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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Mark,

Changes to the site this week:
Missed this one (for some it's kind-of a big one):

* CHANGE: Only display photos in the Emailed Photos album that are
larger than 100x100 pixels.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/20431

Shal


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Jim Higgins
 

Received from J_Catlady at 3/23/2019 10:37 PM UTC:

My favorite would be
SendMeMessage#xyz

There ya go!! That seems like it would be pretty hard to nitpick to death as being "confusing" at some future date.

With apologies to Bob Dylan... "An' here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going thru all these things twice." ;-)

Jim H


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Bob Bellizzi
 

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 03:37 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
SendMeMessage#xyz
That might cause issues with the email server since it would seem an infinite number of accounts, one per message in the archive.
If the Subject of SendMeMessage were the message number it eases the parsing.


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Bob Bellizzi

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moderated Re: Specify message number instead of topic title in member email delivery history @suggestion

 

sorry for hashtag typo...can't fix
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J

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moderated Specify message number instead of topic title in member email delivery history @suggestion

 

Specifying the topic title in a member's email delivery history is minimally useful if the most recent successful and most recent unsuccessful deliveries are from the same topic. The link to the actual messages are provided, but having to click on them can take a lot of time just to understand which message in the sequence was delivered and which was missed, etc.  Providing an identifier (the message #) instead of, or in addition to, the message title and link would make it easier to understand the situation.
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Mark,

* CHANGE: When adding/editing an event, check by default the 'Send
Invite To Group' option.
I'm confused. I thought it already was, and that was the complaint:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/30699549#20418

Shal


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Annick Phillips
 

Thanks so much, Mark! That seems to be a solution that could please everyone. It will be helpful to my groups to see the newest photo in each album first, but we liked the albums themselves sorted by title, so now we can have both just by choosing "sort by title" for our albums and they will stay that way. It is so refreshing to have the management of IO Groups actually responding to the needs and wants of the group owners, unlike Yahoo. You have reaffirmed that our decision to move our groups here was the right one. Annick


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

My favorite would be
SendMeMessage#xyz
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J

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moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 03:26 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
you're ordering it off a menu
...or ordering it for delivery. :)
 
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J

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moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 02:59 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
Call seems a bit obscure. How about +retrieve ? Or even +GetMessage ?
I was thinking "OrderMessage." Like you're ordering it off a menu. :)
 
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J

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moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

Bob Bellizzi wrote:

To make it possible, it would be helpful to have a special email
"command" that calls to have a specific message returned to the
"caller" regardless of their email setup definition (no email, special
notices, digest, individual, whatever), the message would be emailed
to them after they initiated the call.
and later:
e.g. xyzgroup+call@groups.io (with a subject of )14587
Call seems a bit obscure. How about +retrieve ? Or even +GetMessage ?

Either way, it sounds like the email-command equivalent of the web Send-to-me feature I proposed once long ago.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/2195268

In your use case it seems like you'd want the ability to call a message that was posted before you joined the group; that seems a fairly likely case when a "mentor" is directing you to a prior message. That would break a protection I suggested back then.

So it re-opens the question of whether there needs to be any protection against having a new(ish) group member collect all of the group's history by calling for the messages sequentially. For my groups I'd rather have the feature than not, so I hope there's an answer that Mark will be comfortable with implementing.

Shal


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Bob Bellizzi
 

Possibly, or from an individual message received via email, or, in response to a request from a member one of our "mentors" might run a search and provide the message number.
Or, in a more recent email a member tells a correspondent that the procedure is described in message number NNNNNNN.
The correspondent, not one to "do the internet" can then "call" for that particular email to be sent to them.
Think of it as a remote access request for specific information.
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

Bare bones description w/o reasons:
Provide an additional email command, similar to those for changing email delivery,
to give email only members the ability to have a specific, by number, message emailed direct to them.

e.g. xyzgroup+call@groups.io (with a subject of )14587

would cause that numbered message to be transmitted to that member's email address.
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I'm not sure I'm understanding the idea. Is this so a member can have a message re-sent to them by the system rather than having to go to the web page to read it?

Dano


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

Ok. Totally distinct idea from mine and I can see where it might be useful.
One question: how would the member know the message number they want to receive in the first place? From the digest or summary?
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Bob Bellizzi
 

Bare bones description w/o reasons:
Provide an additional email command, similar to those for changing email delivery, 
to give email only members the ability to have a specific, by number, message emailed direct to them.

e.g. xyzgroup+call@groups.io   (with a subject of )14587

would cause that numbered message to be transmitted to that member's email address.
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

 

While I don't understand the details of this request, I may have a similar request, namely: it would be very convenient to have a way to alert a certain group member to a specific a message, either by emailing it to them specifically, or emailing them a link to it, or some sort of notification. I am thinking more or less of an @ feature. This may have been requested in the past, and this may or may not be related to Bob's request.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Suggested Feature - Provide email "call" for a message by specifying the message number

Bob Bellizzi
 

I realized that most of our 3500 member depend on email rather that online communication so specifying a message number for answer's to questions and even public or other wiki doesn't help them.  
While we group congisetti move back and forth between online and email, my and many other groups' member's average age tends to put them in the "not hot on internet" set and many of the features that make groups.io so great are useless to them.

Our main group for patient advocacy is for a genetic disease area that is currently very dynamic, with new surgeries and non-surgical remedies emerging.  Some subset of people will spend their lives avoiding vision restoring surgery waiting for the ngc (next great cure), and some of those are actually showing up.
So we have NGCs and people who want them. 
To make it possible, it would be helpful to have a special email "command" that calls to have a specific message returned to the "caller" regardless of their email setup definition (no email, special notices, digest, individual, whatever), the message would be emailed to them after they initiated the call.

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Allow Members to Be Able to Set Photos Sort Options #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 07:46 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've changed the default sort for both the album view as well as within each album to be most recent first. This is how Flickr does it, and I think that's what everyone's asking for?
If the last sentence is true then IMHO it reinforces the old agage of "be careful what you ask for". I have spent a lot of time with "historical" photos within albums to put photos in a sensible order by renaming photos as 01:, 02:, etc up to nn when nn ≤ 99. The new convention has played havoc with that and the photos now appear in a more or less random order. Now I accept that as an individual I can set them back using Sort by Title^ but I would much prefer to be able to set a Group default for both Albums and Photos back to the way things were.

At the moment, from my group's viewpoint, this change has not been an improvement. .

Chris


moderated Re: improve/fix logging, etc., of "set display name via email" action #suggestion

 

Mark, just letting you (and anyone else who may be wondering about this) know that I can no longer find the example of nor reproduce this logging issue. I think the logging is fine and will not be emailing you at support. Thanks.
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J

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moderated Re: Yahoo appears to be cleaning house

Peter Rawbone
 

Is all Yahoo? In our group Yahoo.uk has been affected but .com not - so far.

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