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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:53 PM Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:

Mark,

Whilst I don’t think you have many “stockport.gov.uk” addresses these also used to bounce external mails with an internal “from” address…..


I've added this domain. In the future, if anyone has a domain to add to one of the various re-write lists, please send it to support.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: "Show quoted text" box is great, now pushing my luck with further suggestion

 

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 02:39 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
we no longer collapse signatures when viewing messages in the archives.
 
Please let me know if you see any strange behavior.
Mark,

Great! Will check it out soon. 
 
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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Dave Wade
 

Mark,

Whilst I don’t think you have many “stockport.gov.uk” addresses these also used to bounce external mails with an internal “from” address…..

Dave wade

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: 28 May 2019 23:37
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:03 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:


 > * INTERNAL: Added the ability to re-write the From lines of emails
 >   from specific domains, as we already do with DMARC, to hopefully fix
 >   a delivery issue with samsung.com

I'm unclear on how that would help with delivery of messages from a
specific domain, unless you actually mean messages being delivered /to/
that domain.

Yes, the proper fix is to re-write the From line for messages sent from a Samsung address to a Samsung address. I will revisit this at some point and do a proper fix.

 

Thanks,

Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:03 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

 > * INTERNAL: Added the ability to re-write the From lines of emails
 >   from specific domains, as we already do with DMARC, to hopefully fix
 >   a delivery issue with samsung.com

I'm unclear on how that would help with delivery of messages from a
specific domain, unless you actually mean messages being delivered /to/
that domain.

Yes, the proper fix is to re-write the From line for messages sent from a Samsung address to a Samsung address. I will revisit this at some point and do a proper fix.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: "Show quoted text" box is great, now pushing my luck with further suggestion

 

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:07 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I will take advantage of the opportunity to push again for a possible change wherein the member's groups.io auto-sig is not considered part of the quoted text when a message is sent by email. The sigs currently never show up in displayed or emailed messages send by members via email, because they're added at the very bottom and considered part of the quoted text.

I spent part of the long weekend re-writing the code that figured out which parts of a message were quoted replies (and could therefore be collapsed when viewing them in the archives). The code was a mess before; I'm much happier with it now. As part of that, we no longer collapse signatures when viewing messages in the archives.

Please let me know if you see any strange behavior.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Mark,

* INTERNAL: Added the ability to re-write the From lines of emails
from specific domains, as we already do with DMARC, to hopefully fix
a delivery issue with samsung.com
I'm unclear on how that would help with delivery of messages from a specific domain, unless you actually mean messages being delivered /to/ that domain.

Shal


moderated Mistaken virus warnings

 

Hi All,

It appears there was a mistake in today's update of the anti-virus scanner that we use, clamav. It was incorrectly marking a lot of files as having a virus. Others have seen the same. I've disabled that particular virus signature for now.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

For the group rules, it’s probably best to use the “group guidelines” notice. That also appears on the “guidelines” tab on the site and can be automatically sent both monthly and to new members. Less to maintain.


On May 25, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

J,
They're all sent. I think this could be very helpful in some cases.
Got it. You're right - it's nice to have such option. I would use it to send a traditional welcome message and then the group rules. Really cool :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

J,
They're all sent. I think this could be very helpful in some cases.
Got it. You're right - it's nice to have such option. I would use it to send a traditional welcome message and then the group rules. Really cool :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 07:45 AM, Marcio wrote:
And what happens in such a case?
They're all sent. I think this could be very helpful in some cases. For example, in my group I've been wanting to send informational files as well as our standard welcome message at the time a member joins, but until now, that's been impossible.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Mark,
CHANGE: Groups can now have multiple active welcome messages.
And what happens in such a case?
I mean, why have more than one welcome active messages and, in case I have, all welcome messages will be sent at once to every new member?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 08:58 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
CHANGE: Groups can now have multiple active welcome messages.
Mark,

I tested this and I think it's a great addition. All the active welcome messages are automatically sent to new members, which means you can now send a traditional welcome message (e.g., "welcome to the Shakespeare sonnets group"), along with another separate one containing deeper content (e.g., examples of some sonnets and their analysis), etc. 

