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moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

dave w
 

This should be fixed now.
 
Thanks,
Mark

Top man Mark. Excellent. Big Thumbs UP!!!
davew


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Tom Vail
 

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 09:18 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
There are event organizer/phone number fields in the event. Those get sent in the reminders. The person who created the event is displayed when you view the event on the website.
 
Yes, but there is not a way to link to the member's profile as the "By" link does.  All I'm suggesting it you make the new field optional, with a default of off.

Thanks for your consideration.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 10:26 PM Dave Sergeant <dave@...> wrote:
On 26 Oct 2018 at 21:12, Mark Fletcher wrote:

> NEW: When viewing an event, show the person who created the event. -
> NEW: Added event organizer information to event reminder emails.

Is the event organiser a new piece of information we input when we
create an event, or is it just the person who created the event - ie
are these the same person?

There are event organizer/phone number fields in the event. Those get sent in the reminders. The person who created the event is displayed when you view the event on the website.

Cheers,
Mark


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Tom Vail
 

Hi Mark,

While the idea of including the "By" on the calendar is likely a good idea for some, maybe most, it is a very bad idea in our application.  We have a single person doing most of the calendar entries, but they are not the one responsible for the event.  Linking to their name will only cause confusion among the troops!

I would like to suggest that this be an option on the Event build page and default to "Do not show By Name."  

With that said, having the ability to supply another member in the "By Name" field would be helpful for us and accomplish what I believe you were trying to do originally.

Thanks for all you do.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: #databases

Duane
 

This was indeed a bug and has been fixed:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/18889

BUGFIX: For tables with HTML Paragraph columns that were not the first column, the HTML edit widget was not properly initialized when adding/editing a row.
Duane


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Dave Sergeant
 

On 26 Oct 2018 at 21:12, Mark Fletcher wrote:

NEW: When viewing an event, show the person who created the event. -
NEW: Added event organizer information to event reminder emails.
Is the event organiser a new piece of information we input when we
create an event, or is it just the person who created the event - ie
are these the same person?

I have created events on our group (in that I added them to groups.io)
but I am certainly not the 'organiser' of those events and hardly want
this to be stated in the reminder emails. In our case there is no
organiser, the events (on-air amateur radio gatherings) just happen and
who ever is around joins in.

Dave

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • CHANGE: Changed the Action menu in the Members page, pulling email delivery and moderation options into dialogs. This makes the Actions dropdown smaller, so it works better on mobile, and is preparation for other options being added.
  • NEW: When viewing an event, show the person who created the event.
  • NEW: Added event organizer information to event reminder emails.
  • CHANGE: Changed how messages are sorted in digests. We now sort by date and then group by topic, which is slightly different from before. Now, the date of the first message we're showing in the topic determines the sort order of the topic, not the date of the first message ever in the topic.
  • BUGFIX: We were not properly escaping newlines in the DESCRIPTION field in ICS files.
  • BUGFIX: For tables with HTML Paragraph columns that were not the first column, the HTML edit widget was not properly initialized when adding/editing a row.
  • CHANGE: When viewing a photo, the links to next/previous photos now extend the full height of the photo.
  • BUGFIX: The Subscribe to Calendar button was improperly disabled for some subgroups.
  • BUGFIX: Fix table csv imports of addresses, where the city field was being populated by the address line 2.
  • CHANGE: Only display the Email link on a member's profile if the group's directory is visible to members.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Calendar start day option?

ro-esp
 

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:45 PM, Michael Morris wrote:


Firstly, (after years of Yahoo hell) can I say how brilliant to have a
newsgroup that works!
small sidenote: I've been told that whatever group we have here, it is NOT a "newsgroup". Newsgroups worked different technically.
I'm not educated enough to explain the difference though... ("usenet"? Several servers?)

groetjes, Ronaldo


moderated OT: groups.io has spoiled me

 

This morning I was driving along and my car’s ‘wiper fluid is low’ warning appeared on the dash, with the sound of a bell ringing. Fine, but then it dinged AGAIN and continued to ding about every couple of minutes for the whole ride. My immediate and (at first) unconscious thought was just to put in a request for a feature where the driver can press a button to indicate they got the message and the warnings should stop. It took me a nanosecond to realize, oh wait, this is not Groups.io beta! I can’t request that! This has become a common occurrence for me with anything technological. I am spoiled 😊


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Calendar start day option?

