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moderated Re: Group home page redesign

Duane
 

I'm wondering if it would be possible to make the Active Topics and Top Hashtags sections optional as part of the group settings.  In the General area of the Settings page, these could be included at the bottom, after the Website box, with a checkbox to enable them.  It would probably be a good idea to have them enabled by default, if the feature is added, to allow folks to get an idea of how things look before they make a decision on usage.

BTW, the problem with deleting all hashtags to remove that section is that some would be recreated when a calendar event occurs.

Duane


moderated Re: Text only emails

Dave
 

Thank you Shal.


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

 

Mark,

In this test, the Your Groups dropdown is reverted to the original, no
titles display. The Groups page now shows (truncated) titles.
I definitely prefer having the group "names" in the dropdown.

I think part of what makes the added Titles in the Groups page seem cluttered is that, in groups with subgroups, the subgroup name is a little lost between the subdomain name and the Title. For my groups without subgroups the Title doesn't seem as visually distracting to me.

I'm not sure how to fix that though. Maybe Gerald's idea of putting the Titles in their own column, but I don't necessarily want to launch you down the rabbit hole of providing per-user column selection (or sizing).

Overall, having the Titles in the page serves as a helpful reminder that groups /have/ Titles. Which is otherwise easy to forget.

Shal
Oh, and incidentally, the tab text for the page is still "Your Subscriptions". Which semantically I like better than "Your Groups" and I'd love to argue that the other usages should be converted to "Your Subscriptions", or maybe "Your Memberships", but that's another topic (and IIRC one that got argued out once before, or at least discussed).


moderated Re: Text only emails

 

David,


I request that a member may configure his or her membership to specify:
  • text only
  • no attachments.

No attachments they can already do. See the Advanced Preferences section of their subscription page. One of the selections for Max Attachment Size is 0 (no attachments).

Text only would be a new per-subscription feature. You can set the whole group to Text Only or to Normalize HTML, but not individual members.

Shal


moderated Text only emails

Dave
 

There are several members on my groups that live in fringe satellite connection areas, like Yellow Knife, Yukon.  The connection fees are based on up/down stream volume.  I request that a member may configure his or her membership to specify:
  • text only
  • no attachments.
Thank you for the consideration.

David,
linuxham, nbems, win-fldigi


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 09:29 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
which makes your #21804 a bit misleading!
Who, me, misleading? Never!!! ;) I did mention it originally but not in that standalone post. :)
 
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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:04 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
You can disagree, but it's a fact. I am talking about a case in which no display name was changed. I did not test *actually* changing a display name and at this point have no idea what happens when you do. They are two separate cases.

 I disagree with (3) because a difference was recorded

Again: a fact. The system logs a "change" in display name when none occurred, and it logs it as "changed from x to x" where x did not change.
Ah; a situation you did not mention originally, whereby a Moderator Saves an unchanged page, which makes your #21804 a bit misleading!

Chris


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

J,



Glad to hear others have noticed and are concerned about this feature in general.

Yup. I also have a ticket open with support.


For YEARS I had been trying to get display name changes by moderators logged, and for years,

In my first test I (an owner) changed a member's (not mod/owner) Display Name and it was logged as a change of moderator permissions. That caused my report to support.

After Mark reported here that the Display Name changes are now recorded I ran the same test again and this time it was recorded, but not entirely correctly. It was recorded as a Display Name change, citing my owner account as the actor, and showing the X (before) and Y (after) of the member's Display name, but not showing the member's email (your item 2). Also logged under member activity (your item 4).

Now he seems to have gone overboard in reverse, logging mods' changing display names when they did no such thing. :)

Yeah, it seems rather muddled. I haven't tried the other owner actions you cite, but I suspect I'd get similar errant results.

Shal


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Yep. Every time a mod even touches the member page, it's logged as if the mod changed their own display name from "member's original display name" to "member's original display name." That's what I suspected.

I don't even want to LOOk to see what happens when you actually change someone's display name! LOL

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:17 AM Andy W <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:04 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I am talking about a case in which no display name was changed.
I would agree with J on this.  I've just tested it on my group and if I open a member record and then just click the save button an activity log entry is generated about a display name change.

