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moderated Re: photo URLs

 

I just tested this and I don't see any problem with the URL to a photo. It still works for me. ?????
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moderated Re: photo URLs

Annick Phillips
 

Thanks for that suggestion, Gerald. I tried it with Windows 10 Edge and it works, although it brings me to the isolated photo as if I had downloaded it. It will give people quick access to the photo, but I fear they will be frustrated that they will have to do additional steps if they want to see the other photos in that person's album too. Hopefully Mark can do something to give the photos a fixed address, especially one that we can just copy and paste into an email if we are sending a message from our email rather than from the group website.
Annick


moderated Re: photo URLs

Chris Jones
 

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:48 PM, D R Stinson wrote:
I'd also still like for the owner to be able to assign ownership of files and photos to other members.
Photo ownership can be reassigned, Files currently cannot as far as I can see.

Go to the photo in question and click on Edit. One of the headings is Owner, with a drop - down arrow at the right hand side. Once clicked a complete list of members will appear, shown by Display Name; regrettably they are not in alphabetical order.  Using your keyboard enter the initial letter of the Display Name to which you wish to assign ownership, and repeat entering that letter until the wanted Display Name appears; select it, and you are done.

It is, however, unremittingly tedious particularly if you have a lot of members.

Chris


moderated Re: photo URLs

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Annick,

I agree that the current situation is not good and is in definite need of major improvement.

Using the Chrome browser, after I select an image, I can right click the Download button and select "Copy link address". This gives me a link that does later work to get to the same picture as the one I had originally selected. Presumably, other browsers would have similar capability to copy the Download button link

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Gerald


On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 03:13 PM, Annick Phillips wrote:
It used to be when I looked at a photo in a member's album I could copy and paste the URL at the top of the page, email that URL to another member on my group, and they could click on it and it would take them to the same photo. Lately though, that URL takes them to a different photo in that particular album. Is this something that happened once Mark changed the default order of the albums? Is the photo I'm trying to point to attached to its original URL instead of the one I'm seeing? And is there any way to get back to being able to point someone to an individual photo? My groups rely a lot on our photos and it's always been a great convenience to be able to give the other members a quick link to the photo we're discussing.
Annick


moderated Re: photo URLs

 

My groups rely a lot on our photos and it's always been a great
convenience to be able to give the other members a quick link to
the photo we're discussing.
I agree. I'd love to see that handy link icon (a "permalink") available
on photos (files, etc.) as they are currently on Messages and Wiki
pages.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/4837817

Shal
I agree with this. It's something that I'm sure a lot of folks would use. I wonder if it would need to be done at the same time as dealing with the ability to move folders and files between the Group Files and Group Photos areas. When we transferred my Premium groups over there were a lot of images in the Files area because at one time it was the only way to get Y! to save a full size image. Now we're forced to deal with that legacy.

I'd also still like for the owner to be able to assign ownership of files and photos to other members. We have a number of members who rejoined the group under a different email address instead of understanding how to change their address. When they then delete their old membership it leaves me, the owner, with ownership of their files. I'd rather be able to transfer that ownership back to the original poster.

Dano


moderated Re: photo URLs

 

Annick,

My groups rely a lot on our photos and it's always been a great
convenience to be able to give the other members a quick link to the
photo we're discussing.
I agree. I'd love to see that handy link icon (a "permalink") available on photos (files, etc.) as they are currently on Messages and Wiki pages.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/4837817

Shal


moderated photo URLs

Annick Phillips
 

It used to be when I looked at a photo in a member's album I could copy and paste the URL at the top of the page, email that URL to another member on my group, and they could click on it and it would take them to the same photo. Lately though, that URL takes them to a different photo in that particular album. Is this something that happened once Mark changed the default order of the albums? Is the photo I'm trying to point to attached to its original URL instead of the one I'm seeing? And is there any way to get back to being able to point someone to an individual photo? My groups rely a lot on our photos and it's always been a great convenience to be able to give the other members a quick link to the photo we're discussing.
Annick