David Haun
 

Yes, I would also like the option to start the week on Monday. Thanks, David


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Marina wrote:
Thank you, Bruce. I must admit that I am still struggling with the concept and trying to figure out the practical use of both options.
I created a hashtag with the "reply only to sender" option that I intend to use for requests for articles for our newsletter. In such a case, I want everyone to know that the newsletter deadline is coming soon but I want actual submissions to come only to me (I edit the newsletter).

Similar needs have arisen in our group in the past so the ability to apply this hashtag is a welcome addition. Both options, of course, put the sender's address (not the group address) in the "reply-to" field of each message header; but only the new "reply only to sender" option (which is not available via a group setting) actually blocks attempts to send to the group.

Further discussion on this should probably either be moved to GMF, or posted to the original thread.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Wish List

Dave B.
 

Bob, Barb -- thanks for your thoughts, but I’m not sure you understand our problem.   As recommended by someone else, I posted this message to the Beta group in the hope that some additional flexibility will be added to Groups.io in an upcoming version – consistent with some flexibility that exists in Yahoo Groups and Google Groups.  (Yes, Groups.io has a richness of features that are not found in either Yahoo or Googlegroups, but not in this situation -- from what I can tell.)

 

Our organization needs to be able to unmoderate mail from outside the group or subgroup.   Either people in the main group can be unmoderated when writing to the subgroup or people writing to the separate Board group.   I could do that in Yahoo and Google Groups, but apparently not in Groups.io.

I've tried having the Board both as a separate group and as a subgroup, and we're stuck either way.  I haven’t been able to unmoderate mail from HOA unit owners into the Board group/subgroup or from outside contractors into the Board group/subgroup.

In Google Groups and Yahoo, I can configure my groups such that if I get a message from someone anywhere outside the group, it will be accepted without moderation.  I can open and close this feature at will.  In years gone by, the moderator for a Google group would get a message requesting moderation for an outside email, and it would include an option to accept further messages from that address without moderation.  I don’t see that now in my Google groups, but a feature like this would be excellent in Groups.io.  (It looks like there's a stub for that feature in the "accept" moderation dialog.)

Dave


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Michael Pavan
 

"Reply only to Sender" actively blocks posts in the same thread that
subscribers attempt to send back to the group. "Reply to Sender" does not.
I have "Reply to Sender” set as the default in my groups to be informative, not chatty; but it seems some people go out of their way to “Reply to Group” anyway, even though our Message Footer says:
| PLEASE BE CONSIDERATE:
| Replies are set to only go to the original sender, as RSVPs, 'me too's, 'I don't know's, and such rarely need to be sent to everyone.

So I think I like the "Reply Only to Sender” option.
I do wonder if those people will then create a New Topic to get around the "Reply Only to Sender”, which would not only subject the group to their misdirected replies, but also split the ’Topic’ into 2 or more ‘Topics’…

I must admit that I am still struggling with the concept and trying to figure out the practical use of both options.
It depends on the nature of your group "Reply to Sender” and "Reply Only to Sender” could help keep down the ‘noise of chatter’; however if you want everyone’s every thought to be heard, then set your group’s messages to “Reply to Group”.


moderated Calendar start day option?

Michael Morris
 

Firstly, (after years of Yahoo hell) can I say how brilliant to have a newsgroup that works!
Each week in our group's calendar starts on a Sunday.  This is very confusing as here in the UK, modern convention is to start the week on Monday.  Is it possible to have an option to set the start of the week as either on Sunday or Monday?

Thanks


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Marina
 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 05:08 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:


"Reply only to Sender" actively blocks posts in the same thread that
subscribers attempt to send back to the group. "Reply to Sender" does not. 
Thank you, Bruce. I must admit that I am still struggling with the concept and trying to figure out the practical use of both options.

