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moderated Re: include "direct added" in member activity #suggestion

 

Mark,
Great, thanks! (I would not expect old activities to be retroactively added.:)
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moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

I've long been asking for the option of members being able to upload files but they need moderator approval before the files are visible to members. Would make life so very much easier for my main group.

Helen


moderated Re: include "direct added" in member activity #suggestion

 

Hi J,

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 12:19 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I can't remember whether this came up before: since moderator actions on a membership of having approved or rejected a membership are included in the member's activity history, it seems an anomaly that having been direct added is not included as well. For example, I have a group member who was initially rejected, and then direct added as a result of further offlist communication. Her member activity page shows only that a moderator rejected her and the next thing, edited her posting status. It looks a little crazy.

This bug has now been fixed. It only applies to newly generated activity log entries, however. Old ones will continue to not show up in the member's activity log.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

Yay, works perfectly now!
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moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

Great idea but I have always avoided subgroups. 🐱


On Jun 21, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Patti Woodbury <deserthorses@...> wrote:

J_Catlady - we kind of addressed that in an equine group by making a subgroup where each member can make a folder for their own animal (horse) and upload labs and an indepth case history.  They're them required to set up a signature which incluides the link to their folder as there are several hundred folders.  I suppose you might not want them adding cute kitty photos, etc.; with the horses some photos are useful.

Patti in AZ

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moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

J_Catlady - we kind of addressed that in an equine group by making a subgroup where each member can make a folder for their own animal (horse) and upload labs and an indepth case history.  They're them required to set up a signature which incluides the link to their folder as there are several hundred folders.  I suppose you might not want them adding cute kitty photos, etc.; with the horses some photos are useful.

Patti in AZ


moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

Thx, Duane, but I also don’t want anybody uploading any files except their cats’ lsbwork. 


On Jun 21, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 02:13 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I’d like to allow group members to upload their own cats’ lab reports, but not touch our informational / educational files, etc.
It seems like it basically works that way now, as long as you give permission for members to upload (and not just moderators/owners).  It's similar to Photos in that only the 'owner' of the file or a moderator can change it.

Duane

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moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

Members always defaults to Joined/Applied (unrestricted/restricted groups): newest - oldest
no matter which view (Display Name, Email, Delivery, or Joined/Applied) or sort order was last chosen.

Then clicking on Display Name, Email, or Delivery now yields A-Z sort;
and clicking on Joined/Applied:
if currently sorted, yields the reverse
if currently not sorted, yields newest - oldest.

Having it remember last view and sort would be preferred, but this is fine for me.



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moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

Duane
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 02:13 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I’d like to allow group members to upload their own cats’ lab reports, but not touch our informational / educational files, etc.
It seems like it basically works that way now, as long as you give permission for members to upload (and not just moderators/owners).  It's similar to Photos in that only the 'owner' of the file or a moderator can change it.

Duane


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:56 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Now all columns default to a-z sorting, except Joined, which defaults to most recent first.
That works for me.

Thanks Mark.

Andy


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

Mark,

That sounds perfect and I will check it out later.


On Jun 21, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Without some reasonable amount of work, I can't make it so individual columns remember their settings. The problem is that when sorting in a database, sorting most recent first on a number (ie date) corresponds to sorting from z to a on a string. I'm sorting the same 'direction' according to the database, but it looks like the opposite to you.

I've made the following change on the members page. If it's at least sufficient for now, I'll propagate it elsewhere. Now all columns default to a-z sorting, except Joined, which defaults to most recent first. This is almost the same as when we started this quest two days ago, but at least the default sort is more appropriate per column. Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


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moderated Re: Controlling rw permissions (files section)

 

I’ve requested/suggested the same thing in the past. It would make my life a lot easier. I’d like to allow group members to upload their own cats’ lab reports, but not touch our informational / educational files, etc.

On Jun 21, 2019, at 11:57 AM, jslcanuck <jonathan.canuck.levine@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi - first time offering a suggestion, please be gentle.

I find myself wanting a little rw permission control in the files section of our group. File-level granularity would be great,
but I could probably live with folder/directory-level control. Has the question simply never come up, or is there a reason
for not implementing it?

Thanks.

Jonathan


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moderated Controlling rw permissions (files section)

jslcanuck
 

Hi - first time offering a suggestion, please be gentle.

I find myself wanting a little rw permission control in the files section of our group. File-level granularity would be great,
but I could probably live with folder/directory-level control. Has the question simply never come up, or is there a reason
for not implementing it?

Thanks.

Jonathan


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

Hi All,

Without some reasonable amount of work, I can't make it so individual columns remember their settings. The problem is that when sorting in a database, sorting most recent first on a number (ie date) corresponds to sorting from z to a on a string. I'm sorting the same 'direction' according to the database, but it looks like the opposite to you.

I've made the following change on the members page. If it's at least sufficient for now, I'll propagate it elsewhere. Now all columns default to a-z sorting, except Joined, which defaults to most recent first. This is almost the same as when we started this quest two days ago, but at least the default sort is more appropriate per column. Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 10:30 AM, Andy W wrote:
I agree with the steps you execute and the results you see, but that still boils down to the fact that the initial click on a column heading (after arriving at the member list or after sorting by another column) sorts the list in reverse alpha (Z-A). 
Exactly, just tested this and Andy took the words right out of my mouth. This is still just the original problem (or "sin" ;)
 
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moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Shal,

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 06:16 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Is that what you expected and want? Not me.
I agree with the steps you execute and the results you see, but that still boils down to the fact that the initial click on a column heading (after arriving at the member list or after sorting by another column) sorts the list in reverse alpha (Z-A).  All we have asked for is that it sorts A-Z.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

J,


Wow, that would be astonishing, alright. I don't even understand how this is conceivable. The table is ordered by one column at a time. I must be misunderstanding you.

Wow. Now I'm astonished for an entirely different reason.  ;-)

Let me try again:
1) You go to the Members list of your group.
2) You click on the Email column header.
3) You want it alphabetical, so you click on it again if necessary.
4) You decide to look by Applied/Joined, so you click on that column heading.
5) You want to see most recent first, so you click again if necessary.
6) Now you click back on the Email column header.
7) You observe that it has flipped over to reverse alphabetical order.

Is that what you expected and want? Not me. I think it is astonishing and undesirable that something I did to the direction of the Applied/Joined column changed the direction of the Email column when I switch back to it.

If you're still confused, do the steps again, but this time at step 5 leave the Applied/Joined column oldest first. Now what do you see at step 7?

Shal


moderated Display date of update for Member Notices

Lily Yapp
 

Currently, the Member Notices (under Settings) are displayed with the date of creation, e.g. I've created a Welcome notice two years ago, and have updated it several times, but it is showing the date when it was first created. However, I prefer to know when a notice was last updated. Would it be better if it's changed to display the date of last update in the "Date" column?

Thank you.
Lily


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 04:38 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
The table is ordered by one column at a time. I must be misunderstanding you.
My thoughts exactly.

Andy


moderated Re: fix toggling of alpha column-order vs which column ordered by #suggestion

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 08:10 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
As of last night's test the astonishing (to me) answer was "the other columns copy the ordering of the column you changed".
Wow, that would be astonishing, alright. I don't even understand how this is conceivable. The table is ordered by one column at a time. I must be misunderstanding you.
 
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