Date   

moderated Re: consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

 

J,


No, I'm suggesting something akin to "autofollow replies." It would be more automatic than having to go to any page or message and following by hand.

Hm... I was imagining someone clicking the Like button on the web interface - putting the Follow button right next to it wouldn't require you to go anywhere else.

If you're doing likes by email maybe that could count as a Follow, since it is a kind of reply. Maybe it does already if you have R with your FF. Otherwise you'd have to click Follow in the footer in addition to reply with Like.

Shal


moderated Re: consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

 

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 05:56 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
There was an earlier suggestion that the Message Selection controls be added to group message/topic pages, rather than be hidden away only on the global /topics and hashtag pages. Would that do what you want?
I recall that, of course. I got clobbered in it for responding that there are controls on the overall groups.io page. ;)
No, I'm suggesting something akin to "autofollow replies." It would be more automatic than having to go to any page or message and following by hand.
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

 

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 05:26 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
I really don't want that to override my email delivery settings. 
Fair enough. Right now there's an "autofollow replies" setting. There could be an "autofollow Likes" setting. Just a thought.
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

 

J,


What about considering a "Like" to be a follow?

There was an earlier suggestion that the Message Selection controls be added to group message/topic pages, rather than be hidden away only on the global /topics and hashtag pages. Would that do what you want?

Maybe Follow (for those who are Following Only) could appear as a star next to the Like button centered on the bar below the message. Even though the follow applies to the whole topic, and I know that the /topics page uses a button at the top for this function, I dislike forcing the user to scroll to the top or some other place to find it. I would change it there too if I could. Or maybe have it both ways.

Likewise Mute could appear as a circle-slashed speaker icon in that position, for those who are All Messages.

If that's considered too brazen, or consumes too much space for mobile, I think they should at least be added to the More menu.

I think there was a years-ago concern that exposing these controls in the group's Messages/Topics would be too confusing for web-reading members, who don't directly get to see their effect. I think that could adequately addressed with tooltip text ("Follow this topic in email") or similar means.

Shal


moderated Re: consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 08:04 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
What about considering a "Like" to be a follow?
While I might choose to "like" a post (excuse me, a message) while reading online, I really don't want that to override my email delivery settings. 

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

 

p.s. The idea is to make a "Like" an automatic follow, so that you don't have go in and follow the topic by hand, which of course can be done. 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

 

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 05:04 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I just "Liked" a post
Excuse me, a *message*. ;)
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated consider "Like" a follow #suggestion

 

I just "Liked" a post in another group but realize, since I'm "FF R" in that group, I won't get replies unless I specifically respond to it, which I don't really want to do (because I have nothing to say). What about considering a "Like" to be a follow?
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Add creatable columns to the member table

William Halte
 

The date on the Bounced Report is the Applied (joined) date not the bounced date. 

Display Name Email Delivery Applied
Is there a way to change the columns that are displayed?


moderated Re: Add creatable columns to the member table

Bob Bellizzi
 

Go to Admin/Members
Select Bouncing

This provides a complete list of bouncing members, indicating date, soft/hard type indication.
If they are not in this list and are in the members' list they are not bouncing


--

Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Add creatable columns to the member table

William Halte
 

Would also like a bounced date column. 

My group has over 1200 members whose are listed in the bounce report. Would like to know if they are a recent bounce or have they been bouncing since the group was started about 6 months ago. If the member is not currently in a bounce condition the column should be null. 

Bill Halte 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:55 PM lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
That would allow us to capture additional info for our group without having to duplicate the member database. Simple fields already creatable in the database functions like job functions, addresses, birthdays, roles.

lloyd lehrer

[mod note: removed phone number of the sender from his sig]


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

Michael Pavan
 

On Sep 10, 2019, at 4:30 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe instead of the one-of-four selector I proposed in each category it should instead be a list of three selectors:
Groups I own,
Groups I moderate, and
Groups I neither own nor moderate.
For each of these select a delivery frequency: Immediate, Daily Digest, or Off.
I want to be able NOT to have the same settings (notifications and frequency) for all the Groups I own, moderate, or belong to.
HOWEVER it would be convenient to select more than one group at a time (for those which the same settings are desired).


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

 

Lena wrote:

I'd like an email digest notification option (no more frequent than
once a day) for Photos (or for everything). Even if the member
receives individual messages, not digests.
That's a good point. Frequency is a dimension that has at least that one more possibility rather than just being an Immediate or Off toggle.

Maybe instead of the one-of-four selector I proposed in each category it should instead be a list of three selectors:
Groups I own,
Groups I moderate, and
Groups I neither own nor moderate.
For each of these select a delivery frequency: Immediate, Daily Digest, or Off.


On the subject of digests, maybe New Notifications should be added as a section at the bottom of the Daily Summary email, and the daily Digest email.

Shal


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

 

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 08:36 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:


additional notification preference categories will be Photos, Files, Wiki,
Database, etc. This is very much like Facebook, where you can go into your
notification settings page, and for each category, you can toggle 'Push',
'Email', 'SMS' as well as an overall toggle to turn on/off notifications for
the entire category.
I'd like an email digest notification option (no more frequent than once a day) for Photos (or for everything). Even if the member receives individual messages, not digests.


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

 

Mark,

You wrote:

... as well as an overall toggle to turn on/off notifications for the entire category.

I wrote:

Tags has an overall toggle which is actually three radio buttons, with Off not being one of the
choices.

That gives me an idea.
Instead of an on/off togle for the category, a compromise might be a one-of-four selector: All Groups, Groups I Own or Moderate, Groups I Own, or Off. That probably covers most use cases for people more interested in some groups than others, without needing a toggle for each subscription.

I think I'd still rather have a toggle per group in each category (or maybe that should be a toggle per category in each group), but I can see where that might get a bit cluttered.

Shal


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

 

Mark,

There will be notifications for all aspects of the site. So some
additional notification preference categories will be Photos, Files,
Wiki, Database, etc. This is very much like Facebook, where you can go
into your notification settings page, and for each category, you can
toggle 'Push', 'Email', 'SMS' as well as an overall toggle to turn
on/off notifications for the entire category.
Actually, many category seem to be set up somewhat differently. Comments, for example, has no overall toggle. Tags has an overall toggle which is actually three radio buttons, with Off not being one of the choices.

At the bottom there's a section for "How You Get Notifications", and for example within the Email "category" there is a list recapitulating of all of the "What Notifications You Receive" categories, with an on/off toggle for each. That confused me at first but as it turns out that's just the same list of controls, grouped by how instead of by what. So that's actually cool.

This approach implies to me that you envision that the setting for a given category controls notifications for that category across all of one's subscriptions.

As I mentioned before, I think that will be a problem for categories that already have their own control mechanism, such as Messages. Even for categories where notifications don't currently exist (web activities) I think I'm likely to want per-group control of whether I receive an email notification about it. Just because I'm more interested in the doings of some groups than others.

I am all for having a completely configurable notification system, but
what I think is critical is to have a sane set of defaults, so that
the majority of people never feel the need to go mucking about in it.
Maybe "Web/App and Email" for any categories that already exist, to grandfather the user's current selections, and "Web/App only" for any new ones, so as not to suddenly create unexpected emails when a new category is created.

Shal


moderated Add creatable columns to the member table

lloyd lehrer
 

That would allow us to capture additional info for our group without having to duplicate the member database. Simple fields already creatable in the database functions like job functions, addresses, birthdays, roles.

lloyd lehrer

[mod note: removed phone number of the sender from his sig]


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

Pamela Tatt
 

I am not up with all the technical stuff but having notifications for Photos and Files would be a huge help to our members.
Thanks Mark for working on this.

Regards,
Pamela


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

Michael Pavan
 

Mark,

On Sep 9, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

There will be notifications for all aspects of the site. So some additional notification preference categories will be Photos, Files, Wiki, Database, etc. This is very much like Facebook, where you can go into your notification settings page, and for each category, you can toggle 'Push', 'Email', 'SMS' as well as an overall toggle to turn on/off notifications for the entire category.
On/off for each and every notification type (including items such as "Upcoming Event" subject prefixes, 'start and/or stop times' subject suffixes, and hashtags) will make Groups.io work better for everyone by not restricting or forcing any choices.


Actually, for any Facebook users, I'd appreciate it if you checked out their notification settings, at https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=notifications, to get an idea of how they do it.
Single toggles (on/off) each for 'all Push', 'all Email', and 'all SMS' notifications are missing in Facebook, please include them in Groups.io - it would make turning off (or on) all 'Push', 'Email', and/or 'SMS' easier.


The idea is to be able to be notified about any activity in any group you're a member of. Right now, you don't know when someone creates a new wiki page, unless they tell you, for example. You should have the option of being notified of that.
Good


I am all for having a completely configurable notification system,
Great
but what I think is critical is to have a sane set of defaults, so that the majority of people never feel the need to go mucking about in it.
Please allow Owner (and Moderators with appropriate permissions) to set the 'set of defaults' for the members of all and/or each of their groups - not just for new groups and future members, BUT have a grace period (30 days?) after you institute this Notification System reform for existing groups. This will start each groups' members with the set of sane defaults Owners believe is desirable in all and/or each of their groups, and should minimize the amount of assistance their members will need to modify their personal settings.

Thanks,
Michael


moderated Re: Notifications overall: Messages

 

On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:38 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I really like this idea.

I'm still having trouble, though, seeing this plan component in the context of the overall plan.Would, for example, the other Preference categories be Photos? Files? I don't have a picture of where does the Messages preference fits into the overall thing. In any case, I love this idea of getting pinged whenever there's a new message.

There will be notifications for all aspects of the site. So some additional notification preference categories will be Photos, Files, Wiki, Database, etc. This is very much like Facebook, where you can go into your notification settings page, and for each category, you can toggle 'Push', 'Email', 'SMS' as well as an overall toggle to turn on/off notifications for the entire category.

Actually, for any Facebook users, I'd appreciate it if you checked out their notification settings, at https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=notifications, to get an idea of how they do it.

The idea is to be able to be notified about any activity in any group you're a member of. Right now, you don't know when someone creates a new wiki page, unless they tell you, for example. You should have the option of being notified of that.

I am all for having a completely configurable notification system, but what I think is critical is to have a sane set of defaults, so that the majority of people never feel the need to go mucking about in it. 

Thanks,
Mark

8641 - 8660 of 30684