Taking advantage, as usual, of the opportunity to ask for more, I am suggesting again that at some point in time, the member notices triggered by actions under moderator control (e.g., message rejection, member removal) can be chosen at the time of the action - instead, as currently, of having to choose, before doing the individual action, which "active" one will go out automatically and then having to go back and reset, etc. (I bring this up because that's what I at first thought this welcome-message change consisted of.)

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • CHANGE: Previously, members couldn't vote in polls in announcement groups. Now the announcement setting has no effect on whether someone can vote in a poll.
  • CHANGE: Changed wording/color of the button to expand/collapse quoted message parts.
  • CHANGE: Groups can now have multiple active welcome messages.
  • INTERNAL: Added the ability to re-write the From lines of emails from specific domains, as we already do with DMARC, to hopefully fix a delivery issue with samsung.com
  • CHANGE: Added additional text to the Repost Message item in the More menu, describing when you can next repost the message.
  • BUGFIX: When paging through member search results for a query that includes a special character (like @), the query was not properly unescaped.
  • BUGFIX: Changed how we pull messages from the database during a group export to decrease the load on the database as well as increase reliability of the operation.
  • BUGFIX: For groups requiring hashtags, posting on the website didn't display an error when you tried to post without a hashtag.
  • SYSADMIN: Replaced all webserver instances to fix a kernel issue.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Poll voting behavior change

Leeni
 

Okay thanks for making that change.
The helps a lot. Leeni 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 5/24/2019 9:46:15 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Poll voting behavior change
 
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:17 PM Leeni <leeniluvsgroups@...> wrote:
Does that also allow someone who is on moderation in a non announcement group to vote in a poll?  
 
No other behavior was changed.... checking the code.... yes, they can still vote in a poll. There is currently no concept of being able to moderate a vote.

Mark 
 


moderated Re: Poll voting behavior change

 

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:17 PM Leeni <leeniluvsgroups@...> wrote:
Does that also allow someone who is on moderation in a non announcement group to vote in a poll?  
 
No other behavior was changed.... checking the code.... yes, they can still vote in a poll. There is currently no concept of being able to moderate a vote.

Mark 


moderated Re: Poll voting behavior change

Leeni
 

Does that also allow someone who is on moderation in a non announcement group to vote in a poll?  
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 05/24/19 19:20:43
Subject: [beta] Poll voting behavior change
 
Hi All,

Previously, in Announcement groups, normal members could not vote in polls. I've changed it so that the Announcement setting no longer affects whether someone has permission to vote in a poll.

Cheers,
Mark
 


moderated "Show quoted text" box is great, now pushing my luck with further suggestion

 

Mark,

I noticed, and really like, the new "Show quoted text" box, which has taken the place of the former ellipses!

I will take advantage of the opportunity to push again for a possible change wherein the member's groups.io auto-sig is not considered part of the quoted text when a message is sent by email. The sigs currently never show up in displayed or emailed messages send by members via email, because they're added at the very bottom and considered part of the quoted text.

I understand that an email auto-sig (as opposed to a groups.io auto-sig) would be difficult or impossible to sort out from quoted text (including prior emails in the thread). But when groups.io adds a sig to the message body, couldn't it be considered/treated as part of the message content when creating the message that's sent out and posted in the archive?

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Poll voting behavior change

 

Hi All,

Previously, in Announcement groups, normal members could not vote in polls. I've changed it so that the Announcement setting no longer affects whether someone has permission to vote in a poll.

Cheers,
Mark


moderated Re: Paid vs free policy- request

 

Hi All,

Thanks for the respectful discussion. Give me a couple days to figure out what I'm going to do. In the meantime, as promised, here's a picture of Feynman, preventing me from getting any work done.

executivejunior small.jpg
Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Paid vs free policy- request

 

Anybody can object to anything, real world or otherwise. The fact that they object doesn’t make their objections reasonable or based on reality.


On May 23, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Ken Kloeber via Groups.Io <KWKloeber@...> wrote:

You don’t need to worry about your PTA,
That’s Pollyanna not reality when it comes to any elected board that has to answer to what might turn out to be more than one objector after the objection  is raised and doesn’t quietly go away. They will have their backs against the wall and are not going to stand their ground and fight it, vs just telling Shal to change the forum to Google. No big deal they’ll say.  AND it will highly depend on the leaning of the board members themselves and any personal  relationship with the objectors. Real world. 

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

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