Also, I tried changing the subscription setting and posting privileges (separate tests).. This were correctly recorded in the activity but both were also accompanied by another entry in the activity log about a display name change when there was none.

Andy


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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:04 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I am talking about a case in which no display name was changed.
I would agree with J on this.  I've just tested it on my group and if I open a member record and then just click the save button an activity log entry is generated about a display name change.

Also, I tried changing the subscription setting and posting privileges (separate tests).. This were correctly recorded in the activity but both were also accompanied by another entry in the activity log about a display name change when there was none.

Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 08:56 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
I would disagree with (1) above,
You can disagree, but it's a fact. I am talking about a case in which no display name was changed. I did not test *actually* changing a display name and at this point have no idea what happens when you do. They are two separate cases.

 I disagree with (3) because a difference was recorded

Again: a fact. The system logs a "change" in display name when none occurred, and it logs it as "changed from x to x" where x did not change.

(4) is the subject of some ongoing discussion on GMF.

Glad to hear others have noticed and are concerned about this feature in general. For YEARS I had been trying to get display name changes by moderators logged, and for years, Mark would tell me the system simply doesn't log that. Now he seems to have gone overboard in reverse, logging mods' changing display names when they did no such thing. :)
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 02:03 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
The bugs here are:
(etc)

I would agree in part. I did a couple of "test changes" immediately after seeing Mark's Update (hence my message above) and found that the change in Display name did appear. So I would disagree with (1) above, and by extension I disagree with (3) because a difference was recorded. I would agree that at first glance it does look slightly as though they changed their own name, but if you read between the lines it is sort of clear that they didn't; as a result I would say (2) above nearly applies!

(4) is true but incomplete; the change appears in the Activity Log, but a search of the Moderator Activity Log won't find it, while a search in Member Activity will.

I cannot comment on (5) because I haven't tried changing anyone's posting status to see if it is correctly logged.

(4) is the subject of some ongoing discussion on GMF.

Chris


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

The bugs here are:
1. No change was made to anyone's display name
2. The log entry reads as if the moderator changed their own display name
3. The log entry says the display name was changed "from X to X" (i.e., from previous name to the same name - no change)
4. The log entry appears in the group's Member Activity log
5. The log entry appears as a result of a moderator changing the member's posting status (and possibly after making any other change to the page)
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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:53 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
if you change member X's posting status,
I'm pretty sure the log entry results from other (and pretty much any) action on the member's page, but I have not specifically verified this.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 09:15 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
BUGFIX: We were not logging when a moderator changed a user's display name.
In case anyone else has noticed this and wondered what's going on: I have let Mark know via support that this fix resulted in a new bug, wherein if you change member X's posting status, it results in a false log entry "moderator changed display name from X to X."
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Comcast throttling

David Walker
 

In the link above for the RL000003 error, there is a note that says:

If the rate-limit is impacting your ability to deliver email, shortening your server's delivery retry interval should resolve the issue.

What retry interval does groups.io use if the destination server answers with an HTTP 421 response?

David Walker


moderated Re: New premium group feature: event summary emails

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 08:15 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
you can have an email sent to your group listing the next 20 events in your group
The cal-summary emails we receive are only listing the next 10 events.  Is there also a limit on how far in advance the system is checking for events to include on the summary?

Andy


moderated Re: Comcast throttling

 

Mark,

A GMF member reported a response text from Comcast that included this link:
http://postmaster.comcast.net/smtp-error-codes.php#RL000003

I don't know if you've seen that page but it is somewhat interesting, saying that the rate limiting is adaptive to the IP address' historic traffic levels. Which implies Groups.io may periodically bump into this as traffic expands due to new group formation and/or seasonal group usage. More interestingly, it provides a phone number for you (the sender) to contact.

Or is this just a been there/done that rabbit hole?

Shal


moderated Re: Comcast throttling

Douglas Swearingen <dougiebehr@...>
 

I just looked at my group as well.  No problem now with either Outlook or Comcast.  As Gerald says the posts are now instantaneous.

Doug


From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 12:19 PM
To: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [beta] Comcast throttling
 
Just ran some tests and no issues here. Outlook.com to and from GIO are practically instantaneous.

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moderated Re: Comcast throttling

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Just ran some tests and no issues here. Outlook.com to and from GIO are practically instantaneous.

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