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moderated Re: Basic message filtering #suggestion

AG1P Ron
 

We would also like key word filtering to automatically put messages into moderation before they go out to the members. There are certain topics we wish to block and now the first message always has to go out before we can block any others with te same subject.

Thanks
Ron

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Sharon Villines
 

Should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?
Certainly, the moderators should have it. Notifications confuse many people on lists. Unless there are routine notifications that everyone understands, I explain the notifications that will be coming. If I'm loading 4-5 files, I don't want a notification for each one of them. I would send my own notification explaining them.

If it is the file for the monthly meeting of elephants, then everyone understands the notice.

Sharonn

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

JenniferEverSews
 

To  Mark, 
       re: In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? .......  should it be extended to all new notifications?
Yes, Yes!  Please keep checkboxes for optional notifications.  At least for mods & owners.
       At times we change a file or other because of a typo or other small tweak.  It may take a few tries to get it right.  Group members would not appreciate the emails they would receive as a result of that. 

 ... Facebook?   Groups.io is better, that is why my groups are here.

I appreciate you provide a place like this group to give feedback.  Thank you for the effort & care you put into this website.
Jennifer 
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Mark wrote:
Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.
In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?
I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Thomas McMahan
 



On Oct 1, 2019, at 12:21, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:I think they should still exist.  

Hi All,

As I continue to work through notifications, questions arise.

Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.

In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?

I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.


Thanks,
Mark

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Nancy Funk
 

I like having the optional checkboxes, especially for calendar events. Our group tends to put placeholder events on the calendar without much info and then later updates the events and send them out to the group at that time. 

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Glenn Glazer
 

I am generally in favor of making as many things as possible optional and up to groups to decide for themselves. 

Best,

Glenn 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 10:21 Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,

As I continue to work through notifications, questions arise.

Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.

In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?

I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.


Thanks,
Mark

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Michael Pavan
 

On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?
Absolutely. Yes. Yes, and Yes.

I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.
All notifications should be controllable, both to send and receive.

As to group notifications triggered by a member's action, these should also be able to be moderated; and which Moderators can moderate which notifications should be separate Moderator Permissions.

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Donald Hellen
 

Duane . . .

On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:21:26 -0700, "Duane" <txpigeon@...>
wrote:

I believe they should exist (for all items) if turning them off isn't going to be a group setting, with a default of off. I'd also like to see it set so that someone can't send multiple notifications (of the same type?) within a short time if they can't be turned off.
I like this idea, not sending multiple notifications within a short
period of time. We won't all agree on the time frame, but if the check
box only appears after that time x minutes frame is over, we can
simply uncheck it again and we'll be good for another x minutes. This
might be useful when building a set of files, etc., in the files
section after the group is up and running.

Chances are by the time the members see the first notice, the files
will already all be uploaded in many cases. And, we would have the
option of unchecking the notification box, uploading the files, then
making a personal announcement about them only after we're finished.

Another alternative to this might be something in our personal
settings for the group. We could toggle it off to do multiple uploads
then toggle it back on either for the last one we do or leave it off
and just manually notify the members of uploads.

Donald




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moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 01:52 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
I realize that one might need options for receiving notifications as well as for initiating them
I just assumed that was going to be the case, and I think Mark said so explicitly at one point. I'd have to find the thread. Options to receive or not was part of the whole point....
 
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moderated Email list

Technotronic Dimensions
 

Trying to get an integration going from one of the YAHOO groups just for the email list aspect. I dded the integration
email addres to the group member list, so the emails coming in to the groups.io system come in ok from the other
group, but for purposes of allowing the people on the groups.io system to reply and have it post, whats the best way?

I am a moderator of the YAHOO group so its easy to add in new emails to the system. I also can maybe use my email address
I am subscribed with as a way to make a filter or a forward, but not sure about the best way to do it.

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 05:50 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 03:21 PM, Duane wrote:
(A recent reason for this is the Upload Directory where a notification is sent for each file uploaded.  In a test, that resulted in over 100 notifications!)

Yes, and it also filled up almost 10 pages of notification messages online. Bad enough having to delete them from email accounts and online I would have to delete them one by one.

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Now that I think about this, I realize that one might need options for receiving notifications as well as for initiating them.
 
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moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 03:21 PM, Duane wrote:
(A recent reason for this is the Upload Directory where a notification is sent for each file uploaded.  In a test, that resulted in over 100 notifications!)

Yes, and it also filled up almost 10 pages of notification messages online. Bad enough having to delete them from email accounts and online I would have to delete them one by one.

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moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Duane
 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 12:21 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.
 
In the new system, should these checkboxes exist?
I believe they should exist (for all items) if turning them off isn't going to be a group setting, with a default of off.  I'd also like to see it set so that someone can't send multiple notifications (of the same type?) within a short time if they can't be turned off.  (A recent reason for this is the Upload Directory where a notification is sent for each file uploaded.  In a test, that resulted in over 100 notifications!)

Thanks,
Duane

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

Steph Mathews
 

I think that you should have the check boxes.

 

Have a blessed day!  Steph

 

From: Mark Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 12:21 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Should notifications be optional?

 

Hi All,

 

As I continue to work through notifications, questions arise.

 

Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.

 

In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?

 

I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.

 

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

moderated Re: Should notifications be optional?

