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moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/12 01:24 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

What are your /Max Size In Photos Section/ and /Max Size in Email/ Settings?
I don't understand how these settings are relevant to my suggestion/bug report. The max size settings affect reducing image dimensions, but does not (or: should logically not) affect increasing image dimensions.

Image dimensions are reduced as soon as the "max size" threshold is reached. This is presumably for two reasons, namely (a) reduced dimensions are somewhat related to reduced file size, and (b) you might want to be able to see the entire image on your screen without using scroll bars (or without using them too much).

There are no good reasons that I can think of for increasing image dimensions. Increasing the image dimensions reduces image quality. The only people who might benefit from image dimension increases are (a) people who have bad eyesight and (b) people using small devices with high screen resolutions (e.g. smartphones).

Samuel


moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:24 PM, I wrote:
What are your Max Size In Photos Section and Max Size in Email Settings? A major reduction in the pixel count seems a might more likely explanation.
And the answer to that question is..?

Also see Shal's post on GMF, where this thread ought to have been.

Chris


moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/12 01:24 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:51 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I also uploaded a test image which is crisp and clear when viewed at
the actual size (which is smaller than the browser screen), but when
I view it on the Groups.io web site, it looks blurry because the
system slightly enlarges it.
I would not have expected a "slight enlargement" to make an image look blurred.
It depends on the resizing method. My image resizing program (XnView) gives me an option of ten different resizing algorithms when increasing an image size, and they all produce different results.

Samuel


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:01 AM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:
the visibility and ease of selection of hashtags are not at all the same on groups.io
You can always search by hashtag, as long as you know what they are, by entering them in the search box.  If you only have a few hashtags, that should be easy enough.  I wouldn't want anything that would put all the hashtags on the screen since some groups have dozens.  There have been numerous requests to add filters in the search box, which may all come at the same time.  Maybe a drop down box of hashtags could be added there.  In the meantime, it seems simple to me to filter by hashtag.

Duane


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Benoît Dumeaux
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 06:11 PM, Duane wrote:
You can already do this by going to the Hashtags item on the left menu, then choosing the hashtag you're interested in.

No Duane, the visibility and ease of selection of hashtags are not at all the same on groups.io.
When you use search function you don't show the tags selection.


moderated Re: Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:51 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I also uploaded a test image which is crisp and clear when viewed at the actual size (which is smaller than the browser screen), but when I view it on the Groups.io web site, it looks blurry because the system slightly enlarges it.
I would not have expected a "slight enlargement" to make an image look blurred. What are your Max Size In Photos Section and Max Size in Email Settings? A major reduction in the pixel count seems a might more likely explanation.

Chris


moderated Do not enlarge small images #bug #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

Hello

I've noticed in my group's photo folder, the images that form part of people's signatures are displayed enlarged in the list view, and extremely enlarged in single view. I'm confident that the original images were not this big.

When I click the Download button, it opens the image in its original size in the browser (which, I suppose, would be confusing to some newer computer users who would have expected to see a download dialog pop up, but that's another issue...)

I also uploaded a test image which is crisp and clear when viewed at the actual size (which is smaller than the browser screen), but when I view it on the Groups.io web site, it looks blurry because the system slightly enlarges it.

So: please don't enlarge images when displaying it in either the [thumbmail] list view or in the individual view.

(I'm using Opera with Blink rendering, by the way)

Samuel


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:00 PM, Duane wrote:
probably wouldn't solve your problem of the posts going into the same thread if several files needing the same hashtag were uploaded in a short time.  Maybe if all notifications of this type could be forced to start a new topic?
Yes, I think there are two different but related issues here.  One,that multiple file uploads get merged to the same thread (if they fall within the 2 day window of the threading algorithm) and two,the files that are uploaded could be completely unrelated to each other and therefore of more interest to some members than others.

As I mentioned on GMF, adding a filename to the subject of the notification message may make it more unique and limit the chance of threading but some filenames may be long and that may impact the display of the message subject on some mobile devices where screen real estate is at a premium.

Forcing each file upload notification to be a new topic would obviously stop the threading process but would prevent members being able to mute those notifications as each topic would have a different  number that the muting process relies on. The ability to add a hashtag would certainly give members more control over which notifications they receive.

I think I also have to correct myself regarding the steps I proposed in being able to add a hashtag where I said I put myself on moderation. When doing some initial testing I think I must have put myself on moderation and also moderated an existing upload notification message. I could therefore edit a subsequent pending notice before it went to the group.  I've just done another test and despite the fact that I had moderated myself, that setting was ignored a new upload notice was sent anyway.

Andy


moderated Re: Calendar start day option?

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

an update on this would be useful.  I know I'm going to get lots of questions on this after we add our 1000+ club members to Groups.io from 21-April.

Thanks,
Andy


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Duane
 

You can already do this by going to the Hashtags item on the left menu, then choosing the hashtag you're interested in.

