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moderated Re: California Utilities' Planned Power Shutoffs today through Saturday to affect 6 to 8 hundred thousand people

 

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:05 PM Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:

I know where you reside but not where your servers are.
Might they be affected by  the Planned Shutoffs which  can last up to 5 days?
Our home has Battery Backup Grid tie solar so hopefully we will generate enough  for basics.

Good question. The machines are in a datacenter in Fremont, Ca. Looking at the PG&E outage maps, it seems that parts of Fremont are scheduled to lose power. I don't know if that includes the datacenter. I would hope that we would have received notice if that was the case. In any event, I have a support ticket open to see if I can get verification that the datacenter will continue to have power. If I hear of any interruptions, I will let you know. Things seem to be quite fluid at the moment unfortunately.

Thanks,
Mark 

moderated California Utilities' Planned Power Shutoffs today through Saturday to affect 6 to 8 hundred thousand people

Bob Bellizzi
 

Mark,
I know where you reside but not where your servers are.
Might they be affected by  the Planned Shutoffs which  can last up to 5 days?
Our home has Battery Backup Grid tie solar so hopefully we will generate enough  for basics.

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Bob Bellizzi

moderated Re: Email list

 

We don't support subscribing one list to another and cannot guarantee that it would ever work.

Mark

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 11:56 PM Technotronic Dimensions <steve@...> wrote:
Ok well YAHOO decided to remove the integration email from the member list, so no more posts are coming in. Turns out the
integration email address is too long I believe.

As a solution would creating a subgroup serve as an integration where the email to post to that should be short enough to work,
then can I add the post-to address of the main group as a subscriber so it works?

moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Marina
 

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 06:18 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

- NEW: Added subject checks for 'ris:' and 'r: ' which can indicate a message
is a reply.
Thank you for helping our non English-language group, Mark.
Have a nice week,
Marina

moderated Re: Email list

Technotronic Dimensions
 

Ok well YAHOO decided to remove the integration email from the member list, so no more posts are coming in. Turns out the
integration email address is too long I believe.

As a solution would creating a subgroup serve as an integration where the email to post to that should be short enough to work,
then can I add the post-to address of the main group as a subscriber so it works?

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

 

Mark,

J wrote:

I think they absolutely have to be optional for moderators.
I can almost see uses for moderators being able to upload files (or to take some other "notified" actions) without creating a notification entry. Mods / owners are particularly likely to undertake setup and organization tasks that might otherwise create a lot of nuisance notification items.

I would not want members to be able to do so.

If this is implemented I think it should not be piggy-backed on the existing checkbox, if that one remains, but should be a separate one with a clear name and description. For example:

|_| Do Not Notify

Checking this box prevents the generation of web or email notification
to group members for this upload.

Shal

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

 

Mark,

In the new system, should these checkboxes exist?
That depends.

That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting
the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group?
No.

Let me unpack those two answers:

The checkbox currently says "Notify Members" members, but what it really means is "Message the group" - it creates a message that posts to the group's Messages/Topics and is sent to members per their Subscription Email options.

The new notices are different beasts. They don't become part of the group's Messages/Topics and are sent to members (or not) per the member's subscription Notifications options. Unlike messages, which ordinary members likely receive by email, I expect that only a few advanced members will enable email notifications, most will stick with the default "Web/App only.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/22228

So I would say if the checkbox remains then it continues to do what it does now, and checked or not should not affect the generation of an item in the notification system.

My inclination would be to remove the checkbox and thereby remove the "message the group" function they currently perform.

Shal

moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Glenn Glazer
 

On 10/4/2019 21:18, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: More work on the upcoming notifications system.
  • INTERNAL: Much work to revamp the activity log system to support webhook API functionality.
  • BUGFIX: The /getmembers API endpoint would return all members, including banned and pending members, if you didn't specify a type, instead of only returning normal members, which it should do.
  • NEW: Added subject checks for 'ris:' and 'r: ' which can indicate a message is a reply.
  • CHANGE: Changed the file upload notification so that only one notification is generated regardless of the number of files/directories that are uploaded.

Thank you, this is a big improvement!

