesmcn@...> wrote:

Our group is one of those. I was in the process of trying to get everyone to join our Discord when I found a post about GIO and jumped on it. The ability to save our archives is priceless.

If someone would have warned me, I would have moved sooner!

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

Juulz
 

Our group is one of those. I was in the process of trying to get everyone to join our Discord when I found a post about GIO and jumped on it. The ability to save our archives is priceless.

If someone would have warned me, I would have moved sooner!


moderated Re: Is there room for another link at the bottom of messages?

Robin Siegel
 

Thank you so much! Very helpful.


Robin Siegel


moderated Re: Is there room for another link at the bottom of messages?

JenniferEverSews
 

Hi Robin, 

This is how we add that feature on my groups:
   * Left Menu, Click on Settings.  That brings you to the General Settings page.

   * Scroll down to the 6th box marked Message Formatting
   * See the 1st box is 
Message Footer.  Type the communication here.  It will conveniently appear at the end of each emailed Message & Digest.
   * One last step.  Be sure to scroll down to the bottom of page.  Save your work by clicking the box Update Group.

 
Emojis & Hotlinks can also be used in the footer.  When someone clicks on that line, instantly a tab opens to that page on GIO website - files, messages, databases, photos, etc.     Here's how:  Type the footer out in an email draft.  Add the hotlink & emojis.  Copy the email text.  Paste it into the message footer box.  Below are two examples of the type of footers we use - one is dramatic, one is not. 

Hope this helps!  
Jennifer 

Example 1.  
Click to view photos on group site:  https://groups.io/g/GROUP-NAME/photos 

Example 2.  
[ The emojis may not show on this beta message board. So you know, this footer has attention getting emojis on either side of the type.]

 !! NOTE !! Click an INSTANT LINK  below to go directly to our Group Website
 📸 PHOTOS  Link:  https://groups.io/g/GROUP-NAME/photos 👀 
📖 MESSAGES  Link:  https://groups.io/g/GROUP-NAME/messages  📝
 

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