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: Information on successful adds to subgroups in the API /directadd endpoint were not correctly returned.
  • BUGFIX: In a subgroup, you could not change the Privacy from 'Group not listed in parent group, publicly viewable messages' to 'Group listed in parent group, publicly viewable messages'.
  • BUGFIX: In the feed view, the list of new subgroups were linked to the parent group home page instead of to their individual home pages.
  • BUGFIX: In the feed view, only list new subgroups that are set to be listed in the directory.
  • SYSADMIN: Thirty minutes of downtime to upgrade the main Postgres instance to mitigate the latest Intel vulnerability.
  • BUGFIX: The .ics files produced for all day events could, depending on interacting timezones, be off by a day.
  • BUGFIX: When viewing a multi-day all day event, don't display start/end times.
  • CHANGE: Changed all time references using "GMT" to "UTC" instead for consistency.
  • CHANGE: The background of the header for the Emailed Photos album is now just grey.
  • CHANGE: The height of the header of any photo albums without descriptions has been decreased.
  • CHANGE: Created a utility to regenerate the list of timezones with the currently correct UTC offsets and timezone abbreviations.
  • CHANGE: The 'Your Groups' dropdown is limited to 400px height, and becomes scrollable after that.
  • CHANGE: The 'Your Groups' dropdown now uses the group title if it's set. NOTE: Sorting is still done by group name. This will be addressed with a future update.
  • CHANGE: Rate limiting login link requests to prevent abuse.

NOTE: I am on vacation next week. The next #changelog will be posted on July 12th.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: No Consistency to the wording for All Mail sent

 

Leeni,

All of those methods should be consistant to indicate that a person
will be getting Every Single email.
Agreed.

I would say that the /groups page and it's Actions menu should use the word "Individual". Or maybe the phrase "Individual Messages". Either would be in keeping with the change made last year to the Email Delivery option on the Subscription page.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/15982

Shal


moderated No Consistency to the wording for All Mail sent

Leeni
 

When you view the groups pages https://groups.io/groups when someone is on individual mail they see their delivery as being Single.
 
Now when they check off a box because they want to change their Delivery to Individual Mail from perhaps one of the Digests and click the Actions button, the popup window shows that selection as All Mail
 
Then if they go to their subscription and want to take themselves off of No Mail let's say, they see the choice as Individual Mail.
 
So there are 3 different words used in 3 different places to convey that a person will be getting every email individually sent to them. It can be quite confusing.  All of those methods should be consistant to indicate that a person will be getting Every Single email. It doesn't matter whatever word is choosen.  Leeni  
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Thread merge issue

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 04:06 AM, Helen wrote:
Previously, as long as I changed the subject line to match their previously running subject line (which in most cases is only a day or hours old), the new post would merge. Now, it starts a new thread even if I change the subject line to match. Not sure if this is deliberate or a glitch, but I'd like it to go back to how it was if possible please.
Helen -- I suspect the auto-merge by subject line is working for emailed messages but is not working for messages someone posts online. The threading algorithm works differently online vs email (Ref: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/12491). Please be advised that this "problem" was addressed once before, but the outcome didn't work very well; to the point that the change had to be reverted (ref: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/28941927#19464).

Regards,
Bruce 


moderated Re: make MF default group setting along with moderated and unmoderated #suggestion

 

Ok, I think this would do it (sorry for thinking out loud):

Moderated
New User Moderated
Moderate First Message of Every Topic (and below that, New User Moderated)
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moderated Re: make MF default group setting along with moderated and unmoderated #suggestion

 

On second thought the plan I outlined wouldn't work, because there would be no way to have just NuM without MF.  This would have to be thought through better. I'm mulling it over but I'm sure there's a way to do it. You would have three boxes - Moderated, NuM, and MF - and the possible combinations allowed would be Moderated, NuM, MF, and NuM plus MF. It's just a matter of figuring out the UI. 
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moderated make MF default group setting along with moderated and unmoderated #suggestion

 

I like the MF setting ("moderate first message of every topic this person starts") so much that I've been setting all members to it by hand after they pass through NuM. I've been wishing that it could be made a group option, so that they would go into that status automatically.

