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moderated Re: log the confirmation email in the member's "email delivery history"

Duane
 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 04:28 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
If this email is not being recorded in the email delivery history, I think it should be.
Of which group?  I have people that join 2 or 3 of my groups at the same time, but they show as NC in all of them until they confirm.  (I only resend confirmation from one group when they join more than one.)  They could also be joining other groups at the same time, so those would also show NC.  I don't really care if I have a record since they won't be part of the site (and group) until they confirm.

Duane


moderated Re: re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

 

This is unclear on the concept. Plus, I’m not talking about how it’s implemented, time-honored or otherwise. I just want the setting. No, I can’t email it to them if I don’t know who they are. I’m talking about allowing non-mod members to invite other people to a restricted group. I am specifically trying to avoid the current scenario, where either (a) I as moderator have to send invites to everyone people want to invite, causing them to have to go through me, or (b) I have to make everyone a moderator do that they can do it themselves.


On Oct 19, 2019, at 2:59 PM, billsf9c via Groups.Io <OOWONBS@...> wrote:

The time honored way is to add footer with the email address and join URL, and say, Invite a friend. YOU can email this to them. If you are going to invite them, you know their email or text # and can pass it along. So, you and they already have a way to invite them. As a mod you really are doing almost that same thing.

For this, IO should make an extra real-estate using block for a member to put their pal's address into? I can't quite see it...

BillSF9c

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moderated Re: re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

billsf9c
 

The time honored way is to add footer with the email address and join URL, and say, Invite a friend. YOU can email this to them. If you are going to invite them, you know their email or text # and can pass it along. So, you and they already have a way to invite them. As a mod you really are doing almost that same thing.

For this, IO should make an extra real-estate using block for a member to put their pal's address into? I can't quite see it...

BillSF9c


moderated Chat

billsf9c
 

1) Ability to turn on or off a tone of some short, as AOL IM had when a Chat msg comes in.

Some chats are BUZY and some are s l o w.

2)  Some many topics are "local."
Where my chat moniker comes up, an option to add a state... or Ford or Chevy or Camaro or Mustang... etc  can que folks in a bit as there are often multiple conversation-threads ocurring simoultaneously.

Just a way to add 1 or 2 words that occur beside my chat moniker, that I add each time when I enter a chat. What fits for 1 chat might not be a fit for another chat.

BillSF9c is actually a name, location, and USDA Growing Zone, twist.


moderated Re: re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

Michael Chopra
 

Yes, and as you said, the option could be disabled anyway. I have to agree, I would really like that as well.
Thanks.
From Michael.


From: main@beta.groups.io on behalf of J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:55
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members" #request
 
In this particular group, yes.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 06:32 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I requested this in the distant past but it is more relevant today: In my block/neighborhood group, I want people to be allowed to invite other neighbors to the group. The only way I can do that now is the cumbersome method of making everyone a moderator with only one permission. But people are now asking me, "Why am I a moderator?" etc, and I also don't want everyone to be privy to the activity logs and other data.

Bottom line, it would be extremely convenient to have a group setting "Who can invite other members" with choices "moderators" or "subscribers". 
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The saying "be careful of what you ask for" comes to mind.

Would you really want "all" subscribers to be able to invite others to the group?

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Gerald


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moderated Re: re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

 

In this particular group, yes.


On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 06:32 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I requested this in the distant past but it is more relevant today: In my block/neighborhood group, I want people to be allowed to invite other neighbors to the group. The only way I can do that now is the cumbersome method of making everyone a moderator with only one permission. But people are now asking me, "Why am I a moderator?" etc, and I also don't want everyone to be privy to the activity logs and other data.

Bottom line, it would be extremely convenient to have a group setting "Who can invite other members" with choices "moderators" or "subscribers". 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

The saying "be careful of what you ask for" comes to mind.

Would you really want "all" subscribers to be able to invite others to the group?

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Gerald


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 06:32 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I requested this in the distant past but it is more relevant today: In my block/neighborhood group, I want people to be allowed to invite other neighbors to the group. The only way I can do that now is the cumbersome method of making everyone a moderator with only one permission. But people are now asking me, "Why am I a moderator?" etc, and I also don't want everyone to be privy to the activity logs and other data.

Bottom line, it would be extremely convenient to have a group setting "Who can invite other members" with choices "moderators" or "subscribers". 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

The saying "be careful of what you ask for" comes to mind.

Would you really want "all" subscribers to be able to invite others to the group?

--
Gerald


moderated re-requesting group setting: "who can invite members"

 

I requested this in the distant past but it is more relevant today: In my block/neighborhood group, I want people to be allowed to invite other neighbors to the group. The only way I can do that now is the cumbersome method of making everyone a moderator with only one permission. But people are now asking me, "Why am I a moderator?" etc, and I also don't want everyone to be privy to the activity logs and other data.

Bottom line, it would be extremely convenient to have a group setting "Who can invite other members" with choices "moderators" or "subscribers". 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated log the confirmation email in the member's "email delivery history"

 

This is either a bug report or feature request, not sure which: I have a non-premium group for my block, to which members of the old block yahoo group are suddenly flocking to over the last couple of days. Since it's non-premium (unlike my cats group), I can't automatically confirm members by approving them. And I notice that the confirmation email, even when resent, is not being recorded or included in the email delivery history. For one particular member, the last email recorded there is the group guidelines, even though I resent the confirmation email twice after approving her membership.

