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moderated banned members notified they're banned when try to log in - I thought this was stopped?

 

I just discovered, through a snafu in another group besides my own where I happen to be a moderator, that when someone has been banned, and they try to log in, they get a "you have been banned" banner. I thought that banned accounts simply don't see the "join this group" or "apply for membership in this group" button, and that they are not informed they've been banned.

I have been banning members up the wazoo simply because more can be seen of their past history that way. Usually, when someone leaves my group and does not answer the "good-bye, why did you leave" questionnaire, I immediately ban them only so that I can see their member notes, etc. I was under the distinct impression that THEY ARE NOT INFORMED they've been banned. But this changes everything. Unless this is fixed, I need to go back an unban tons of people.

Is it possible to fix this but changing it back to what it was (i.e., people are not informed they're banned from a group)? I think this is a very bad situation.
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moderated Re: Messages without subject lines

 

I wish messages sent to the group without subject lines did get rejected, but they don't. If they contain hashtags, the hashtags are duplicated as a pointless subject line. Drives me mad.

Helen


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

Cacky B
 

I also prefer the original.
Cacky


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • CHANGE: In the activity log, we sometimes truncate long entries. We now have 'more' links to show the full entry.
  • NEW: Added new chat API endpoints: /newchat, /updatechat, /getchats, /deletechat, /joinchat, /leavechat.
  • NEW: Added /getevent API endpoint.
  • BUGFIX: In some cases when someone RSVPs to an event but is waitlisted, an incorrect activity log entry was generated.
  • NEW: Added /rsvp endpoint to set/update an event RSVP.
  • CHANGE: Previously, the /getsubgroups endpoint would return group objects that represented group aliases. It now longer returns these.
  • CHANGE: In the /directadd endpoint, if a subgroupname or subgroupid is specified that points to a group alias, the pointed to group will be used instead.
  • NEW: Added /getgroupaliases API endpoint to fetch group aliases.
  • INTERNAL: Split out chat websocket endpoint from the web server into a new chat server process.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Please Disable Collapse of Log Entries #suggestion

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 6:29 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
When I view the Activity Log in my main group, all entries initially show up complete, but then the long ones collapse down to two lines of text and an ellipsis. At that point there is no means available to "click open" the entry and read the whole thing.

These now have 'more' links.

Thanks,
Mark 


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

 

Mark,

Gerald wrote:

So, please accept my vote to put the list back to the way it was before these changes were started.

I like today's tweaks, but it would helpful to revert the normal case (without ?test=1) back to the pre- June 25th version, to enable an apples-to-apples comparison.

Shal


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

 

I second the vote to change it back to how it was.


On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All,
 
I've made some tweaks to the test version of the Your Groups dropdown (what you see when you go to https://groups.io?test=1). I'm truncating group titles at 30 characters. Also, I've fixed the display for when you're subscribed to just the parent group of a group that has subgroups.
 
Please let me know what you think.
 
Thanks,
Mark

 

 

Sorry, but the more I look at this, the more I think that it was a mistake to change how the list of groups is displayed to users without first having the option of maintaining the list that they have become accustomed to.

So, please accept my vote to put the list back to the way it was before these changes were started.
 
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Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All,
 
I've made some tweaks to the test version of the Your Groups dropdown (what you see when you go to https://groups.io?test=1). I'm truncating group titles at 30 characters. Also, I've fixed the display for when you're subscribed to just the parent group of a group that has subgroups.
 
Please let me know what you think.
 
Thanks,
Mark

 

 

Sorry, but the more I look at this, the more I think that it was a mistake to change how the list of groups is displayed to users without first having the option of maintaining the list that they have become accustomed to.

So, please accept my vote to put the list back to the way it was before these changes were started.
 
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Gerald


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 04:04 PM, Duane wrote:
it's not being truncated.
Too fast for me.  Now it is.

Thanks,
Duane


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 03:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I'm truncating group titles at 30 characters.
On our test group, it's not being truncated.  Still shows:

Something to test the test page - a really long title to provoke the Your Groups drop list into truncation or wrapping or something. I wonder how long this text can be?

Duane


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 7/19/2019 13:58, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 1:57 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
I've made some tweaks to the test version of the Your Groups dropdown (what you see when you go to https://groups.io?test=1). I'm truncating group titles at 30 characters. Also, I've fixed the display for when you're subscribed to just the parent group of a group that has subgroups.



