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moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:59 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
what "the magic perms" are
I'm assuming (although Mark will correct me if necessary) the perms are the same ones that were needed to edit a message in a locked topic before this change. That should be the ability to lock and unlock topics and edit messages, which I think are all encompassed by "edit archives."
 
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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Frances
 

Just a query - so the main group members can now post to subgroups without moderation. If the box is ticked.  But the member would not get replies, correct?  Since I assume you don’t want the person to be part of the subgroup. 

Frances


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:36 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Owners/mods with the right perms can now edit messages in locked topics.
Might you share what "the magic perms" are?   I definitely don't know though I'm not a group owner, but I feel certain that there are others who may not who are themselves group owners.
 
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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Dave B.
 

It's all good.


moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

 

I guess begging and pleading works! lol
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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Dave B.
 

This is great.  Thanks so much!


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

Yay! Thanks, Mark!
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moderated Re: Embed image within text

Bob Bellizzi
 

Have you tried starting a new line of centered text and placing the image there?
Then continuing on with left justified text?
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moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 7:11 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
This is now a *desperate plea* to allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic. Not to post in them, necessarily (although I would not object to that either). Just to be able to edit, say, even *one word* of *one message* in a locked topic without moderating the topic so that you can unlock it first so that you can edit the message and then unlocking it. This is a GIANT PITA and it happens at least once a week.

Owners/mods with the right perms can now edit messages in locked topics.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

 

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 PM Dave B. <orf1000@...> wrote:
We desperately need for a subgroup to be able to unmoderate addresses in the main group.  This doesn't seem to be unreasonable, but it does not seem to be possible at this time.  We can't have members of the main group joining the subgroup, but they do need to be able to write to the subgroup without moderation.  They cannot have privy to all of the subgroup traffic, just be able to send to it.

Subgroups now have a checkbox 'Allow Parent Subs To Post' that, when checked, will allow parent subscribers who are not members of the subgroup to post to the subgroup without their messages being moderated.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Dave B.
 

Is there any way to beg and plead for the addition of functionality in Groups.io?  Specifically, that when I click on "Approve and Unmoderate" from a subgroup it will unmoderate an address in the main group?  For the user that would be a much more straightforward solution. 

Thanks for everyone's' help and comments.

Dave


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

ps ‘Simple’ streamlining but extremely value-adding.


On Feb 14, 2019, at 9:13 AM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

I get it! Just trying to ward off a deja vu situation. I’ll add that the posting ability and permission exists, too, just like editing, and is simply cumbersome now. So all I (we) are really requesting is some simple streamlining. No real change in functionality at all!


On Feb 14, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

J,

    What Mark may or may not choose to implement shouldn't change what one requests.

    I'm still requesting whether I get it or not.

 Also, and does history here bear this out, whether or not anyone agrees with a given request or not when it has no "side effects" isn't relevant, either.

None of the above should be considered as a criticism of you, as that's not the intent.
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     I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

           ~ Jay Gould, U.S. financier & railroad robber baron (1836 - 1892)


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

I get it! Just trying to ward off a deja vu situation. I’ll add that the posting ability and permission exists, too, just like editing, and is simply cumbersome now. So all I (we) are really requesting is some simple streamlining. No real change in functionality at all!


On Feb 14, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

J,

    What Mark may or may not choose to implement shouldn't change what one requests.

    I'm still requesting whether I get it or not.

 Also, and does history here bear this out, whether or not anyone agrees with a given request or not when it has no "side effects" isn't relevant, either.

None of the above should be considered as a criticism of you, as that's not the intent.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 

     I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

           ~ Jay Gould, U.S. financier & railroad robber baron (1836 - 1892)


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

J,

    What Mark may or may not choose to implement shouldn't change what one requests.

    I'm still requesting whether I get it or not.

 Also, and does history here bear this out, whether or not anyone agrees with a given request or not when it has no "side effects" isn't relevant, either.

None of the above should be considered as a criticism of you, as that's not the intent.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 

     I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

           ~ Jay Gould, U.S. financier & railroad robber baron (1836 - 1892)


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

ps by ‘difficult navigation when the thread is old,’ I mean the cumbersome (time-consuming, frustrating) back-and-forth required when the thread is several pages down in the chrono list.


On Feb 14, 2019, at 8:50 AM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Brian, I’m with you (more than I can say) but let’s please not rehash the entire crazy thread from before! I am only asking for editing capability. I will only add here a statement of the obvious: the functionality (and permission) already exists but is currently a humongous PITA to get to, especially given the inconvenient navigation back and forth that’s required to do all the steps (moderate, unlock, edit, relock) when the thread is old.

 I’m not going to argue here for posting ability as well and then shield mg eyes from the deluge of ‘why would anybody want to post to a locked topic’ messages again, even though the same arguments in favor of allowing it apply. My request is limited to the simple scope of just editing. 😊


On Feb 14, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Seconded!  It only makes sense to allow moderators/owners to post to locked topics, too.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 

     I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

           ~ Jay Gould, U.S. financier & railroad robber baron (1836 - 1892)


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

Brian, I’m with you (more than I can say) but let’s please not rehash the entire crazy thread from before! I am only asking for editing capability. I will only add here a statement of the obvious: the functionality (and permission) already exists but is currently a humongous PITA to get to, especially given the inconvenient navigation back and forth that’s required to do all the steps (moderate, unlock, edit, relock) when the thread is old.

 I’m not going to argue here for posting ability as well and then shield mg eyes from the deluge of ‘why would anybody want to post to a locked topic’ messages again, even though the same arguments in favor of allowing it apply. My request is limited to the simple scope of just editing. 😊


On Feb 14, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Seconded!  It only makes sense to allow moderators/owners to post to locked topics, too.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 

     I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

           ~ Jay Gould, U.S. financier & railroad robber baron (1836 - 1892)


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Seconded!  It only makes sense to allow moderators/owners to post to locked topics, too.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 

     I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

           ~ Jay Gould, U.S. financier & railroad robber baron (1836 - 1892)


moderated Re: Embed image within text

KWKloeber
 

Rex 
some email applications strip out images and attach them. We’ve also found instances where imbedded images get stripped (the dreaded X broken image icon shows up) and are gone forever. It seems that imbedded images and email, are about as reliable as the olden day’s of win 3.1 reliability talking to modems. A box of chocolates 🍫 


moderated Re: please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 07:11 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
and then unlocking it
should read "and then relocking it"
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated please allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic

 

Mark,

I'm starting a new thread for this because IIRC the old one, or ones, got hopelessly sidetracked.

This is now a *desperate plea* to allow moderators to edit messages in a locked topic. Not to post in them, necessarily (although I would not object to that either). Just to be able to edit, say, even *one word* of *one message* in a locked topic without moderating the topic so that you can unlock it first so that you can edit the message and then unlocking it. This is a GIANT PITA and it happens at least once a week.

Thanks for considering relaxing the lock function to at least that minimal extent!
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu