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locked Re: On the subject of subjects

 

Finally getting back to this. I just pushed the following to production:

If a thread's subject has changed, and we get a reply to an already
sent out message in the thread (with the old subject), we change the
subject to the new subject when we send the message out. We store the
message as it was originally received (View Original will show the
old, now incorrect subject line).

A thread's subject can change because it was edited, or in the case of
a thread merge.

We still ignore hashtags when comparing subjects.

Thanks,
Mark

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Shal Farley <shal@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Mark,

o When a thread's subject is changed, I will re-write the Subject
lines in all the archived messages for that thread, so that if
you 'View Original' or download the archives, the new subject
appears in the message header.
I was with you up to that one. I'm not at all keen on ever editing the View Original of a message - that way lies madness and a complete inability to reconstruct things after an accident. Gotta have some terra firma or the whole house of cards could come down.

I'd rather you keep a separate "Subject" text as metadata to each message, if you need something to mess with to construct the various views of things. This also goes, BTW, for the earlier case:

o That reply should have its subject changed to the new subject
before it's sent to the group (prepended with Re:).
I had assumed you were doing that re-write on the way out, not modifying the stored original message.

-- Shal






locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

 

I also like 19 and 20, but I wonder why 19 used green when the desired colors are listed as blue, white & orange? I guess that's easy enough to change if that logo wins.

10 is still nice and clean looking, but I'd change the gray to black. I do like the simplicity of it though.

Trish


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:
Hi

Here’s what I DON’T like and why.

#9 looks like a table rather than an envelope and seems to imply business.
#11 looks like Angry Birds.
#3 and #5 - been done.
#12 - I like it but perhaps G for Google? Using G as main part of logo probably not a good thing.

Frances

> On Mar 12 15, at 11:14 AM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:
>
> Oooh, number 20!
> Has the envelope icon. Nice lettering. It does have the suggestion of the conversation bubble. Best so far, perhaps.
>
> Frances








locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Frances
 

Hi

Here’s what I DON’T like and why.

#9 looks like a table rather than an envelope and seems to imply business.
#11 looks like Angry Birds.
#3 and #5 - been done.
#12 - I like it but perhaps G for Google? Using G as main part of logo probably not a good thing.

Frances

On Mar 12 15, at 11:14 AM, Frances <travel@tansymews.ca> wrote:

Oooh, number 20!
Has the envelope icon. Nice lettering. It does have the suggestion of the conversation bubble. Best so far, perhaps.

Frances


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

 I like #12



 

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Vickie

 





 


From: monamouroui <monamouroui@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [beta] Help me pick a logo! #logo

I like #9, with maybe with a tweak. The people look disjointed. Maybe needs more symmetry. Envelope could be square.
I have other ideas.. Might try to submit my own over the weekend.
Sara
On Mar 11, 2015 4:11 PM, "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
As part of applying to Facebook so that people can log in using their
Facebook credentials, Groups.io is required to submit a logo. But we
don't have a logo, you say. True! But not for long. I have just
created a design contest on 99designs for a Groups.io logo. Designers
read the creative brief, and submit logo ideas, from which I'll select
a winner.

I could use your help. Here's the contest:

http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/create-logo-groups-io-468799/entries

I just submitted it, so there are only a few designs to review. But
over the next 4 days, a bunch should be submitted. Tell me in this
thread which ones you like or don't like. The designers can tweak the
designs as well, so suggestions for tweaks are appreciated as well.

I know creativity is subjective and everyone has different tastes. But
hopefully this will be fun.

Thanks,
Mark







locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Frances
 

Oooh, number 20!
Has the envelope icon. Nice lettering. It does have the suggestion of the conversation bubble. Best so far, perhaps.

Frances


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

monamouroui
 

I like #9, with maybe with a tweak. The people look disjointed. Maybe needs more symmetry. Envelope could be square.

I have other ideas. Might try to submit my own over the weekend.