Best regards,
Marina


moderated Re: Wish List

Barb M
 

Agree with Bob. We did the same thing - it seemed logical to have just one group and branch off from there, but it really created more problems for us. It was far easier to just have a totally separate group - that way we could have Settings for the Board (like your external contractor messages) without regard to the "Main Group." One thing I am glad I thought of, though: I named the Board group starting with the word "Board." So instead of being e.g. HOA Board, it's "Board HOA." Starting it with "Board" helped immensely for the Board members to not accidentally send to the main group when they were aiming at Board communication!

Of course, "one size doesn't fit all" which is why Groups is so flexible. You may just have to try out a couple of things to see what works best for your particular group!

Barb


moderated Re: Suggestion: Ability to Bulk Add a hashtag to a Search Results list

 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 05:28 PM, Bart Fried wrote:

Currently, hashtags can be added to archived topics, which is useful, but cumbersome because it is done one-by-one. Having the ability to run a key word search and then select the entire results list so that a hashtag can be bulk added would be a very useful tool for large archives that have been ported over from Yahoo, Google, etc.  

That's definitely on the TODO list. You can bulk modify hashtags on your archives right now (not in search results), by appending '-test' to the topics URL of your group (like https://groups.io/g/EXAMPLE/topics-test'). I have not made that page the default topics page yet for a couple of reasons:

  • That page makes it easy to bulk delete topics, and there's currently no recourse after doing so mistakenly. I need to implement a trash folder or some other undelete system. Unfortunately that's quite a bit of work and I haven't gotten to it yet.
  • Bulk operations on a lot of topics takes a relatively long time right now. I need to work on optimizing that, or set up some sort of background processing. Again, it's complicated and I haven't gotten to it yet.

Once those issues are solved, I can do a similar thing to search results.

Thanks, Mark


moderated Suggestion: Ability to Bulk Add a hashtag to a Search Results list

Bart Fried
 

Currently, hashtags can be added to archived topics, which is useful, but cumbersome because it is done one-by-one. Having the ability to run a key word search and then select the entire results list so that a hashtag can be bulk added would be a very useful tool for large archives that have been ported over from Yahoo, Google, etc.
 
Our group has 17k topics and close to 40k individual posts. The ability to retroactively add hashtags in bulk would let us categorize topics by genres, allowing different types of searches than with specific keywords.
 
Bart


moderated Re: Wish List

Bob Bellizzi
 

I'm sure I posted this before to you;  don't bother with a subgroup, make the Board a separate group.  No cross traffic,  Board Members may be members of both groups
And even unmoderated in both groups or any  of the other 3 binary conditions can apply.
You can always unmoderate senders within any specific group but you can't do it globally among the groups you control and neither can they.

Much of what's currently available in groups.io was never available in Yahoo.

Groups.io has a great deal of flexibility as is. 

Whitelisting any specific addfress   I think you need to be more specific.  I would interpret this to mean any subscriber.  As long as the subscriber is valid and unmoderated, they are essentially whitelisted.

--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Wish List

Dave B.
 

We are struggling with the need for more flexibility in moderation.  We are a condo HOA, with one group for our Board and one group for the unit owners.  We need to keep the Board separate from the unit owners, so email to the board from owners need moderation.  Also, there are sometimes steady streams of email to the board from external contractors.  The load of messages requiring moderation becomes overwhelming.

We tried a subgroup for the Board, but the moderation requirements are no different than for a standalone group.  Any of the following would help us greatly:

  • The ability to whitelist any specific address.  (The moderation approval dialog seems to indicate senders can be unmoderated, but when you select that option, it doesn't work.)
  • If external addresses can't be unmoderated, then the ability to unmoderate senders within Groups.io
  • The ability to allow members of the Main group to write to a subgroup without moderation.
Attention to these requested feature would be greatly appreciated.  Maybe these have been proposed before, but I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
Dave Brown