Currently, the group settings checkboxes for posting status are Moderated and New User Moderated (or none, if neither is checked, and the posting status options for each individual member are

Use Group Moderation Setting 

Override: not moderated

Override: moderated

Override: new user moderated

Override: not allowed to post

Override: moderate the first message of every topic this person starts

Override: moderate all messages of every topic this person starts

You would have to figure out how the group options would work with the individual members statuses. Currently, groups have the option to check one box out of two boxes Moderated and New User Moderated (or none, making it an unmoderated group).

With the new option, the group settings boxes could be MF and Moderated. If neither is checked, the group is unmoderated. If Moderated is checked, the group is moderated. Below MF would be a checkbox for NuM. If both MF and NuM are checked, members enter into MF after they pass through NuM.  The "Group Moderation Setting" referred to in an individual member's status would then be MF.

I haven't worked out all the details but that would be the basic idea. Of course, if nobody or very few people are using MF the way I am using it, this is probably not worth doing. But I'm finding it to be incredibly useful (thanks, Helen!)


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Thread merge issue

 

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 01:06 AM, Helen wrote:
thanks to the lovely Moderate First Message option Mark created at my request, I can intercept them and place their posts in their existing threads.
That reminds me: I've been meaning to request that Helen's awesome MF feature be made an additional possible group setting. I'm going to suggest this in a separate thread.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Thread merge issue

 

I have some members who create a new topic for every thought that enters their heads. They are kept on permanent moderation, and thanks to the lovely Moderate First Message option Mark created at my request, I can intercept them and place their posts in their existing threads.

Previously, as long as I changed the subject line to match their previously running subject line (which in most cases is only a day or hours old), the new post would merge. Now, it starts a new thread even if I change the subject line to match. Not sure if this is deliberate or a glitch, but I'd like it to go back to how it was if possible please.

Thank you.

Helen


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

 

Poor Mark, i know you cannot please all of the people all of the time, but I preferred it the old way (since I don't have many groups) because I could see more quickly where I wanted to go, but I can see why others prefer group names. Perhaps it might be possible for us to choose how it displays, but if not, I expect I'll get used to it.


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 03:28 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
Am I wrong, but I think that dropdown used to show all the groups I was subscribed to, as well as owned.
They should still be there, but may show a different 'name' since it's now using the group Title. For example, beta is now "The Groups.io Beta Group" and GMF is showing Help Improve the Management of Groups which is the current title. The one for GMF may change, so don't get too used to the new one.

You may need to scroll down if you have more than 14 or 15 groups, especially if there are subgroups.
Yes the names are changed to the full Group Name (2-7 words), rather than the "Group Email Address" @groups.io names (2-6 letters) - that's okay, but I'd much prefer to have a toggle so I could make it just be the simple shorter acronyms.


On closer inspection, I see that 1 of my 11 groups was also missing, along with The Groups.io Beta Group, Group_Help, Help Improve the Management of Groups, and Groups.io Updates - but that was my fault, as I was logged in with one of my alternate Owner email addresses that only Owns 10 of my 11 groups and is not subscribed to the other 4 groups. I guess the forest of words obscured my 'missing' tree. ;-}


Give us the choice to not to have all those words instead of the "Group Email Address" @groups.io names which tend to be much shorter, if not acronyms.


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moderated Upcoming Event: Downtime to patch latest Intel vulnerability #downtime - Thu, 06/27/2019 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: Downtime to patch latest Intel vulnerability #downtime

When: Thursday, 27 June 2019, 9:00pm to 11:00pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

View Event

Description:

The site will be down potentially for up to two hours, although I hope it will be much less than that. Our hosting provider, Linode, has to upgrade all the physical machines our service runs on. This downtime corresponds to the upgrade of our main database instance. It's the only downtime that I expect from this latest vulnerability.

Mail will be queued during the downtime and will be sent when we are back on-line.


Re: Feature Request- 'Your Groups' menu #suggestion

 

I'm finding it disconcerting without the underlines but I'll get used to it. :-)
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu