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moderated Re: log activity "started new topic" #suggestion

 

Hi J,

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 7:47 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
In my ongoing effort to get a handle on how many topics are being started during a period of time, when, and by whom, I previously requested the ability to do a search that returns the first post of every topic.

Out of curiosity, what do you do with this information?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: log activity "started new topic" #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 


I couldn't get any of the other tag ones to do anything either lol

Gerald


moderated Re: log activity "started new topic" #suggestion

 

I think the entry could be "New topic" in the Messages activity log, and "Sent new topic" in the member activity. Or something like that.
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moderated Re: log activity "started new topic" #suggestion

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 07:22 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
it seems to be a no-op at this point
...assuming my understanding is correct that it's supposed to log a message creating a new tag...??? I think I'll wait that one out.
 
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moderated Re: log activity "started new topic" #suggestion

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 06:57 AM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
There is already an "Action" called "Message with a new tag"
Hmmm, never knew that existed, so I just tested it and it seems to be a no-op at this point (nothing gets logged). I'll send a message to support.

"Message with a new topic"
That would do, although I'm not crazy about it. The entry "message with a new tag" accurately describes a message with a certain attribute (the tag). But in "message with a new topic," the relationship between the message and the topic is different - the message is part of the new topic. That said, I don't think it really matters much what it's called.

 
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J

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moderated Re: log activity "started new topic" #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:47 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
In my ongoing effort to get a handle on how many topics are being started during a period of time, when, and by whom, I previously requested the ability to do a search that returns the first post of every topic. As a separate (but related) suggestion, it would be really helpful to have an action logged called "started new topic."  It might be called "sent new topic" or whatever. I'm not sure what the best verbiage is, since if the group or user is moderated, or is MF (moderate first topic), the message would be moderated. In any case, it would be great to get a handle on the action of starting new topics.
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J

 

Hard to imagine that there could be a type of "Action" that isn't already covered...  😉

There is already an "Action" called "Message with a new tag", so perhaps "Message with a new topic".
 
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moderated The topics-test page shows currently disabled

Leeni
 

 
In one of my groups we are in the process of deleting very old messages from when my group was on Yahoo.
The messages are all blank. There isn't anything in them now. There is no reason that they need to be there.
There are many thousands of them. I went to work on deleting them and I got the following message
when I added the -test to the topics URL
Is this a bug?
We need that feature to work or a way we can hide the messages from members or another way to delete messages in mass. My groups are used as email groups only and new people who join the group shouldn't be able to reap the benefits of the group before they were members. 
Thank, Ilene
 


moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

Noel Leaver
 

> US could work. I don't think we need a badge for settled, as that will be the "normal" case for members.

My first thought on seeing US is Unservicable or that they are in the USA.

>We have NuM as a precedent for three-letter badges, so another idea might be UnP for UnPaid.

Better.

Noel


moderated log activity "started new topic" #suggestion

 

In my ongoing effort to get a handle on how many topics are being started during a period of time, when, and by whom, I previously requested the ability to do a search that returns the first post of every topic. As a separate (but related) suggestion, it would be really helpful to have an action logged called "started new topic."  It might be called "sent new topic" or whatever. I'm not sure what the best verbiage is, since if the group or user is moderated, or is MF (moderate first topic), the message would be moderated. In any case, it would be great to get a handle on the action of starting new topics.
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

 

Mark,

3) If the group is restricted, the credit card is not charged. If the
person's pending subscription is approved, the credit card is charged
at that time.
Sounds good to me (including 1 & 2).

Right now, it's set so that you can view/edit your subscription plan
on your group Subscription page. I should also make an overall
subscription page on your account.
Excellent.

Shal


moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

 

J,

... what about US (for unsettled) and/or S for settled.
US could work. I don't think we need a badge for settled, as that will be the "normal" case for members.

We have NuM as a precedent for three-letter badges, so another idea might be UnP for UnPaid.

Shal


moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 12:04 PM Andy W <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
There is no reference to subgroups here and I seem to recall a recent change to allow members invited to join a subgroup to be automatically added to the main group. Is that route in covered by this proposed feature?

For at least this first iteration, the subscription plans will be based on the parent group, and will cover all subgroups. You do bring up a good point that I need to consider the invite flow.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

 

Hi Shal,

Thanks for the feedback. How about this flow instead:

1) Person hits the join/apply button. This goes to a new screen, where they select a subscription plan and enter their credit card information (if we don't already have their credit card info).
2) If the group is not restricted, the credit card is charged immediately and they are in.
3) If the group is restricted, the credit card is not charged. If the person's pending subscription is approved, the credit card is charged at that time.

If the group is asking for donations, the new screen could say so and make the selection of a subscription plan/credit card optional.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:37 AM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Eventually there's the whole flow when it is time for the member to renew. That probably also speaks to an account page to manage the paid subscriptions (which renewals are due soon?).

Right now, it's set so that you can view/edit your subscription plan on your group Subscription page. I should also make an overall subscription page on your account.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Frame showing attachents in a topic #suggestion

KWKloeber
 

WOW. Instead of worrying about "private" vs. "off list" or "who cares", we might think about asking Mark if the below (right side frame) can be added?
WOW is all I can say, what a valuable tool.


moderated Re: Reply to Sender

KWKloeber
 

Sharon would "Private Message"  or "Persona Message" sound/work better? 
"PM me" seems to be one of those unwritten standards these days.
Perhaps in conjunction w/ an iconized button like simplemachines platform forum uses....

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moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 12:09 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I just realized that NP also means No Post. Maybe that's not a problem since one is a subscription status and the other is a posting privilege. Still, it may be better to come up with something else.
I'm not going to have a paid group, so i have no stake in this, but what about US (for unsettled) and/or S for settled.
 
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moderated Re: (Groups.io) Feed; a Possible Limitation

Sharon Villines
 

I frequently advise my members about what features are useful and which might be confusing.

This also brings up a discussion of features that they were unaware of and would like to use.

The feed might be more useful in a workplace setting where one has to keep up with discussions on various subgroups.

Sharon
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On Mar 28, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
One option might be to increase the number of "Active" topics listed, although the cut - off point will still be a bit arbitrary; on the face of it 10 doesn't seem excessive but it would have the downside of making the Feed page that much longer.

A second option might be to change the title Active Topics to 5 Most Recent Posts; the more I think about it the more I like that, although it might be a bit too subtle for subscribers to realise that there might be more if they take the trouble to look.

Chris


moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

 

I wrote:


Maybe that becomes an account page for payments, where the user gets to manage them.

I suppose that could be a tab in the user's Subscription page for that group instead.

That might make for a more natural landing page after the user clicks the Request button. It seems like fair game for a NP (Not Paid) member to access the Subscription page even though they can't yet access group content.

Damn. I just realized that NP also means No Post. Maybe that's not a problem since one is a subscription status and the other is a posting privilege. Still, it may be better to come up with something else.

Shal


moderated Re: Paid groups join flow

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 06:16 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Am I missing anything?
 
There is no reference to subgroups here and I seem to recall a recent change to allow members invited to join a subgroup to be automatically added to the main group. Is that route in covered by this proposed feature?

Andy


moderated Re: Visibility of Menus

 

Sharon,


The Groups.io menus are less visually noticeable than they could be. The content  on the page contains lots of blue and white space, various symbols ( [ … etc.

Can you cite (or better, screenshot) an example? I'm looking around and not seeing what you describe, though it may be right in front of me.
Shal

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