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moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Bob Bellizzi
 

Possibly, or from an individual message received via email, or, in response to a request from a member one of our "mentors" might run a search and provide the message number.
Or, in a more recent email a member tells a correspondent that the procedure is described in message number NNNNNNN.
The correspondent, not one to "do the internet" can then "call" for that particular email to be sent to them.
Think of it as a remote access request for specific information.
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

Bare bones description w/o reasons:
Provide an additional email command, similar to those for changing email delivery,
to give email only members the ability to have a specific, by number, message emailed direct to them.

e.g. xyzgroup+call@groups.io (with a subject of )14587

would cause that numbered message to be transmitted to that member's email address.
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I'm not sure I'm understanding the idea. Is this so a member can have a message re-sent to them by the system rather than having to go to the web page to read it?

Dano


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

Ok. Totally distinct idea from mine and I can see where it might be useful.
One question: how would the member know the message number they want to receive in the first place? From the digest or summary?
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Bob Bellizzi
 

Bare bones description w/o reasons:
Provide an additional email command, similar to those for changing email delivery, 
to give email only members the ability to have a specific, by number, message emailed direct to them.

e.g. xyzgroup+call@groups.io   (with a subject of )14587

would cause that numbered message to be transmitted to that member's email address.
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

While I don't understand the details of this request, I may have a similar request, namely: it would be very convenient to have a way to alert a certain group member to a specific a message, either by emailing it to them specifically, or emailing them a link to it, or some sort of notification. I am thinking more or less of an @ feature. This may have been requested in the past, and this may or may not be related to Bob's request.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Bob Bellizzi
 

I realized that most of our 3500 member depend on email rather that online communication so specifying a message number for answer's to questions and even public or other wiki doesn't help them.  
While we group congisetti move back and forth between online and email, my and many other groups' member's average age tends to put them in the "not hot on internet" set and many of the features that make groups.io so great are useless to them.

Our main group for patient advocacy is for a genetic disease area that is currently very dynamic, with new surgeries and non-surgical remedies emerging.  Some subset of people will spend their lives avoiding vision restoring surgery waiting for the ngc (next great cure), and some of those are actually showing up.
So we have NGCs and people who want them. 
To make it possible, it would be helpful to have a special email "command" that calls to have a specific message returned to the "caller" regardless of their email setup definition (no email, special notices, digest, individual, whatever), the message would be emailed to them after they initiated the call.

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 07:46 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've changed the default sort for both the album view as well as within each album to be most recent first. This is how Flickr does it, and I think that's what everyone's asking for?
If the last sentence is true then IMHO it reinforces the old agage of "be careful what you ask for". I have spent a lot of time with "historical" photos within albums to put photos in a sensible order by renaming photos as 01:, 02:, etc up to nn when nn ≤ 99. The new convention has played havoc with that and the photos now appear in a more or less random order. Now I accept that as an individual I can set them back using Sort by Title^ but I would much prefer to be able to set a Group default for both Albums and Photos back to the way things were.

At the moment, from my group's viewpoint, this change has not been an improvement. .

Chris


moderated Re: improve/fix logging, etc., of "set display name via email" action #suggestion

 

Mark, just letting you (and anyone else who may be wondering about this) know that I can no longer find the example of nor reproduce this logging issue. I think the logging is fine and will not be emailing you at support. Thanks.
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Yahoo appears to be cleaning house

Peter Rawbone
 

Is all Yahoo? In our group Yahoo.uk has been affected but .com not - so far.

Regards


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • NEW: Remember sort field/order for the Photos section (not yet viewing a specific album).
  • BUGFIX: If a subscription's display name was not set and the user's display name wasn't set, we would set ALL of the user's subscriptions to the name we pulled from the From line in an email. This would overwrite a display name previously set by a moderator.
  • NEW: The /feed page is now feature complete, including displaying chats, wikis, databases, new subgroups, and recent images sent as attachments.
  • CHANGE: In the Photos section, changed the default sort for albums and within albums to be most recent first.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed obscure redirect bug because 'groups.io' is a suffix of the new enterprise group dgroups.io.
  • INTERNAL: Parallelized the deletion of attachments from S3 when we delete a group, because it was taking too long.
  • CHANGE: When viewing banned members, the column name is now Banned. When viewing normal members of a restricted group, the column name is now Applied.
  • CHANGE: When banning someone, we record the moment the person is banned. Previously, if the person was a member, we kept the date the person applied/joined and used that.
  • CHANGE: When adding/editing an event, check by default the 'Send Invite To Group' option.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I've just pushed a change that will remember a user's sort field/order when viewing the Photos section. I will add remembering sort field/order when viewing an album next week, because it's late right now.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Annick Phillips
 