If this email is not being recorded in the email delivery history, I think it should be. If it is now supposedly being recorded there, then there may be a bug. If so, I can send you (Mark) the details offlist.

Thanks.
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moderated Re: GIO in the long term

Drew
 

FYI- Since Oct 16th when the Yahoo shutdown news hit there have been approx 1,700 new Groups.io groups created; over 200 today, so far...

Drew

On 10/18/19 13:35, ladykrolocksrose wrote:
umm yahoo's been headed this direction for a while, it was just a matter of when.....  thankfully the really good groups i was in on yahoo have, for the most part, left yahoo already and come here or google groups.
but sadly, yes, there are still people that don't believe it....
Cheryl
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 9:35 AM Bärbel Stephenson <Lismibaebi@... <mailto:Lismibaebi@...>> wrote:
I can assure you that many involved in yahoo groups for many years
do not believe the news yet and are confident that yahoo will not do
what they said they will...
And I actually got told off in a group yesterday for spreading
untruths...
Barbara
/-------Original Message-------/
/*From:*/ J_Catlady <mailto:@J_Catlady>
/*Date:*/ 10/17/2019 16:48:03
/*To:*/ main@beta.groups.io <mailto:main@beta.groups.io>
/*Subject:*/ Re: [beta] GIO in the long term
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Victoria wrote:
/I really do worry about Mark´s health./
He seriously needs to charge extra for the spate of rushed
transfers; I wasn't kidding about that. He could use the money to
hire some drones to do the transfers. (And the people doing the late
transfers should be charged a penalty anyway. :)
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J
/Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy
ones./
/My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human
together. - Desmond Tutu/


moderated Re: Partial attachments outage

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 8:21 AM Pablo Sanchez <pablo@...> wrote:

By any chance would the above fixed caused the regular 24h Digest to not be published?

One of my groups did not send its Digest early this morning. 


Different issue. Late last night, while the digests were running, due to a separate issue, the database ran out of connections, causing intermittent errors for about half an hour until I was able to fix it.

The last few days have been challenging keeping the site up and responsive. Some time in the next week I'm going to have to upgrade the database machine, which will require about an hour of downtime. I'll post a notice a few days in advance.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Partial attachments outage

Pablo Sanchez
 

Hey Mark,

By any chance would the above fixed caused the regular 24h Digest to not be published?

One of my groups did not send its Digest early this morning. 

I had to email to it an additional number to trigger the 12 messages threshold.  I checked a handful of my users and none received the Digest until I did my little hack.

Thx!
-pablo


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Various software changes and additional machines to deal with the extreme massive influx of new groups.
  • NEW: For premium/enterprise groups on annual billing, we now send out a courtesy reminder two weeks before billing them.
  • API: Added signature to member_info object.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Would love to have the ability to put albums within albums

Ginny T.
 

I would like to see this, too
Ginny
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moderated Re: option to auto-reset inactive members to NuM after specified time interval #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Oct 18, 2019, at 3:05 PM, J_Catlady <@J_Catlady> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:01 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Only if they go to the website and check.
Of course. That's the only way they can ever know their status, and basically everything else about their subscription/membership. Not sure what your point is.
Just accuracy


moderated Re: option to auto-reset inactive members to NuM after specified time interval #suggestion

 

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:01 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Only if they go to the website and check.
Of course. That's the only way they can ever know their status, and basically everything else about their subscription/membership. Not sure what your point is.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: option to auto-reset inactive members to NuM after specified time interval #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Oct 13, 2019, at 3:12 PM, J_Catlady <@J_Catlady> wrote:
And members always know their posting status in a group,
Not true.
so no, they would know that they've been reset because they would be able to see NuM for that group on their groups list.
Only if they go to the website and check.
I think there is some miscommunication here?
Yes.


moderated Re: GIO in the long term

ladykrolocksrose
 

umm yahoo's been headed this direction for a while, it was just a matter of when.....  thankfully the really good groups i was in on yahoo have, for the most part, left yahoo already and come here or google groups.  but sadly, yes, there are still people that don't believe it....

Cheryl

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 9:35 AM Bärbel Stephenson <Lismibaebi@...> wrote:
I can assure you that many involved in yahoo groups for many years do not believe the news yet and are confident that yahoo will not do what they said they will...
And I actually got told off in a group yesterday for spreading untruths...
 
Barbara 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: J_Catlady
Date: 10/17/2019 16:48:03
Subject: Re: [beta] GIO in the long term
 
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Victoria wrote:
I really do worry about Mark´s health.
He seriously needs to charge extra for the spate of rushed transfers; I wasn't kidding about that. He could use the money to hire some drones to do the transfers. (And the people doing the late transfers should be charged a penalty anyway. :)
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

 


moderated Re: Partial attachments outage

 

This has now been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mark Fletcher via Groups.Io <markf=corp.groups.io@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,

For about two hours this morning, we were storing message attachments in the wrong place. This means for messages sent in the last two hours, the attachments won't currently appear. I've fixed the configuration issue and now I need to go through and move the attachments back to the right place. I expect this to be completed within the next two hours. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Partial attachments outage

 

Hi All,

For about two hours this morning, we were storing message attachments in the wrong place. This means for messages sent in the last two hours, the attachments won't currently appear. I've fixed the configuration issue and now I need to go through and move the attachments back to the right place. I expect this to be completed within the next two hours. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thanks,
Mark