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moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: In some instances, all day events were displayed on the calendar as lasting a day longer than scheduled. Also, all all day events were displayed with a time, which didn't make sense.
  • BUGFIX: In some instances with a repeating event, it was not possible to check the 'Send Notice To Group When Event Happens' checkbox and have it saved properly.
  • BUGFIX: Direct add activity log entries were not showing up in the member's activity log section. This fix only applies to new log entries; previous direct adds will still not show up in the member's activity log.
  • NEW: For domains hosted by Mimecast: if a message from one of those domains is sent to another user on that same domain, we now re-write the From line, to hopefully stop tripping a bounce.
  • CHANGE: Show the updated date in the member notices view instead of the created date.
  • API: Many navigation improvements and other cleanups of the API docs.
  • CHANGE: All links in messages now open in new tabs.
  • CHANGE: Default sort order for columns is a-z, or largest to smallest, or most recent to oldest, as appropriate.
  • BUGFIX: For certain replies to messages that already contained a signature, we would display both signatures outside of the collapsed text when we should only display the last signature.
  • BUGFIX: For certain HTML replies to messages, we would not show the signature outside of the collapsed text.
  • BUGFIX: In certain situations, when doing a bulk remove of members, we would report 'Other Error' for someone who was not a subscriber.
  • API: The sidebar for the api docs is now scrollable for easier navigation.
  • API: New /getevents endpoint.
  • CHANGE: Various feed view improvements to hashtags and events.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:30 PM, jslcanuck wrote:
What if I want to return to normal
privileges to test stuff - is the only way to create a separate account?

This is a very common request with a relatively simple solution. Create another subscription to the group as a mere mortal using another account (email address). This becomes your test account. As you said, you have already considered that.

However, even better, create another test group specifically for playing around, again using multiple accounts with differing permissions to test out theories, etc. This has the advantage of not filling up the real group with test messages. Likewise, you can test out settings changes without fear of making a mess on the live group.

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Gerald


moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

jslcanuck
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:43 PM, Duane wrote:

It seems like it basically works that way now, as long as you give permission
for members to upload (and not just moderators/owners).  It's similar to
Photos in that only the 'owner' of the file or a moderator can change it.
Hmmm. Now you've got me thinking that the only problem is that I'm seeing a
problem where there's no problem. See, now that I'm a mod I've forgotten what
it's like to be a mere mortal and I'm assuming that the users have the ability to
modify files I've uploaded. What you're telling me is that they don't. So this
actually leads us to a different question.

All us grownups know of the evils of (logging in and) working as root, or of su'ing
and just going about one's daily business, so the good admins drill into us that we
should sudo instead, for an assortment of good reasons. Makes me wonder now
whether there should be a mod-do, or a way of operating as a normal user and only
stepping up to mod privileges when needed. Being shifted permanently from an
ordinary user to a mod is kind of inflexible. What if I want to return to normal
privileges to test stuff - is the only way to create a separate account?


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 04:55 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
I am still confused on what the "Delivery" sort is based on.
It's the digit that is stored as part of their record in the group database.  If you export your members list, you'll see them there.  "Email Delivery(0=Single,1=Plain Digest,2=Special,3=None,4=Full Digest,5=Summary)"

Duane


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Mark,

Thanks for the update and clarification.

I am still confused on what the "Delivery" sort is based on. Possibly last character of string? For example, when clicking on the Delivery column, I see the order as follows: Single / Special / No Email / Full Digest / Summary

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Gerald


moderated Re: include "direct added" in member activity #suggestion

 

Mark,
Great, thanks! (I would not expect old activities to be retroactively added.:)
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J

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moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

I've long been asking for the option of members being able to upload files but they need moderator approval before the files are visible to members. Would make life so very much easier for my main group.

Helen


moderated Re: include "direct added" in member activity #suggestion

 

Hi J,

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 12:19 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I can't remember whether this came up before: since moderator actions on a membership of having approved or rejected a membership are included in the member's activity history, it seems an anomaly that having been direct added is not included as well. For example, I have a group member who was initially rejected, and then direct added as a result of further offlist communication. Her member activity page shows only that a moderator rejected her and the next thing, edited her posting status. It looks a little crazy.

