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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

 

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:33 PM, Dave B. wrote:
Board members should not see moderation requests or need to do any extraordinary bcc'ing.  Their focus is on the business of the Board, not on making the email system work a certain way. 
Moderators do not have to see any moderation requests, nor do they have to do, or receive, ANYTHING except emails addressed to the group owner address.

If you are concerned with them seeing only each initial message from homeowners, making them main-group moderators accomplishes exactly that with no further ado, including bcc'ing.

If on the other hand you anticipate longer conversations beyond a single initial message sent by a homeowner, they would simply have to check "bcc all moderators" on their response.

I can't answer your question as to why your feature is available in yahoo but not here, but I do think that meanwhile, if you plan to stay in groups.io, making the board members into group owners with extremely limited moderator permissions is a reasonable workaround for you. I would suggest familiarizing yourself with moderator permissions.
 
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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Dave B.
 

I appreciate everyone's thoughts here, but I'm not sure everyone understands what I've said or appreciates the challenge of our situation.  I never said that we needed people from outside the group to post to the group, we simply want unit owners -- members of the main group -- to be able to post to the Board subgroup without moderation.  Absolutely disallowing this seems to be an unreasonable restriction.  Seems like it should be a configuration option.  Of course, if there's a reasonable workaround (invisible to the Board) we would go that way, but so far the suggestions add burdens to the Board members that they're not willing to carry.  For example, Board members should not see moderation requests or need to do any extraordinary bcc'ing.  Their focus is on the business of the Board, not on making the email system work a certain way. 

I'm posting here because I believe that it's a reasonable request that an option be provided for main group members to post to the subgroup without moderation.  This was not a problem for us when we were with Yahoo Groups.  (We are otherwise glad to be done with them...)  I'm actually curious to know why this isn't an option already.

Thanks,
Dave 


moderated Re: Embed image within text

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Rex,

yes,  just copy your image to clipboard and paste it in where needed, like so:



Regards,
Andy


moderated Embed image within text

Rex Chadwell
 

Is there a way to embed an image within text? If that's not clear:
   Blah, blah, blah, text
   .jpg
   Blah, blah, blah, text

Currently my .jpg ends up being an attachment at the bottom of the message.
Thanks,
Rex


moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

 

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:56 AM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
essentially the Board "owns" the homeowners' message board,
I agree with this and that's why I, too, suggested simply making the board members owners or moderators of the main group. You'd have to bcc all moderators (aka board members) on any subsequent messages in the conversation beyond the first one, instead of having the whole conversation automatically go to the subgroup. But at least the whole board would automatically receive the first message sent by the homeowner, with no problem of moderation.
 
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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Bob Bellizzi
 

It would seem to me that only members and not "anybody" should be able to post to the main (homeowners') group
Why would you wish the world to be able to post to your homeowners' group?
If someone wished to contact your homeowner's group they could write to groupname+owner@...
which is listed on the home page of each group.

Board members should also be members of the main group but as Moderators &/or owners.
They wouldn't have to receive emails except possibly Special Notices, in fact, they would most likely 
utilize those for announcements and could also control and use the calendar to notify homeowners' 
of dates of major interest to the homeowners.

Board members only should be members of the subgroup.
You should allow all members of the main group post without moderation which would relieve the burden of moderation.
But, essentially the Board "owns" the homeowners' message board, controls it and is responsible for its maintenance 
and proper running.
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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Frances
 

Could members of the subgroup - the "Board" - monitor the main group?
Use the subgroup to discuss things?
Forward anything that the full subgroup - the "Board" - needs to know to the subgroup.
Or do the messages for the subgroup require privacy?

This may not work for you, but I wonder if you should look at how you are using your groups. 

Frances


moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Dave B.
 

Sharon, thanks for your thoughts.  I have always checked "Allow Non Subscribers to Post," but posts from non-members of the subgroup still require moderation, even if they are members of the main group.  Did I miss something?


Re: Integration message moderation change

 

Hi All,

I have reverted the change to how integration/notification messages are handled. Now, as originally, they do not obey the group moderation setting. I think this was the most straightforward solution, as you can use hashtag settings to moderate them.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Yahoo Group exports

Bill Burns <ftldny@...>
 

On 2/13/2019 3:21 AM, dave w via Groups.Io wrote:
While I understand the needs for commerce and a subscription basis, it is disappointing right now.
I am not wealthy at all and have been just cajoling a couple of other hobby groups to come over. Both have been devastated to some extent by membership attrition and the continually failing and limited facility provided by Y*.
In essence these groups have a small number of members (less than 100) and a small but to them valuable amount of records/ messages/ photos and documents about interest to their hobby. I'm sure we will not be able to shift under these circumstances.
I'm sure we wouldn't be unique, but understand the commercial necessity.
Regards
Dave W
Owner
Perhaps you could ask on your existing Yahoo groups if members could kick in a couple of dollars each to pay for the move, which is all it would take.

