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moderated Re: separate (optional!) tab for sticky messages #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 04:31 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
A separate tab at the left for "sticky topics" (or other terminology) would solve this problem. Right now, the choice is between important, often-cited topics to be either (1) accumulating at the top of the Topics list, causing inconvenience; or (2) on the other hand, locatable only via a search.
This could be quite a useful facility; I have run into the same problem of the front page filling up with sticky topics, albeit for perfectly valid reasons. Eventually I have had to unstick some of them to release space.

One weakness of the sticky topic system is that it only "works" for those members who use the web UI all the time or at least fairly often; those who rely on email posting or reading never see them. 

There is one way of achieving the stated goal now, and that is a moderator - only hashtag called <something suitable> and as long as there is always one visible on the front page (for ease of finding!) then clicking on it will bring up all the topics with that hashtag applied. Works for any member who remembers that short cut. :)

Chris


moderated email address from sender

Michael Cope <mcope@...>
 

I know the issue of hiding the FROM email address (although not the NAME) has been discussed before.  I know several folks have requested it.  No need to rehash all of that.

I know some have said this is impossible....can't be done....makes it not an email list...etc.

I submit it has already been done.  You have already done it  in order to make Groups.io compatible with DMARC.  You know HOW to do it and every DMARC compatible email list has to deal with changing the FROM email address...so it seems that it should be a small task to simply allow an option in the Subscription to let individual users hide their FROM address (but not their Name) and have whatever would work substituted in that field.  You already have a REPLY TO address so perhaps that will work ad the FROM email address field...but given DMARC something works and you already modify the FROM address when required by DMARC.

I have some who refuse to join the group entirely because they don't want their email address divulged...yes I know they are not divulged if accessed from the web but someone who wishes to endrun our group protocol of only directly emailing others with their explicit permission is smart enough to just read the emails and violate our courtesy rules.


moderated separate (optional!) tab for sticky messages #suggestion

 

I am always trying to cut down on the number of stickies in my group, because they take up prime real estate at the top of the Topics list, forcing people to scroll through them. There are some topics I really want to appear at the top, but there are many others that I just want to be easily accessible, but not so in-your-face as to be always at the top of the list.

A separate tab at the left for "sticky topics" (or other terminology) would solve this problem. Right now, the choice is between important, often-cited topics to be either (1) accumulating at the top of the Topics list, causing inconvenience; or (2) on the other hand, locatable only via a search.

Maybe the tab would not have to be called "stickies." To avoid confusion, it could be given another name. But it would consist of topics that a group wants to have easily locatable and available to group members, akin to files.

A wiki page could be used for this; you could have a wiki page that accumulated links to important threads. But that would call for members having to scroll through the wiki, which in our group is particularly large, knowing which page to look for. A separate tab would be more convenient and more obvious.

Like the group guidelines, it would be optional per group, and the tab would appear only if a group creates such a list.
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J

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Hi,

May we add rss feeds using an OPML file through the integration?

Thanks!


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Work on adding the ability to charge for subscriptions.
  • INTERNAL: Added ability to redirect from one enterprise domain to another.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed weird timeout issue when downloading huge archives using the /downloadarchives API endpoint.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Line break to messages

Benoît Dumeaux
 

After the Y!G transfert I have lot of message with problem of line break.

I spend hours manually removing line breaks. I find a line Break Removal Tool but it's suck…

Could you be add a tool to the edit pannel?

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Dreadaxe


moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/12 01:24 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

What are your /Max Size In Photos Section/ and /Max Size in Email/ Settings?
I don't understand how these settings are relevant to my suggestion/bug report. The max size settings affect reducing image dimensions, but does not (or: should logically not) affect increasing image dimensions.

Image dimensions are reduced as soon as the "max size" threshold is reached. This is presumably for two reasons, namely (a) reduced dimensions are somewhat related to reduced file size, and (b) you might want to be able to see the entire image on your screen without using scroll bars (or without using them too much).

There are no good reasons that I can think of for increasing image dimensions. Increasing the image dimensions reduces image quality. The only people who might benefit from image dimension increases are (a) people who have bad eyesight and (b) people using small devices with high screen resolutions (e.g. smartphones).

Samuel


moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:24 PM, I wrote:
What are your Max Size In Photos Section and Max Size in Email Settings? A major reduction in the pixel count seems a might more likely explanation.
And the answer to that question is..?

Also see Shal's post on GMF, where this thread ought to have been.

Chris


moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/12 01:24 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:51 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I also uploaded a test image which is crisp and clear when viewed at
the actual size (which is smaller than the browser screen), but when
I view it on the Groups.io web site, it looks blurry because the
system slightly enlarges it.
I would not have expected a "slight enlargement" to make an image look blurred.
It depends on the resizing method. My image resizing program (XnView) gives me an option of ten different resizing algorithms when increasing an image size, and they all produce different results.

Samuel


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:01 AM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:
the visibility and ease of selection of hashtags are not at all the same on groups.io
You can always search by hashtag, as long as you know what they are, by entering them in the search box.  If you only have a few hashtags, that should be easy enough.  I wouldn't want anything that would put all the hashtags on the screen since some groups have dozens.  There have been numerous requests to add filters in the search box, which may all come at the same time.  Maybe a drop down box of hashtags could be added there.  In the meantime, it seems simple to me to filter by hashtag.

Duane


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Benoît Dumeaux
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 06:11 PM, Duane wrote:
You can already do this by going to the Hashtags item on the left menu, then choosing the hashtag you're interested in.

