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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 6:58 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:
Is this possible now? the ability for group owners to charge
subscriptions to groups. If so, how do I access this?

Not yet. It's quite a bit of work to implement, so it'll be a few more weeks. I hope to have the help section done next week so that everyone can review it and give feedback.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Is this possible now? the ability for group owners to charge subscriptions to groups. If so, how do I access this?


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: In some instances emailed images were not appearing in the Emailed Photos folder. Also reindexed the message archive.
  • INTERNAL: Work on adding the ability for group owners to charge subscriptions to groups.
  • CHANGE: When converting inline images into attachments, verify that a valid media type is specified before doing the conversion.
  • CHANGE: Members now have 7 days instead of 3 days to auto-resubscribe after having been removed because of spam reports.
  • INTERNAL: Fixed SSL certificate renew mechanism.
  • NEW: New activity log messages for when a member sends a message with a new tag (in a group where new tags are restricted), a message with a tag only moderators can use, and a message without any tags (where tags are required).
  • BUGFIX: For groups with attachments moderated, the add photo/add attachment buttons were not being displayed in the HTML editor.
  • CHANGE: Improved file search to allow for partial name matches.
  • BUGFIX: It was possible to ban a non-valid email address.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Automatic Transfer of LinkedIn Groups?

David Staudacher
 

I notice you have easy transfer options for Yahoo and Google Groups: 
http://groups.io/static/transfer
Any chance for a likewise easy transfer of LinkedIn groups? 
Recent disasterous changes to LinkedIn groups have hundreds of group managers hopping mad! 
Might be a great opportunity plus instantly greater visibility for groups.io as the groups champion who rescued groups LinkedIn "threw under the bus".   


moderated Re: Reply options #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

Shal, thanks for the background.  But are you saying that folks don't always think about which button they are clicking?  May it never be!  

But since that is reality, I can see the logic and am good with it.  It would be nice if the button was in line with the others on the left so it is more obvious and still require 2 steps.

As to recording the event in the activity log, I was not suggesting the message be recorded, just the fact that the system sent it.  It would only be available to moderators, so still be private to the general membership.  Having the event recorded can help moderators troubleshoot problems.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Reply options #suggestion

 

Tom,

I would like to suggest simplifying the process by eliminating the
private button and having 2 reply buttons, "Reply to Group & Sender"
and "Reply to Sender," hot when the settings are set to"Group and
Sender."
When the Private Reply (aka Direct Reply, aka Reply to Sender) feature was first implemented in the group's messages section it was done that way, two buttons for the user to choose from.
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/2182742

That raised a problem for some groups with Reply to Group as default: they reported that members were too often mistakenly hitting the wrong button, and a reply would go to the sender rather than the group. Then that replying member would complain about their message not posting. So this extra step and the physical separation was introduced to mitigate that concern.

Shal


moderated Re: Reply options #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Tom,

I like it the way it is with the two buttons. Typically I see "Reply to Group" and an option to send a private reply to the sender.

On the second point, I am definitely against your suggested change in functionality. The reason I use the Private reply is that I want to send only to the respondent and I do not want others knowing that. Hence, the term "Private".

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Gerald


moderated Reply options #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

When you reply to a message, if the reply settings are set to "Group & Sender" then the reply goes to both.  Although you can click on the "Private" button on the far right and it changes the reply button to "Reply to Sender."  

I would like to suggest simplifying the process by eliminating the private button and having 2 reply buttons, "Reply to Group & Sender" and "Reply to Sender," hot when the settings are set to"Group and Sender."  By having the option all the time, it would (okay might) make the sender think "Do I need to send this to the group, or just to the sender?"  Overall it could reduce the number of messages to the entire group, plus allow people to more easily communicate things which do not necessarily need to go to everyone.

It would also be nice if the sending of private messages were recorded in the activity log.  Not the message itself, but just the fact that it was sent.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Extend "Unsubscribed for spam" link expiration

Duane
 

I hope the email that is sent to members has been updated, too. ;>)

Duane


moderated Re: Extend "Unsubscribed for spam" link expiration

 

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:41 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
It has been suggested that the 3 day expiration of the resubscribe link be extended to 7 or 10 days.  Some folks don't check email daily, so may not see or find the notice for awhile and it could have expired.  Hopefully this would be a minor/easy change, but may reduce complaints for some users.

I've bumped it to 7 days.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Preview option in file upload dialog #suggestion

Marv Waschke
 

For me, this is "a feature in search of a purpose." I see these previews quite often lately in many applications and it seems like a waste of resources.

I suppose it is intended to stop folks from inadvertently uploading the wrong object, thereby using local resources to protect server resources, which makes some sense. But I personally have only been annoyed by previews. I might have appreciated it, perhaps, when I was submitting large documents into doc management systems like SharePoint and occasionally loaded the wrong version, but even then, I'm not sure a preview would have prevented the error. Others may have other experience.

Best, Marv


moderated make "disable other reply options" not apply to moderators #suggestion

 

I've disabled private replies in my group, but would often like to conveniently reply privately to a member myself, as the moderator. I suggest either automatically making "disable other reply options" not apply to moderators, or making it an option not to apply to moderators.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: icon for private-reply topics #suggestion

 

This is a related, but IMO extremely important, oversight: A topic tagged with a locked hashtag is clearly marked as locked. But a topic tagged with a moderated hashtag is NOT shown as moderated. Several times in a row, I thought a moderated hashtag was not working as expected because the icon didn't show up. But it always turns out that the thread IS moderated. You just can't see that it is.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Preview option in file upload dialog #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Duane wrote:
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Toby Kraft wrote:
Add a Preview checkbox to the dialog to enable/disable file preview.
This may also be useful for Photos.

Duane

I'd rather see the preview feature eliminated altogether for uploads.

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Gerald


moderated Re: Preview option in file upload dialog #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Toby Kraft wrote:
Add a Preview checkbox to the dialog to enable/disable file preview.
This may also be useful for Photos.

Duane


moderated Preview option in file upload dialog #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

When uploading one or many files, the dialog box does a preview of the file content.  (I never did understand how this is useful.  If you are uploading the file, you already know what is in it.)
Some files (.odt for one) are slow to preview or may cause errors.  Files are uploaded even if the preview has an error.
Add a Preview checkbox to the dialog to enable/disable file preview.
Thanks
Toby


moderated Re: Web-only group #suggestion

 

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 01:17 PM, Duane wrote:
I very clearly see the word OPTION included, so don't see what all the hubbub is about.
Me neither! This has gotten pretty crazy and I'm almost certain that there have been some severe misunderstandings going around. That's all I can say at this point.:)
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Web-only group #suggestion

Duane
 

In the initial post of this thread:

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 09:22 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
This is a suggestion for a ‘web only’ option for groups.
I very clearly see the word OPTION included, so don't see what all the hubbub is about.  If you want it, you use it.  If you don't want it, you don't use it.

Duane


moderated Re: Web-only group #suggestion

 

Jim,

On the other hand... and it's the point I've been making that never gets addressed
in any responses to me... I think it would be wrong if post/reply via
web-only were to be the ONLY option Groups.io offers if anonymous groups are
implemented.

I addressed that point by saying "I really don't care about that".

Being required to click through a View/Reply Online link doesn't trouble me very much. I see it as a minor inconvenience as compared to the value of having the anonymous feature at all (to those who would value it).
I might feel differently about that if I were still on dial-up or otherwise had limited connectivity; or if logging in to Groups.io required more than a handful of clicks every month.

Shal


moderated Re: Reading for Comprehension Before Responding

 

I’m sorry, Jim, we seem to keep misunderstanding each other. I’d be happy to take this offlist if you want to clarify.

On Oct 1, 2018, at 11:52 AM, Jim Higgins <HigginsJ@...> wrote:

Received from J_Catlady at 10/1/2018 06:41 PM UTC:

Groups.io does not offer anonymous groups right now and you're evidently fine with that. So your claim that you would be forced to go running back to yahoo groups if grouos.io did offer the feature but not in the form you'd prefer is illogical.

When are you going to start reading for comprehension before responding?

Jim H



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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu