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moderated Moderator privileges

 

I don’t plan to check the activity logs for a number of groups all of the time to try to keep up with numerous moderators. It just seems safer to limit what moderators can do instead of babysitting.

 

Beth,

That´s exactly the way I feel too. I strongly support this wish. Additionally I´d really like to see an automatic owner notification when members or moderators upload files, photos or links.

Victoria


moderated Re: Moderator privileges

Beth Weld
 

Thank you,
I know that you can see right after a change has been made, but I don’t plan to check the activity logs for a number of groups all of the time to try to keep up with numerous moderators. It just seems safer to limit what moderators can do instead of babysitting.


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: When direct adding someone to a parent group and at least one subgroup that has a direct add message, we weren't not sending out the subgroup's direct add message.
  • BUGFIX: When adding a member to a subgroup, we weren't including the direct add message, if one was set.
  • BUGFIX: For groups set to moderate messages with attachments, the Emailed Photos album would not show up.
  • BUGFIX: For certain database table searches, only the first page would be displayed. Other pages would be blank.
  • API: Return group_name with subscriptions.
  • CHANGE: For pending message notification emails, add a link at the top to view the message online.
  • CHANGE: If a topic has a tag that is moderated, make sure we display the moderated icon in the Topics view for that topic.
  • CHANGE: Updated the list of not permitted groups on the create group page.
  • NEW: First pass at a help section for the upcoming group payments system.
  • CHANGE: For the event and reminder emails, for all day events that last more than one day, show both start and end days (we previously only showed the start day).
  • BUGFIX: For a pending message sent from a subscriber who then unsubscribes before the pending message is viewed, do not show the View Member/Send Message buttons.
  • BUGFIX: When editing a database row, when you return to view the previous page, the per page setting was ignored.
  • BUGFIX: If a topic is locked and has a hashtag that is set to reply to sender only, replying on the website was not permitted.
  • BUGFIX: The web server would crash when viewing a past member that had been subscribed to a subgroup that no longer exists.
  • NEW: In HTML digests, there are now hashtag mute links in the message footers. I also did some editing of the text of the other links, removing some words to make space.
  • NEW: In the group Hashtags page, each hashtag now has a Mute/Unmute link.
  • CHANGE: Reformatted the mute/unmute hashtag pages to match modern style.
  • BUGFIX: If you are the owner/moderator of a parent group viewing a poll in a subgroup that you are not subscribed to, you should not be permitted to vote in the poll, because votes are keyed to subscription records.
  • BUGFIX: If multiple owners voted in a subgroup poll, the count and display would be off in the View By Answer poll view (only one owner's vote(s) would be displayed).

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


Re: Strip Out Embedded images #suggestion

 

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

As you may know, images can be embedded in HTML formatted messages using a few different schemes, only one of which ("cid") would be subjected to the existing group Attachments control, and apparently that is also the only scheme that gets listed in the Emailed Photos folder. https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/11066

We should be automatically converting data: images into cid: attachments, which should then appear in Emailed Photos. If there are instances of that not happening, please send me a pointer to them at support as that's a bug.

Thanks, Mark


Re: Strip Out Embedded images #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Um, I would still would like a group option to do this, for reasons already mentioned.

Just trying to divert things before a heated discussion breaks out over the Oxford comma. :-)

Bruce


moderated Re: Language

Walter Underwood
 

English compounding varies over time. Decades ago, “data base” was correct, then “data-base”, and now we use “database”. The AP Style Guide insisted on using “web site” until April 2010, when they allowed “website”. Both “baby sitter” and “babysitter” are correct.

When working on the Netflix search engine several years ago, I needed to add about three hundred synonyms to handle the “one word or two?” problem, things like Fullmetal Alchemist and Full Metal Jacket. My favorite was the movie Ghostbusters. Though Hollywood is famously picky about trademarks, the poster has that as a single word and the title sequence has that split into two words on two lines, “Ghost Busters”.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

On Oct 12, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Ken Kloeber via Groups.Io <KWKloeber@...> wrote:

I’ll fight to the death that proper grammar and structure are important and should be retained no matter.  For instance, one does not know when something may become unclear (to someone else.) What’s the big deal about doing something properly, too much work? More likely ignorance is bliss. 
We all know what it means when getting a txt or email like “Their going to meet us at the restaurant.”  Or “Your a valued customer.”  It doesn’t make it any more palatable jus cuz you know what was meant. 
A compound adjective is a compound adjective. Period (or en dash.)



moderated Re: Language

 

Hi All,

As a language nerd myself, I certainly enjoy an extended discussion on language. But this is not the group for that. Please take it off-line.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Language

KWKloeber
 

I’ll fight to the death that proper grammar and structure are important and should be retained no matter.  For instance, one does not know when something may become unclear (to someone else.) What’s the big deal about doing something properly, too much work? More likely ignorance is bliss. 
We all know what it means when getting a txt or email like “Their going to meet us at the restaurant.”  Or “Your a valued customer.”  It doesn’t make it any more palatable jus cuz you know what was meant. 
A compound adjective is a compound adjective. Period (or en dash.)


moderated Re: Language

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 05:40 PM, ro-esp wrote:
I never heard of en dashes and em dashes and thought they were the same as hyphens....
Most do and would.  The distinction is much more one of typesetting, where their length is ever so slightly different.  I know of very few people who don't interpret a small black line between two words, or a prefix and a word, as needed regardless of what typesetting convention was used for it, including hyphen.
 
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moderated Re: Language

 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 02:53 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
(not em dash)
...or en dash, take your choice. (Em dashes and en dashes, too, are slightly different from each other.)
Bottom line, no hyphen, en dash, or em dash is required here.
 
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J

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moderated Re: Language

 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 02:40 PM, ro-esp wrote:
Gender based should have a en dash.
I had to look up that one. I never heard of en dashes and em dashes and thought they were the same as hyphens..
The complaint should have been that "gender based" requires a hyphen, not an em dash. So that's the first problem. Second, the hyphen is NOT required. Not any more, according to AP style and other style conventions. Hyphens are going out of style to the extent that they should be left out except where the meaning is unclear. The meaning is perfectly clear in this case, so the hypen (not em dash) is unnecessary.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Language

ro-esp
 

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 05:42 AM, J_Catlady wrote:

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 07:58 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:
Gender based should have a en dash.
I had to look up that one. I never heard of en dashes and em dashes and thought they were the same as hyphens....

It's a style issue.
No it's not. It's a matter of clarity. "gender-based/genderbased" is one word, an adjective. "gender" is a noun, "based" is a verbform, a participle.
"overpopulated/over-populated" is one word, not two

They're going out of style, and I would not use unless
meaning is unclear. I'm fine without it.
I'm not. Excessive use of spaces is killing clarity, both in English and Dutch.

groetjes, Ronaldo


moderated thumbing-up messages in a locked thread

ro-esp
 

I recently saw a locked thread, and noticed I could no "like" any messages. Is this intentional or coincidence?

If intentional, what's the rationale behind it?

groetjes, Ronaldo


moderated Re: Moderator privileges

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

If you want to know what moderator did what, you can look in the activity log for your group.

On Oct 12, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Beth Weld <bethweld77@gmail.com> wrote:

It would be very helpful to be able to limit what a moderator can do in terms of files, photos, databases, and wikis. Right now the moderator permissions don't control those by individual, and while someone might need to be able to upload files they might not need to be able to create a table as an example. It seems to be all or nothing for these items, and that could make changes very difficult to track in the future.
Thanks
Beth


moderated Moderator privileges

Beth Weld
 

It would be very helpful to be able to limit what a moderator can do in terms of files, photos, databases, and wikis.  Right now the moderator permissions don't control those by individual, and while someone might need to be able to upload files they might not need to be able to create a table as an example.  It seems to be all or nothing for these items, and that could make changes very difficult to track in the future.
Thanks
Beth


moderated Re: Suggestion: Ability to send PM from a member's profile page #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
add in the figleafing of e-mail addresses in the forum interface
There was an option added awhile back that can take care of this on the groups you own/moderate.  You can show full email addresses in a group by selecting that option at Settings, Privacy, Hide Email Addresses In Archives.  If the archives are public, non-members will still see the figleaf, but members that are signed in will see the email address.  When the option was added, it defaulted to masking because that's what it had been.

Duane


moderated Comma separated addresses for Invite

Walter Underwood
 

I just edited an email “To” line with 28 addresses to be one address per line so I could send invitations. I probably should have done that with query-replace in Emacs, but it would be even better if the Invite box also accepted comma-separated addresses.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)


moderated Re: Suggestion: Ability to send PM from a member's profile page #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

And when you add in the figleafing of e-mail addresses in the forum interface, it becomes a real nightmare.

I cannot count the number of times where someone has, through the e-mail interface, offered an e-mail address that I still have no access to since I have the "No email" option set for all groups I am on, except when testing.  And it does no good at all to switch to e-mail delivery after the fact and then have to ask for it to be repeated again, as that gets annoying to the group at large and the person who's already given the information.

Not that I'm expecting it will change, ever, but I will go on record again that I despise the figleafing of e-mail addresses on the web interface.  We all have spam trapping and it's a myth that any e-mail address is private in any meaningful sense of the word private.  Once it's drifted through cyberspace just by being used to send e-mail it can be sniffed out by anyone wanting to do so.
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moderated Calander

David Haun
 

I am extremely happy with groups.io and think the CALENDAR the best around.  There was a comment a few months ago about the option of having the first day of the week being Monday.  Is that still under consideration?
David


moderated Re: Approval link ABOVE pending message? #suggestion

Max H.
 

Awesome, I can't believe how fast that was! Thanks, Mark!

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