Duane


moderated Re: Option to set expiry date on nomail/special notice

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/11 02:14 PM, Duane wrote:

This would be similar to the proposal in https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/6707300
It is my understanding that that proposal is for an account status ("vacation" would be a good label) that you can set at user account level, which would not affect your subscription setting in individual groups but which would result in you not getting any mail while the vacation setting is active.

Presumably the fact that your account is set to "vacation" status would be visible to moderators of the individual groups that you're a member of.

The advantage here is that it is a single setting that stops your mail in all groups at once. And yes, being able to set an end-date would make sense as well. The disadvantage (if you can call it that) would be that unless you can set any individual groups to override the vacation setting, your vacation status would affect all your groups.

This is not a bad idea, but not quite what I had in mind (due to not being able to set it per group).

If there were an additional subscription setting named Vacation, it would be distinct from NoEmail to make it easier to monitor your own status for various groups, as well as to set an automatic time span for it.
That's a nice idea: have a subscription setting (that you can set individually for any or all of your groups) called "Vacation", which [initially] has the same effect as "nomail" but which allows you also set an end-date, so that the vacation status automatically reverts after that date.

It would also solve the issue of the fact that some people use "nomail" because they're away and others use "nomail" because they NOT away.

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I suppose another feature which might solve my original issue would be a weekly or monthly digest (or summary, with just subject lines) instead of a daily one. The point is to reduce the number of messages from mailing lists while you're "away".

Samuel


moderated Re: Hashtag search

Benoît Dumeaux
 

An exemple of the use of hashtag to SMF forum.
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=482.0


moderated Re: Option to set expiry date on nomail/special notice

Duane
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 04:40 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
1. The ability for users to set a time limit on their own nomail.
This would be similar to the proposal in https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/6707300  If there were an additional subscription setting named Vacation, it would be distinct from NoEmail to make it easier to monitor your own status for various groups, as well as to set an automatic time span for it.

Duane


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Duane
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 04:38 AM, Andy W wrote:
The only way I can see of doing this at the moment is to:
  • Put myself on moderation
  • Upload a file and check the notify members option
  • Edit the pending notification message and add a hashtag (which could moderate or lock the notification message depending upon the hashtag settings).
  • Approve and send the file upload notification message.
  • Reset my moderation
This is a PITA to say the least so having having a hashtag option on the file upload dialog would be much easier and save time.
Perhaps requiring (optionally) all 'file uploaded' messages to be moderated to add the hashtag would be easier?  It would still be some work for moderators and probably wouldn't solve your problem of the posts going into the same thread if several files needing the same hashtag were uploaded in a short time.  Maybe if all notifications of this type could be forced to start a new topic?

Duane


moderated Re: Delete part of message "[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]"

Duane
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 04:05 AM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:
How hide or delete automatically this part of message?
You'd need to edit each message to remove it.

Duane


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Do you think a user who uploads a file should be allowed to set only hashtags, or should he be allowed to add anything to the subject line that he feels is relevant (including, if he chooses, hashtags)?
I am not envisioning any changes to hashtag permissions either.  If a user has the ability to upload a file and also use hashtags (either existing ones or creating new ones) then an option to add those on the file upload dialog (in the same manner as when starting a new topic) would be helpful.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/11 12:13 PM, Andy W wrote:

I'm just thinking that anyone who has permission to upload files [should have] the ability to add a hashtag to the subject line of the notification messages.  A users' ability to upload is controlled by group permissions and I am not suggesting any changes there.
Aaah, I see.

Do you think a user who uploads a file should be allowed to set only hashtags, or should he be allowed to add anything to the subject line that he feels is relevant (including, if he chooses, hashtags)?

Samuel


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Samuel,

I hadn't considered any kind of auto-detect feature but that is not on my radar.  I'm just thinking that anyone who has permission to upload files has the ability to add a hashtag to the subject line of the notification messages.  A users' ability to upload is controlled by group permissions and I am not suggesting any changes there.

Andy


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/11 12:09 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:

1. the option to auto-detect the file type referred to in an upload notification, and to then have a file type hashtag (e.g. #pdf, #docx, #gif) added to the upload notification
and/or
2. the option to auto-detect the file type of any attachment sent to the list, and then to them have a file type hashtag (e.g. #pdf, #docx, #gif) added to the subject line of that message
Or, do you want the hashtag to be something customizable, triggered by the file type (e.g. if PDF then add #lookhere, if DOCX then #swimaway, if GIF then #heycomeseethisanimation).

Samuel


moderated Re: Ability to add hashtags to file upload notifications #suggestion

Samuel Murrayy
 

On 2019/04/11 11:38 AM, Andy W wrote:

Different file types may be of more interest to some members than others so having different hashtags and being able to mute them allows users to select which notifications they want to filter out.
Do I understand correctly that you want either:

1. the option to auto-detect the file type referred to in an upload notification, and to then have a file type hashtag (e.g. #pdf, #docx, #gif) added to the upload notification

and/or

2. the option to auto-detect the file type of any attachment sent to the list, and then to them have a file type hashtag (e.g. #pdf, #docx, #gif) added to the subject line of that message

and...

do you want the activation of this feature to be a user setting or a group setting?

Samuel

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