Sara

On Mar 11, 2015 4:11 PM, "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
As part of applying to Facebook so that people can log in using their
Facebook credentials, Groups.io is required to submit a logo. But we
don't have a logo, you say. True! But not for long. I have just
created a design contest on 99designs for a Groups.io logo. Designers
read the creative brief, and submit logo ideas, from which I'll select
a winner.

I could use your help. Here's the contest:

http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/create-logo-groups-io-468799/entries

I just submitted it, so there are only a few designs to review. But
over the next 4 days, a bunch should be submitted. Tell me in this
thread which ones you like or don't like. The designers can tweak the
designs as well, so suggestions for tweaks are appreciated as well.

I know creativity is subjective and everyone has different tastes. But
hopefully this will be fun.

Thanks,
Mark





locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Frances
 

Wow! 17 of them now.

I like #14 and #1. Very different.
The envelope works in #14.

#1 is just good lettering, but clean and attractive. You wouldn’t get tired of it, but it is plain.

#15 is much better when you open it in a new tab and see it enlarged. Not sure what that says about future usage.

#18 is an interesting combination of #1 and the dynamism of #12. But the colour balance is a bit off. I think it could be better.

Frances


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

 

Frances,

I think that #12 by akagii with the large G with the arrow is dynamic.
That one is quite striking. But I worry that the initial glyph is a little too "Firefox-y". Too, it reminds me a bit of the ubiquitous "busy" spinner.

I lean towards the logos with an envelope, like 14 (or 10, 6, 11) because that says "email" to me. Maybe someone will come up with a design that suggests a synergy of email and web that I'll like better. But, other than browser logos, what image is iconic for the web? Depictions of a spider or a spider's web really does _not_ fit that bill - too strongly (and negatively) associated with the insect.

A Google image search for "web icon" gives some interesting results, and the reminder that in the early going a globe was often used, putting the emphasis more on "World Wide" and less on "Web".

-- Shal


locked Re: Editing To: Cc: in moderation queue

 

[Like]

Or, more accurately [Ok, that makes sense]

At 01:25 PM 3/11/2015, Mark Fletcher wrote:

When we have to re-write the From line because of DMARC, and the
group's reply-to is set to reply to sender, we set the reply-to to be
the sender and we add a CC line for the group. So if someone wants to
do a reply-to-all, it'll capture the group's address.


locked Re: Editing To: Cc: in moderation queue

 

[Like]

Or, more accurately [Ok, that makes sense]

At 01:25 PM 3/11/2015, Mark Fletcher wrote:

When we have to re-write the From line because of DMARC, and the
group's reply-to is set to reply to sender, we set the reply-to to be
the sender and we add a CC line for the group. So if someone wants to
do a reply-to-all, it'll capture the group's address.


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Terry S
 

I like #1 by panwawer.

Terry S
--
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do." - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1884 - 1962





On 3/11/2015 7:11 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
As part of applying to Facebook so that people can log in using their
Facebook credentials, Groups.io is required to submit a logo. But we
don't have a logo, you say. True! But not for long. I have just
created a design contest on 99designs for a Groups.io logo. Designers
read the creative brief, and submit logo ideas, from which I'll select
a winner.

I could use your help. Here's the contest:

http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/create-logo-groups-io-468799/entries

I just submitted it, so there are only a few designs to review. But
over the next 4 days, a bunch should be submitted. Tell me in this
thread which ones you like or don't like. The designers can tweak the
designs as well, so suggestions for tweaks are appreciated as well.

I know creativity is subjective and everyone has different tastes. But
hopefully this will be fun.

Thanks,
Mark




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locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Frances
 

Hi again

I think that #12 by akagii with the large G with the arrow is dynamic. Love the font too. Interesting having the .io in black, different from the rest of the logo.

Frances


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

 

I like #6 so far.  It looks like there is no #4.

JohnF



locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Judy F.
 

Mark, wouldn’t this work better, if we waited until all of the entries are there and then choose, etc.?  . 

 

JudyF.

