… when they receive a message from the group with a photo attached, the photo is fuzzy.

There is a setting for that. Each group can have a different setting for the resolution of emailed pictures.

I wish this was possible to set in the group defaults as well. It may be when Mark added this he just didn't think about adding it to group subscription defaults at the same time.

Dano

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 09:34 PM, Annick Phillips wrote:

Some of the members of two of my groups are reporting that when they receive a message from the group with a photo attached, the photo is fuzzy. For others of us the photo is coming through just fine. Anyone else experiencing this?
Annick

Annick,

There is a setting for that. Each group can have a different setting for the resolution of emailed pictures. 

Admin > Settings > Max Size In Email              No resizing               Resized to a max of 140x140               Resized to a max of 312x312               Resized to a max of 488x488               Resized to a max of 1024x1024               Resized to a max of 2048x2048               Resized to a max of 4096x4096            

Automatically resize photos that are larger than a specific size in emails.

 
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Gerald

Some of the members of two of my groups are reporting that when they receive a message from the group with a photo attached, the photo is fuzzy. For others of us the photo is coming through just fine. Anyone else experiencing this?
Annick

And yes, I'm remembering that past thread now!
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I'm not sure what you mean by template, but however this is fixed, I see the most egregious problem being almost a security or privacy issue. I have never issued an invitation without a personal message included, and it is a bad thing that the message just sits around afterwards. Anyone who issues an invitation may be (in fact, probably is) clueless that the text remains there afterwards. And worse, the next mod to issue an invitation may be clueless that the previous personal message sent with an invitation goes out again by default unless they change it. This is just a bad situation.
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On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 01:36 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

I noticed today that after sending an invitation, any customized Invite text stays there until the next Invite.

Yep. It's very annoying. See this previous thread on the subject https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/31364206

There is no way to edit or remove the text without sending another Invite. The only workaround currently is to edit the text, enter no email addresses, and hit Send Invitations (resulting in "0 invitations sent" etc..) It's a hack. 

Go into Admin>Settings>Member Notices, open the active one of type Invite, and edit it back the way it was. That's what I do, but I sure wish I didn't have to.

There should be a way to edit the customized text and hit Save, or something. Otherwise, a different moderator from the last one who send an invitation may not realize they're stuck with the old Invite text, and may fail to change it; or maybe it was a one-time invite text that you know you'll never want to use again, and you may want to get rid of it a priori, even before sending another invite, instead of letting it sit there; or you may have included someone's personal info in the Invite that you don't want sitting there; etc.).

It's my preference that Member Notices be treated as message templates. An edit box to customize it prior to sending is all fine and dandy; but any such edit should not affect the template. 

My $0.02,
Bruce

(I just deleted my previous version of the message below because I'd forgotten to redact the member's real name. Thanks, Shal.:-)
I just emailed the member offlist using gmail, and got back a bounce message with the same text as above ("does not exist" etc). So she seems to be a lost cause and I've deleted her from the group.
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On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM, J_Catlady wrote:

the bounce probe I just also bounced

typo, should read "the bounce probe I just sent also bounced"
 
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By the way, the bounce probe I just also bounced, with this entry:
550 5.1.1 [R2] Recipient [redacted]@windstream.net does not exist here.

Which makes you think the email address is gone, kaput. However, she has been bouncing on and off for about a year, and at one point, she did respond to a bounce probe and was shown then as "no longer bouncing."

Maybe this is not a windstream-wide issue, but the thing about "reputation" made me wonder. At any rate, I sent the detailed info to support. I have not tried to contact the member yet outside of the system, and may not bother since she has been pretty inactive lately anyway. I just wanted to put in the alert here in case windstream was completely blocking groups.io.

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On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 12:46 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

That ip is a groups.io ip so it seems that groups.io is blocking output to your member

No, the 'error' is what the user's service is reporting back to groups.io when it rejects a message.