Thanks,
Mark


LGTM.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 1:57 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
I've made some tweaks to the test version of the Your Groups dropdown (what you see when you go to https://groups.io?test=1). I'm truncating group titles at 30 characters. Also, I've fixed the display for when you're subscribed to just the parent group of a group that has subgroups.



Thanks,
Mark


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I've made some tweaks to the test version of the Your Groups dropdown (what you see when you go to https://groups.io?test=1). I'm truncating group titles at 30 characters. Also, I've fixed the display for when you're subscribed to just the parent group of a group that has subgroups.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Messages without subject lines

Duane
 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 01:44 AM, debbie wrote:
I find that a lot of the messages sent to the owner address here don't have subject lines. Would it be possible to apply that same wonderful feature to the owner address?
If implemented, I'd want it to be optional.  Members looking to join my groups are often not too computer savvy and forget to include a subject.  On the other hand, spammers never forget to include one. ;>)

Duane


moderated Messages without subject lines

debbie
 

I moved my yahoogroups to groups.io a year and a half ago. It was the best decision for groups ever. They are groups of over 3,000 for our local neighborhood and beyond and I've had people see me in the street or in local businesses thanking me for making the change.

Anyway, to get to the point. I wrote the following about a year ago and would like to bring it up again:

>When we transferred to groups.io, I thought it was the greatest thing when I realized that the system rejects messages without subject lines. In Yahoogroups, I was always rejecting those messages. Otherwise, how would people learn. It was easier to reject than to edit it myself.

>I find that a lot of the messages sent to the owner address here don't have subject lines. Would it be possible to apply that same wonderful feature to the owner address?

Have a good weekend,

Debbie


moderated Re: Edit RSVPs

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:19 AM, Nancy Funk wrote:
Could we please allow group owners & moderators the ability to change RSVPs for members.
This is also something I raised a support ticket (8127) for at the end of January this year and the response I got was:

Mark Fletcher (Groups.io)

Jan 28, 15:45 MST

Andy,

Unfortunately there is currently no way to change RSVPs at the owner level. It's on the TODO list, but I'm not sure when it will happen.

Thanks,
Mark
So until it changes, we are in the same boat as you. It's a feature that could be useful, if we could manage it.

Andy


moderated Re: Fuzzy photos

Andy Wedge
 

FYI,

as Bruce reported on GMF, embedded images are scaled to 640px in the long dimension.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/photos_attached_or_placed_in/31887820

Andy


moderated Re: Proposal: custom role labels

 

Hi,

To clarify: in this context, labels and types are synonymous.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 3:47 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Proposal: custom role labels

 

Hi all,

One of my groups uses a system where one or more users are given special privileges for performing specific tasks. Because these tasks are close to moderator role in privileges, members are flagged as moderators. This leads to a possible confusion where people assume the member is a moderator when in fact they are not.

 

Thus I would like to propose allowing groups to specify a limited number of custom role types. A custom role type is initially based on an existing role (for instance, a moderator) with specific permissions applied. For example, a role of “database manager”, based on “moderator” role, can be given specific permissions on databases only, and an “archivist” can be given specific permissions on archive management without being flagged as a moderator.

 

Given that custom role types might be abused by those who may not know what’s going on, I propose placing certain limits. One possible limit might be that custom role types can only be managed by list owners. Another approach is using similar principles as integration limits – owners of free groups can set a limited number of custom role types, with enterprise groups having unlimited custom role types.

 

Comments are appreciated. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


moderated Proposal: custom role labels

 

Hi all,

One of my groups uses a system where one or more users are given special privileges for performing specific tasks. Because these tasks are close to moderator role in privileges, members are flagged as moderators. This leads to a possible confusion where people assume the member is a moderator when in fact they are not.

 

Thus I would like to propose allowing groups to specify a limited number of custom role types. A custom role type is initially based on an existing role (for instance, a moderator) with specific permissions applied. For example, a role of “database manager”, based on “moderator” role, can be given specific permissions on databases only, and an “archivist” can be given specific permissions on archive management without being flagged as a moderator.

 

Given that custom role types might be abused by those who may not know what’s going on, I propose placing certain limits. One possible limit might be that custom role types can only be managed by list owners. Another approach is using similar principles as integration limits – owners of free groups can set a limited number of custom role types, with enterprise groups having unlimited custom role types.

 

Comments are appreciated. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


moderated Re: Please Disable Collapse of Log Entries #suggestion

 

What do you mean by "moderation responses" - are you talking about pending message rejections? Those don't seem to be collapsed.
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