No Duane, the visibility and ease of selection of hashtags are not at all the same on groups.io.
When you use search function you don't show the tags selection.


moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:51 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I also uploaded a test image which is crisp and clear when viewed at the actual size (which is smaller than the browser screen), but when I view it on the Groups.io web site, it looks blurry because the system slightly enlarges it.
I would not have expected a "slight enlargement" to make an image look blurred. What are your Max Size In Photos Section and Max Size in Email Settings? A major reduction in the pixel count seems a might more likely explanation.

Chris


moderated Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

Hello

I've noticed in my group's photo folder, the images that form part of people's signatures are displayed enlarged in the list view, and extremely enlarged in single view. I'm confident that the original images were not this big.

When I click the Download button, it opens the image in its original size in the browser (which, I suppose, would be confusing to some newer computer users who would have expected to see a download dialog pop up, but that's another issue...)

I also uploaded a test image which is crisp and clear when viewed at the actual size (which is smaller than the browser screen), but when I view it on the Groups.io web site, it looks blurry because the system slightly enlarges it.

So: please don't enlarge images when displaying it in either the [thumbmail] list view or in the individual view.

(I'm using Opera with Blink rendering, by the way)

Samuel


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:00 PM, Duane wrote:
probably wouldn't solve your problem of the posts going into the same thread if several files needing the same hashtag were uploaded in a short time.  Maybe if all notifications of this type could be forced to start a new topic?
Yes, I think there are two different but related issues here.  One,that multiple file uploads get merged to the same thread (if they fall within the 2 day window of the threading algorithm) and two,the files that are uploaded could be completely unrelated to each other and therefore of more interest to some members than others.

As I mentioned on GMF, adding a filename to the subject of the notification message may make it more unique and limit the chance of threading but some filenames may be long and that may impact the display of the message subject on some mobile devices where screen real estate is at a premium.

Forcing each file upload notification to be a new topic would obviously stop the threading process but would prevent members being able to mute those notifications as each topic would have a different  number that the muting process relies on. The ability to add a hashtag would certainly give members more control over which notifications they receive.

I think I also have to correct myself regarding the steps I proposed in being able to add a hashtag where I said I put myself on moderation. When doing some initial testing I think I must have put myself on moderation and also moderated an existing upload notification message. I could therefore edit a subsequent pending notice before it went to the group.  I've just done another test and despite the fact that I had moderated myself, that setting was ignored a new upload notice was sent anyway.

Andy


moderated Re: Calendar start day option?

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

an update on this would be useful.  I know I'm going to get lots of questions on this after we add our 1000+ club members to Groups.io from 21-April.

Thanks,
Andy


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Duane
 

You can already do this by going to the Hashtags item on the left menu, then choosing the hashtag you're interested in.

Duane


moderated Re: Option to set expiry date on nomail/special notice

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/11 02:14 PM, Duane wrote:

This would be similar to the proposal in https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/6707300
It is my understanding that that proposal is for an account status ("vacation" would be a good label) that you can set at user account level, which would not affect your subscription setting in individual groups but which would result in you not getting any mail while the vacation setting is active.

Presumably the fact that your account is set to "vacation" status would be visible to moderators of the individual groups that you're a member of.

The advantage here is that it is a single setting that stops your mail in all groups at once. And yes, being able to set an end-date would make sense as well. The disadvantage (if you can call it that) would be that unless you can set any individual groups to override the vacation setting, your vacation status would affect all your groups.

This is not a bad idea, but not quite what I had in mind (due to not being able to set it per group).

If there were an additional subscription setting named Vacation, it would be distinct from NoEmail to make it easier to monitor your own status for various groups, as well as to set an automatic time span for it.
That's a nice idea: have a subscription setting (that you can set individually for any or all of your groups) called "Vacation", which [initially] has the same effect as "nomail" but which allows you also set an end-date, so that the vacation status automatically reverts after that date.

It would also solve the issue of the fact that some people use "nomail" because they're away and others use "nomail" because they NOT away.

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I suppose another feature which might solve my original issue would be a weekly or monthly digest (or summary, with just subject lines) instead of a daily one. The point is to reduce the number of messages from mailing lists while you're "away".

Samuel


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Benoît Dumeaux
 

An exemple of the use of hashtag to SMF forum.
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=482.0


moderated Re: Option to set expiry date on nomail/special notice

Duane
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 04:40 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
1. The ability for users to set a time limit on their own nomail.
This would be similar to the proposal in https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/6707300  If there were an additional subscription setting named Vacation, it would be distinct from NoEmail to make it easier to monitor your own status for various groups, as well as to set an automatic time span for it.

Duane


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Duane
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 04:38 AM, Andy W wrote:
The only way I can see of doing this at the moment is to:
  • Put myself on moderation
  • Upload a file and check the notify members option
  • Edit the pending notification message and add a hashtag (which could moderate or lock the notification message depending upon the hashtag settings).
  • Approve and send the file upload notification message.
  • Reset my moderation
This is a PITA to say the least so having having a hashtag option on the file upload dialog would be much easier and save time.
Perhaps requiring (optionally) all 'file uploaded' messages to be moderated to add the hashtag would be easier?  It would still be some work for moderators and probably wouldn't solve your problem of the posts going into the same thread if several files needing the same hashtag were uploaded in a short time.  Maybe if all notifications of this type could be forced to start a new topic?

Duane

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