This bug has now been fixed. It only applies to newly generated activity log entries, however. Old ones will continue to not show up in the member's activity log.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

Yay, works perfectly now!
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

Great idea but I have always avoided subgroups. 🐱


On Jun 21, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Patti Woodbury <deserthorses@...> wrote:

J_Catlady - we kind of addressed that in an equine group by making a subgroup where each member can make a folder for their own animal (horse) and upload labs and an indepth case history.  They're them required to set up a signature which incluides the link to their folder as there are several hundred folders.  I suppose you might not want them adding cute kitty photos, etc.; with the horses some photos are useful.

Patti in AZ

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

J_Catlady - we kind of addressed that in an equine group by making a subgroup where each member can make a folder for their own animal (horse) and upload labs and an indepth case history.  They're them required to set up a signature which incluides the link to their folder as there are several hundred folders.  I suppose you might not want them adding cute kitty photos, etc.; with the horses some photos are useful.

Patti in AZ


moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

Thx, Duane, but I also don’t want anybody uploading any files except their cats’ lsbwork. 


On Jun 21, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 02:13 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I’d like to allow group members to upload their own cats’ lab reports, but not touch our informational / educational files, etc.
It seems like it basically works that way now, as long as you give permission for members to upload (and not just moderators/owners).  It's similar to Photos in that only the 'owner' of the file or a moderator can change it.

Duane

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

Members always defaults to Joined/Applied (unrestricted/restricted groups): newest - oldest
no matter which view (Display Name, Email, Delivery, or Joined/Applied) or sort order was last chosen.

Then clicking on Display Name, Email, or Delivery now yields A-Z sort;
and clicking on Joined/Applied:
if currently sorted, yields the reverse
if currently not sorted, yields newest - oldest.

Having it remember last view and sort would be preferred, but this is fine for me.



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moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

Duane
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 02:13 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I’d like to allow group members to upload their own cats’ lab reports, but not touch our informational / educational files, etc.
It seems like it basically works that way now, as long as you give permission for members to upload (and not just moderators/owners).  It's similar to Photos in that only the 'owner' of the file or a moderator can change it.

Duane


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:56 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Now all columns default to a-z sorting, except Joined, which defaults to most recent first.
That works for me.

Thanks Mark.

Andy


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

Mark,

That sounds perfect and I will check it out later.


On Jun 21, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Without some reasonable amount of work, I can't make it so individual columns remember their settings. The problem is that when sorting in a database, sorting most recent first on a number (ie date) corresponds to sorting from z to a on a string. I'm sorting the same 'direction' according to the database, but it looks like the opposite to you.

I've made the following change on the members page. If it's at least sufficient for now, I'll propagate it elsewhere. Now all columns default to a-z sorting, except Joined, which defaults to most recent first. This is almost the same as when we started this quest two days ago, but at least the default sort is more appropriate per column. Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

I’ve requested/suggested the same thing in the past. It would make my life a lot easier. I’d like to allow group members to upload their own cats’ lab reports, but not touch our informational / educational files, etc.

On Jun 21, 2019, at 11:57 AM, jslcanuck <jonathan.canuck.levine@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi - first time offering a suggestion, please be gentle.

I find myself wanting a little rw permission control in the files section of our group. File-level granularity would be great,
but I could probably live with folder/directory-level control. Has the question simply never come up, or is there a reason
for not implementing it?

Thanks.

Jonathan


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Controlling rw permissions (files section)

jslcanuck
 

Hi - first time offering a suggestion, please be gentle.

I find myself wanting a little rw permission control in the files section of our group. File-level granularity would be great,
but I could probably live with folder/directory-level control. Has the question simply never come up, or is there a reason
for not implementing it?

Thanks.

Jonathan


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

Hi All,

Without some reasonable amount of work, I can't make it so individual columns remember their settings. The problem is that when sorting in a database, sorting most recent first on a number (ie date) corresponds to sorting from z to a on a string. I'm sorting the same 'direction' according to the database, but it looks like the opposite to you.

I've made the following change on the members page. If it's at least sufficient for now, I'll propagate it elsewhere. Now all columns default to a-z sorting, except Joined, which defaults to most recent first. This is almost the same as when we started this quest two days ago, but at least the default sort is more appropriate per column. Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 10:30 AM, Andy W wrote:
I agree with the steps you execute and the results you see, but that still boils down to the fact that the initial click on a column heading (after arriving at the member list or after sorting by another column) sorts the list in reverse alpha (Z-A). 
Exactly, just tested this and Andy took the words right out of my mouth. This is still just the original problem (or "sin" ;)
 
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J

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