When I moved one of my groups last year I had to go Premium, as we had several hundred thousand messages. Even with just about thirty active members at that point, I had enough offers of support to easily pay the $110 for a year's subscription.

It's a move that we've all agreed was very worthwhile.

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Bill


moderated Re: Advanced Search Functionality - Is it coming? #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

If regular expressions are actually supported, it would be really helpful to know what flavor/syntax (see: https://regex101.com/) is required.

I put this here since Mark may see it and be able to answer the question easily and quickly. 
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moderated Re: Advanced Search Functionality - Is it coming? #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:48 PM, Drew wrote:
But I have tried a few regex in my group's search box and they don't work.
I have tried a few POSIX expressions and can confirm that several are not recognized. The * and ? wildcards appear to work, as do quoted phrases. I've not experimented with it beyond that. See https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Using-the-Search-Engine. Further discussion of existing features should be carried out in GMF. 

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Yahoo Group exports

dave w
 

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 03:45 AM, Duane wrote:
so very little from Yahoo was needed. 
Duane/ Mark
While I understand the needs for commerce and a subscription basis, it is disappointing right now.
I am not wealthy at all and have been just cajoling a couple of other hobby groups to come over. Both have been devastated to some extent by membership attrition and the continually failing and limited facility provided by Y*.

In essence these groups have a small number of members (less than 100) and a small but to them valuable amount of records/ messages/ photos and documents about interest to their hobby. I'm sure we will not be able to shift under these circumstances.

I'm sure we wouldn't be unique, but understand the commercial necessity.
Regards
Dave W
Owner


moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Sharon Villines
 

On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:22 PM, Dave B. <orf1000@gmail.com> wrote:

We are a condo HOA. The unit owners constitute the main group and the Board is the subgroup. When unit owners write to the Board, each message must be moderated. This doesn't make sense. We have a constant stream of messages requiring moderation, and it's driving us nuts.
I have the same situation. What I’ve done is leave the groups set to anyone can post. The lists are private and not listed in the directory so the chance of anyone finding them is slight. If a spammer does find them, we’ll have to change. In the meantime it isn’t causing a problem.

Sharon
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Sharon Villines
In Washington DC, Where all roads lead to Casablanca


moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

 

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:28 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
What if you made all the subgroup members group moderators
this should read

What if you made all the subgroup members main-group moderators
 
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moderated Re: Is there any hope on unmoderation?

 

What if you made all the subgroup members group moderators (with limited permissions, as appropriate)? Then main-group members could simply send messages to the group owner address, Those wouldn't be moderated. I might not completely understand the situation, but this seems like at least a workaround.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Is there any hope on unmoderation?

Dave B.
 

We desperately need for a subgroup to be able to unmoderate addresses in the main group.  This doesn't seem to be unreasonable, but it does not seem to be possible at this time.  We can't have members of the main group joining the subgroup, but they do need to be able to write to the subgroup without moderation.  They cannot have privy to all of the subgroup traffic, just be able to send to it.

We are a condo HOA.  The unit owners constitute the main group and the Board is the subgroup.  When unit owners write to the Board, each message must be moderated.  This doesn't make sense.  We have a constant stream of messages requiring moderation, and it's driving us nuts. 

Is there a reason this can't be done?  Is there hope that it will be changed? 

We did try setting up a separate group account for the Board as well.  That doesn't help, because all messages from the unit owners to the Board still need moderation.

Thanks,
Dave Brown


moderated Re: Slack integration affected by sub-group setup?

 

Does anyone know?  I am just trying to find out if the subgroup structure affects the Slack integration.  Group leaders on the group managers group sent me here because they didn't know.  Is Slack still supported?  It is a wonderful feature but I need to know how subgroups affects it before I launch a site. 

Thank you

Rob


moderated Re: Advanced Search Functionality - Is it coming? #suggestion

Drew
 

Thanks, Duane- I missed that. But I have tried a few regex in my group's search box and they don't work. There is probably some special syntax but I haven't been able to find any information. Anyone know?

Drew

On 02/12/19 16:50, Duane wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 03:38 PM, Drew wrote:
Would love to have regex capable search in Groups.io but I suppose
that is probably out of the question.
By my reading, that should already exist since there was a 'fix' just a couple of weeks ago: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/19648
Duane


moderated Re: Advanced Search Functionality - Is it coming? #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 03:38 PM, Drew wrote:
Would love to have regex capable search in Groups.io but I suppose that is probably out of the question.
By my reading, that should already exist since there was a 'fix' just a couple of weeks ago: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/19648

Duane

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