SW Florida - USA

 


I could use your help. Here's the contest:

http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/create-logo-groups-io-468799/entries

I just submitted it, so there are only a few designs to review. But
over the next 4 days, a bunch should be submitted. Tell me in this
thread which ones you like or don't like. The designers can tweak the
designs as well, so suggestions for tweaks are appreciated as well.

I know creativity is subjective and everyone has different tastes. But
hopefully this will be fun.

Thanks,
Mark



 


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

 

So far I like #10.

Trish

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
As part of applying to Facebook so that people can log in using their
Facebook credentials, Groups.io is required to submit a logo. But we
don't have a logo, you say. True! But not for long. I have just
created a design contest on 99designs for a Groups.io logo. Designers
read the creative brief, and submit logo ideas, from which I'll select
a winner.

I could use your help. Here's the contest:

http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/create-logo-groups-io-468799/entries

I just submitted it, so there are only a few designs to review. But
over the next 4 days, a bunch should be submitted. Tell me in this
thread which ones you like or don't like. The designers can tweak the
designs as well, so suggestions for tweaks are appreciated as well.

I know creativity is subjective and everyone has different tastes. But
hopefully this will be fun.

Thanks,
Mark






locked Re: New feature: Login via Facebook or Google

kr402
 

Looks good.

Thanks, Mark.






locked Re: New feature: Login via Facebook or Google

 

Thanks for all your comments. I've made changes based on Shal's suggestions:

If you register on the website with a password, social logins are
disabled by default.

If you register on the website using a social login, that social login
is enabled and all others are disabled by default.

If you register through email, a direct add, or an invite through
email (i.e. don't have a password set), you're in a special state,
where the first time you log into the website, your social login
permissions are set:
- If you login using a password (going through the password reset
system), social logins are defaulted disabled.
- If you use a social login to login, that service's social login is
enabled, all other social logins are disabled.

For everyone, in your profile, you can now toggle Facebook and Google
social logins on or off individually.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

kr402
 

like: #1 
simple, plain
yes agree it needs to be small enough for portable 
devices, but the small ones so far are too small.
you can not tell what the logo is for.






locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Judy F.
 

Mark, my favorites are #8 and #9 by newbie or not. I would prefer seeing the fancy G in place of the G in Groups. The way it currently is makes me immediately think of gmail.

My second choice is #6 by arogavi . I like it because of the mail icons.

I don't like #5 and #3 by jumbo. #5 looks too small and the lettering is small. #3 is hard to read on the blue background

I like #2 and 1 by panwawer with #2 being my preference because of the shadow background. Of the two #2 would be the one I would chose

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 7:12 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Help me pick a logo! #logo

As part of applying to Facebook so that people can log in using their Facebook credentials, Groups.io is required to submit a logo. But we don't have a logo, you say. True! But not for long. I have just created a design contest on 99designs for a Groups.io logo. Designers read the creative brief, and submit logo ideas, from which I'll select a winner.

I could use your help. Here's the contest:

http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/create-logo-groups-io-468799/entries

I just submitted it, so there are only a few designs to review. But over the next 4 days, a bunch should be submitted. Tell me in this thread which ones you like or don't like. The designers can tweak the designs as well, so suggestions for tweaks are appreciated as well.

I know creativity is subjective and everyone has different tastes. But hopefully this will be fun.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Help me pick a logo!

Frances
 

Hi Mark,

I like #1 (the groups with the yellow io (bottom right)).
The top left #7 - with the G inside a double bubble is quite good too.

The conversation bubble is really old, I think. We used this at my public library more than 10 years ago. (#3 and 5).

You don’t want something that takes too much real estate when you use the icon in other ways (smartphone, for example). But it needs to be clear.

My two cents worth!

Frances

I could use your help. Here's the contest:

http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/create-logo-groups-io-468799/entries

I just submitted it, so there are only a few designs to review. But
over the next 4 days, a bunch should be submitted. Tell me in this
thread which ones you like or don't like. The designers can tweak the
designs as well, so suggestions for tweaks are appreciated as well.