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Re: Email list
Ok well YAHOO decided to remove the integration email from the member list, so no more posts are coming in. Turns out the
integration email address is too long I believe. As a solution would creating a subgroup serve as an integration where the email to post to that should be short enough to work, then can I add the post-to address of the main group as a subscriber so it works?
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
Mark,
J wrote: I think they absolutely have to be optional for moderators.I can almost see uses for moderators being able to upload files (or to take some other "notified" actions) without creating a notification entry. Mods / owners are particularly likely to undertake setup and organization tasks that might otherwise create a lot of nuisance notification items. I would not want members to be able to do so. If this is implemented I think it should not be piggy-backed on the existing checkbox, if that one remains, but should be a separate one with a clear name and description. For example: |_| Do Not Notify Checking this box prevents the generation of web or email notification to group members for this upload. Shal
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
Mark,
In the new system, should these checkboxes exist?That depends. That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/startingNo. Let me unpack those two answers: The checkbox currently says "Notify Members" members, but what it really means is "Message the group" - it creates a message that posts to the group's Messages/Topics and is sent to members per their Subscription Email options. The new notices are different beasts. They don't become part of the group's Messages/Topics and are sent to members (or not) per the member's subscription Notifications options. Unlike messages, which ordinary members likely receive by email, I expect that only a few advanced members will enable email notifications, most will stick with the default "Web/App only. https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/22228 So I would say if the checkbox remains then it continues to do what it does now, and checked or not should not affect the generation of an item in the notification system. My inclination would be to remove the checkbox and thereby remove the "message the group" function they currently perform. Shal
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
Glenn Glazer
On 10/4/2019 21:18, Mark Fletcher
wrote:
Thank you, this is a big improvement! Best, Glenn
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We must work to make the Democratic Party the Marketplace of Ideas not the Marketplace of Favors.
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Site updates
#changelog
Changes to the site this week:
Have a good weekend everyone. Mark
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:21 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: I believe they should exist (for all items) if turning them off isn't going to be a group setting, with a default of off. I'd also like to see it set so that someone can't send multiple notifications (of the same type?) within a short time if they can't be turned off. (A recent reason for this is the Upload Directory where a notification is sent for each file uploaded. In a test, that resulted in over 100 notifications!) I've just changed the file upload/modified notification so that it should only send out one notification regardless of the number of files that are uploaded. Cheers, Mark
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Re: Basic message filtering
#suggestion
AG1P Ron
We’ve been doing that but certain companies just have others or their followers join and once they clear moderation, post. With 2,000 members it is difficult to control without impacting normal information sharing. It’s been like playing the Whack-A-Mole game seen in airports - knock one mole down and another pops up somewhere else. Ron
From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Jones via Groups.Io
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 04:33 PM, AG1P Ron wrote: We're trying to prevent commercial advertising on our non-profit reflector. I have to ask just how is commercial advertising turning up? Is it "rogue" members doing it? If so just put them on moderation, permanently if necessary.
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Re: Basic message filtering
#suggestion
Chris Jones
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 04:33 PM, AG1P Ron wrote:
We're trying to prevent commercial advertising on our non-profit reflector.I have to ask just how is commercial advertising turning up? Is it "rogue" members doing it? If so just put them on moderation, permanently if necessary. Chris
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Re: Basic message filtering
#suggestion
AG1P Ron
Just need it for the subject line. We're trying to prevent commercial advertising on our non-profit reflector.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Regards Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of ro-esp Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 2:45 AM To: main@beta.groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] Basic message filtering #suggestion That could become a "unique sellingpoint" of io-groups. Would it be for the subject only or include the "body" of the message? groetjes, Ronaldo
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Re: Basic message filtering
#suggestion
ro-esp
That could become a "unique sellingpoint" of io-groups. Would it be for the subject only or include the "body" of the message?
groetjes, Ronaldo
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
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Re: Basic message filtering
#suggestion
AG1P Ron
We would also like key word filtering to automatically put messages into moderation before they go out to the members. There are certain topics we wish to block and now the first message always has to go out before we can block any others with te same subject.
Thanks Ron
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
Sharon Villines
Certainly, the moderators should have it. Notifications confuse many people on lists. Unless there are routine notifications that everyone understands, I explain the notifications that will be coming. If I'm loading 4-5 files, I don't want a notification for each one of them. I would send my own notification explaining them.Should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications? If it is the file for the monthly meeting of elephants, then everyone understands the notice. Sharonn
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
JenniferEverSews
To Mark,
re: In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? ....... should it be extended to all new notifications? Yes, Yes! Please keep checkboxes for optional notifications. At least for mods & owners. At times we change a file or other because of a typo or other small tweak. It may take a few tries to get it right. Group members would not appreciate the emails they would receive as a result of that. ... Facebook? Groups.io is better, that is why my groups are here. I appreciate you provide a place like this group to give feedback. Thank you for the effort & care you put into this website. Jennifer ============ Mark wrote:
Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc. In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?
I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
Thomas McMahan
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
I like having the optional checkboxes, especially for calendar events. Our group tends to put placeholder events on the calendar without much info and then later updates the events and send them out to the group at that time.
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
Glenn Glazer
I am generally in favor of making as many things as possible optional and up to groups to decide for themselves. Best, Glenn
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 10:21 Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote: In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?Absolutely. Yes. Yes, and Yes. I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.All notifications should be controllable, both to send and receive. As to group notifications triggered by a member's action, these should also be able to be moderated; and which Moderators can moderate which notifications should be separate Moderator Permissions.
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
Donald Hellen
Duane . . .
On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:21:26 -0700, "Duane" <txpigeon@gmail.com> wrote: I believe they should exist (for all items) if turning them off isn't going to be a group setting, with a default of off. I'd also like to see it set so that someone can't send multiple notifications (of the same type?) within a short time if they can't be turned off.I like this idea, not sending multiple notifications within a short period of time. We won't all agree on the time frame, but if the check box only appears after that time x minutes frame is over, we can simply uncheck it again and we'll be good for another x minutes. This might be useful when building a set of files, etc., in the files section after the group is up and running. Chances are by the time the members see the first notice, the files will already all be uploaded in many cases. And, we would have the option of unchecking the notification box, uploading the files, then making a personal announcement about them only after we're finished. Another alternative to this might be something in our personal settings for the group. We could toggle it off to do multiple uploads then toggle it back on either for the last one we do or leave it off and just manually notify the members of uploads. Donald ---------------------------------------------------- Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion group on Groups.io: https://groups.io/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly) **also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health: https://groups.io/g/CatVet (just launched)
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Re: Should notifications be optional?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 01:52 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
I realize that one might need options for receiving notifications as well as for initiating themI just assumed that was going to be the case, and I think Mark said so explicitly at one point. I'd have to find the thread. Options to receive or not was part of the whole point.... -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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