Best,

Glenn

  • API: Added /getphoto endpoint.
  • API: Added display_name, user_name, profile_photo_url, profile_privacy, email fields to the photo object.
  • API: Added /reportcontent endpoint.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark



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moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: More work on the upcoming notifications system.
  • INTERNAL: Much work to revamp the activity log system to support webhook API functionality.
  • BUGFIX: The /getmembers API endpoint would return all members, including banned and pending members, if you didn't specify a type, instead of only returning normal members, which it should do.
  • NEW: Added subject checks for 'ris:' and 'r: ' which can indicate a message is a reply.
  • CHANGE: Changed the file upload notification so that only one notification is generated regardless of the number of files/directories that are uploaded.
  • API: Added /getphoto endpoint.
  • API: Added display_name, user_name, profile_photo_url, profile_privacy, email fields to the photo object.
  • API: Added /reportcontent endpoint.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:21 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I believe they should exist (for all items) if turning them off isn't going to be a group setting, with a default of off.  I'd also like to see it set so that someone can't send multiple notifications (of the same type?) within a short time if they can't be turned off.  (A recent reason for this is the Upload Directory where a notification is sent for each file uploaded.  In a test, that resulted in over 100 notifications!)

I've just changed the file upload/modified notification so that it should only send out one notification regardless of the number of files that are uploaded.

Cheers,
Mark 

moderated Re: Basic message filtering #suggestion

AG1P Ron
 

We’ve been doing that but certain companies just have others or their followers join and once they clear moderation, post. With 2,000 members it is difficult to control without impacting normal information sharing.  It’s been like playing the Whack-A-Mole game seen in airports - knock one mole down and another pops up somewhere else.

Ron

 

From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Jones via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 8:36 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Basic message filtering #suggestion

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 04:33 PM, AG1P Ron wrote:

We're trying to prevent commercial advertising on our non-profit reflector.

I have to ask just how is commercial advertising turning up? Is it "rogue" members doing it? If so just put them on moderation, permanently if necessary.

Chris

moderated Re: Basic message filtering #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 04:33 PM, AG1P Ron wrote:
We're trying to prevent commercial advertising on our non-profit reflector.
I have to ask just how is commercial advertising turning up? Is it "rogue" members doing it? If so just put them on moderation, permanently if necessary.

Chris

moderated Re: Basic message filtering #suggestion

AG1P Ron
 

Just need it for the subject line. We're trying to prevent commercial advertising on our non-profit reflector.

Regards
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of ro-esp
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 2:45 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Basic message filtering #suggestion

That could become a "unique sellingpoint" of io-groups. Would it be for the subject only or include the "body" of the message?

groetjes, Ronaldo

moderated Re: Basic message filtering #suggestion

ro-esp
 

That could become a "unique sellingpoint" of io-groups. Would it be for the subject only or include the "body" of the message?

groetjes, Ronaldo

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Anita L
 

I think the checkbox is a good idea. Then you can check the box or not.
 
What I would like is for you to have a checkbox when you add a photo to notify the group.
 
In Facebook under notifications you can have it posted or not.  You can also list someones name if you don't want them to see it. You can make it public or private also.
 
Anita

moderated Re: Basic message filtering #suggestion

AG1P Ron
 

We would also like key word filtering to automatically put messages into moderation before they go out to the members. There are certain topics we wish to block and now the first message always has to go out before we can block any others with te same subject.

Thanks
Ron

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Sharon Villines
 

Should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?
Certainly, the moderators should have it. Notifications confuse many people on lists. Unless there are routine notifications that everyone understands, I explain the notifications that will be coming. If I'm loading 4-5 files, I don't want a notification for each one of them. I would send my own notification explaining them.

If it is the file for the monthly meeting of elephants, then everyone understands the notice.

Sharonn

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

JenniferEverSews
 

To  Mark, 
       re: In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? .......  should it be extended to all new notifications?
Yes, Yes!  Please keep checkboxes for optional notifications.  At least for mods & owners.
       At times we change a file or other because of a typo or other small tweak.  It may take a few tries to get it right.  Group members would not appreciate the emails they would receive as a result of that. 

 ... Facebook?   Groups.io is better, that is why my groups are here.

I appreciate you provide a place like this group to give feedback.  Thank you for the effort & care you put into this website.
Jennifer 
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Mark wrote:
Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.
In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?
I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Thomas McMahan
 



On Oct 1, 2019, at 12:21, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:I think they should still exist.  

Hi All,

As I continue to work through notifications, questions arise.

Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.

In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?

I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.


Thanks,
Mark

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Nancy Funk
 

I like having the optional checkboxes, especially for calendar events. Our group tends to put placeholder events on the calendar without much info and then later updates the events and send them out to the group at that time.