Duane

J,
That ip is a groups.io ip so it seems that groups.io is blocking output to your member, rather than the member's ip doing it.
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Bob Bellizzi

I noticed today that after sending an invitation, any customized Invite text stays there until the next Invite. There is no way to edit or remove the text without sending another Invite. The only workaround currently is to edit the text, enter no email addresses, and hit Send Invitations (resulting in "0 invitations sent" etc..) It's a hack. 

There should be a way to edit the customized text and hit Save, or something. Otherwise, a different moderator from the last one who send an invitation may not realize they're stuck with the old Invite text, and may fail to change it; or maybe it was a one-time invite text that you know you'll never want to use again, and you may want to get rid of it a priori, even before sending another invite, instead of letting it sit there; or you may have included someone's personal info in the Invite that you don't want sitting there; etc.).
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J

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I was trying to help troubleshoot a Database problem this morning and realized I didn't see a way to determine the owner of a Database without going to the Activity Log to find who Added Table.  Having this show on the Databases overview page could be helpful.

Thanks,
Duane

Mark,

For a true anonymous group to work, even through email, we'd have to
run an anonymizing email forwarder
... I'm not saying we can't do it, but I am saying it's a bit of work.

Perhaps something less than "true" would be less work, and cover most use cases, including Patti's.

I'm imagining that the "anonymous" feature could be available only to groups with Reply To set to "Group" (or "Moderators"). That would eliminate the need for forwarding emails (presuming you also remove the "Reply to Sender" footer link in such groups).

... a special, per individual, groups.io address, ...

I think we'd still want this, but used in the From field, not as a Reply-To. Using a group address for re-written From fields is a mistake Yahoo Groups made (for DMARC support) and it can cause havoc with user's address books and address auto-complete mechanisms. As an individual (yet anonymous) From address it would be acceptable for this to be a no-reply address.

Possibly it could be built as a +member1234 version of the group's email address, where the 1234 would be a number unique to that subscription, such as the number used in the URL for their page in the Members list.

An advantage of forming it this way is that it might be forward compatible with a future forwarding mechanism.

Shal

p.s. Mark, I will also send you the specific member activity log at support, in case that helps.
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Thought I'd put this out on beta, rather than to support, to let others know: a windstream.net group member of mine is consistently bouncing, with this reason:
"550 5.7.1 [C10] RBL restriction: Blacklisted by Internal Reputation Service - 66.175.222.12"
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:56 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

What I would like to request is that this be automated because this sorting and such can get very tedious for large groups. Instead, what I would like to see is the ability for the group owner or moderator to upload a CSV (heck, I'd do JSON or even XML) using a special group function and then  the code automatically goes through the membership list dropping those not in the CSV and adding those that are in the CSV and not in the group already.

It's kinda like the existing Slack integration, but in reverse, using the CSV file as the go-between. I would like to have such a feature, as I have similar circumstances. 

Having said that, upon first read I reached the same conclusion that J did...that it provides a work-around to Direct Add, and would thus have to be Premium/Enterprise-only.

Regards,
Bruce

_._,_._,_

Yes, the notion of it being a premium is a good one. I personally think it would be a big time saver for a reasonable segment of group owners.

Best,

Glenn

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:56 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

What I would like to request is that this be automated because this sorting and such can get very tedious for large groups. Instead, what I would like to see is the ability for the group owner or moderator to upload a CSV (heck, I'd do JSON or even XML) using a special group function and then  the code automatically goes through the membership list dropping those not in the CSV and adding those that are in the CSV and not in the group already.

It's kinda like the existing Slack integration, but in reverse, using the CSV file as the go-between. I would like to have such a feature, as I have similar circumstances. 

Having said that, upon first read I reached the same conclusion that J did...that it provides a work-around to Direct Add, and would thus have to be Premium/Enterprise-only.

Regards,
Bruce

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 07:52 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

I guess I just don't find betting helpful 

A conversation about whether or not betting is helpful is equally useless.

it shades toward arguing (against, in your case)

Not at all. I have zero opinion on this and no stake whatsoever in it. I wanted to mention that it would have to be a premium feature because it's direct-add. And to preclude any thought that I have an opinion on it after offering that tidbit, I mentioned specifically that I don't. 

That's it. And I'm now officially done with this. :)
 
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