 

Mark,

I think they absolutely have to be optional for moderators. Whether they're optional for non-mods could possibly be a group setting.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,

As I continue to work through notifications, questions arise.

Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.

In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?

I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.


Thanks,
Mark


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moderated Should notifications be optional?

 

Hi All,

As I continue to work through notifications, questions arise.

Right now, some existing notifications are optional. When adding a file, for example, you have a checkbox to notify the group. Same with creating a calendar event, a new chat, etc.

In the new system, should these checkboxes exist? That is, should the person adding the file/creating the event/starting the chat/etc continue to have the option to not notify the group? And if they should continue to have that option, should it be extended to all new notifications?

I don't believe that Facebook lets you opt-out of sending notifications; at least I don't recall seeing such an option when posting photos/etc.


Thanks,
Mark

moderated Feature idea - manage Files and Wiki via git

John Mertic
 

You can manage the wiki on GitHub as a normal git repo, and it would be interesting to have for the files section managed through git as well. This would open all sort of very easy and interesting integrations :-).

Thank you,

John Mertic
Director of Program Management - Linux Foundation
ASWF, ODPi, and Open Mainframe Project
Schedule time with me at https://calendly.com/jmertic

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moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week (resend with proper formatting):

  • NEW: Upload Folder button in the Files area to upload a directory of files.
  • API: Added /newmembernotice, /updatemembernotice, /deletemembernotice, and /getmembernotices endpoints.
  • NEW: Checkbox to notify the group when you modify a file.
  • CHANGE: Rate limit how often someone can report a message, to make abuse more difficult.
  • CHANGE: Changed how we present start/end dates/times in calendar invite emails, to match how we present them when clicking Download Event. Even though both should be equivalent, apparently Outlook likes the Download Event version better.
  • API: Added /searchfiles endpoint.
  • BUGFIX: We now consider email addresses with parentheses as invalid.
  • API: Added /searchphotos endpoint.
  • API: Added /getdirectory and /getfile endpoints.
  • API: Changed snippet field to summary in the search_result object for naming consistency.
  • INTERNAL: Upgraded Go compiler to 1.13.1
  • API: Added /testnotification endpoint.
  • API: Handle case where group is not in the same domain as the API request. Caused incorrect direct add emails.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark

moderated Re: #wishlist Ability to Hide Topics/Posts #suggestion

 

Bruce,

So who gets to see the hidden material? ... but do we include the
subscriber who posted it, too? Is that person still allowed to delete
or edit the message?
My initial concept was "no", matching Bryce's use case.

On the other hand I generally support the notion that a member should have the right to remove their own material. I'm willing to consider modifying my stance to say that a message, while hidden, is effectively removed (to other group members it would seem as if someone deleted the topic or message), and group owners always have the right to remove content from their group. So it may be acceptable for an owner to "lock down" a message in this manner.

But it seems to me that he at least needs to receive some kind of
notification that his post has been hidden. Otherwise we're going to
get a lot of inquiries to support/GMF to the effect that people's
messages are disappearing.
Mods/owners can already delete member's content, and no notice is sent. So I don't think hiding would produce a larger support problem. Most likely the group owners themselves would be the first one's asked. I'm not sure if there are other use cases than Bryce's, but I'd almost expect hiding to be a less often used feature than deleting.

Now the question of unhiding a message might be a case requiring notice to the original poster, in case he/she wants to delete the message after all. That could be handled like an owner/mod editing a message (when they choose not to resend to the group).

In the case of hiding an entire topic, I still (or especially) say "no" to showing the hidden message(s) to their respective posters. That way I think just leads to confusion. Likewise, in this case I wouldn't send any notices when the topic is unhidden. From the members' point of view hiding is the same as deletion - until it gets unhidden anyway.

Shal

moderated Re: #wishlist Ability to Hide Topics/Posts #suggestion

Bryce Weathersby
 

I accept all of the suggestions. In retrospect, I feel it could be a single message, or ultimately the entire topic. In my situation, most of the messages within the topic would need to go on lockdown as well since people replied to the original email, leaving the problematic message in their responses as well.

I also would not want anyone other than the owners or moderators to be able to modify or delete the messages. And to be perfectly honest, since legal actions could ensue, maybe even have a capability of locking it down so NO CHANGES could be made, except by the Owner.

I am just hashing out ideas. I do feel this could be a very valuable and powerful modification.

Bryce

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:43 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Bruce,

 > Question: How does one find a hidden topic (or message) in order to
 > unhide it later?

In my concept they remain visible to mods and owners.

 > How are they flagged so those with the proper privileges to see it
 > know that other cannot (new status badge)?

Like a locked or moderated topic, I proposed an eye-slash icon (badge)
to the left of the subject text.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/22337

Like those other two, this would be an independent attribute that can be
applied alone or in conjunction with the others.

Oh, interesting. The other two only stack up in search results. E.g.:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?ev=false&q=%22Thread+view%22&ct=1
In other views locked seems to take precedence over moderated.

I would want hidden to stack next to the other icon(s) if any, it
shouldn't take precedence over either, nor should either take precedence
over hidden.

If a "Hide Message" function were (also) implemented there's a small
question of where to put the icon when looking at a topic containing
that message (as the Subject text is only shown at the top of the topic
page). I think it should still be at the top, so somewhere among the
Posting member identification on the left and the date & message number
on the right.

Shal





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