Like Janice, I had set up a protocol for my group albums such that they would sort in a certain way by title, using the number 1 before the name of the first group (and those albums starting with 1 then sorted alphabetically), 2 before the next group, etc.  Having an automatic sort by "most recent" now would totally screw up the effort that was made to make the albums show up in a certain order.  I, too, would much prefer to allow each group to choose their default sort for albums and photos, or even better to allow each member's sort selection to be a "sticky" selection. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.  Annick


moderated Re: Emailed Photos album

Anita L
 

Mark that would be wonderful. Thanks so much.
 
Anita


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Patty Sliney
 

OMG, thank you!!!!  A million thank yous from this list owner of two very large lists whose list members are not the most computer savvy.  Yes, Photo Albums to sort by Created - Most Recent, and within a photo album, Posted - Most Recent.  Nearly every other photo sharing site or group sorts in this manner.  My list mods are going to jump for joy, lol!!


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Janice
 

My members are very, very unhappy at this new sort.  We are hoping you will make an option under Settings so that each group can have its own sorting default.

Janice B
New Statler Siblings


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Janice
 

My groups would prefer sorting by title ^.  The first three albums in our group are temporary holding albums.  We are quilters.  The first album is Show and Tell, the second album is I Need Help, and the third album is This Might Help.  I have numbered these albums so they always display first (001, 002, 003).  I just received a panic email because those albums do not automatically appear first.  I received another message from someone who wanted to add a picture to the Show and Tell album but couldn't find it so they sent the picture to me and asked me to add it to the album.  I remove pictures from these three albums after 7 days to preserve storage space.  My members know that they need to download and save pictures from these albums within the seven day limit.

Janice B
New Statler Siblings Group


moderated Re: improve/fix logging, etc., of "set display name via email" action #suggestion

 

Anyway, I'll take this part offlist to support. Thanks.


On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 4:17 PM J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 03:16 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
There's only one activity log. If it appears in the group log, it'll appear in the member's log.
p.s. Mark, to clarify, I meant was that it is not logged in the individual member's Activity History. It is probably correctly logged in the group's Member Activity log, since (as you say) that's just a subset of the group's "All Activity" log. The weirdness is to see the out-of-the-blue new display name, together with no entry about it in the members' activity page (AND you do see it in the group's activity log).
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: improve/fix logging, etc., of "set display name via email" action #suggestion

 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 03:16 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
There's only one activity log. If it appears in the group log, it'll appear in the member's log.
p.s. Mark, to clarify, I meant was that it is not logged in the individual member's Activity History. It is probably correctly logged in the group's Member Activity log, since (as you say) that's just a subset of the group's "All Activity" log. The weirdness is to see the out-of-the-blue new display name, together with no entry about it in the members' activity page (AND you do see it in the group's activity log).
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: improve/fix logging, etc., of "set display name via email" action #suggestion

 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 03:16 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
there was a bug in the system that would cause the subscription display name to be overwritten if: 1) the user sends a message to another group they are subscribed to and, 2) that group's moderator had not set their display name (and 3) the user themselves hadn't set a display name). So, yeah, that should be fixed now.
Thanks, that was my guess. Glad you've been able to fix it!

If it appears in the group log, it'll appear in the member's log. If there's an instance of that not happening, something else is up; please send a link to support and I'll bug hunt.
Yes, this particular case is logged in the group activity log but not the member's activity log for the other groups. I'll try to find the particular occurrence that caused me to start this thread and send it to support. If I can no longer find it, I can say that I'm pretty sure that the circumstances causing the bug above (subscription display name gets overwritten if the name changes in a different group) is logged in each group's activity log but not the member's activity log for groups in which they didn't change their name.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: improve/fix logging, etc., of "set display name via email" action #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:16 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Ok, I figured things out. <snip>  So, yeah, that should be fixed now.
And thanks from me! I have seen this weirdness on the group I moderate and it has puzzled me several times, although it never was an actual "issue". (On second thoughts it might have been once or twice, but one external Groups.io as we use the Display Name as an "indentifier" for access to a separately hosted Archive.)

So thanks for applying a fix and clarifying why it was necessary.

Chris

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