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moderated Re: Removed for Spam suggestion #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

The verbiage would be different and, in the member's mind, they may not even know they got unsubscribed so would confuse them to get an invite to a group they are already in. 
Also, no subsequent welcome message.
But could coalesce both suggestions into single email - either link or reply would resubscribe.
Was thinking that having From: be the owner/mod sender would avoid message going into spam folder.
Another thought - email containing many links is sometimes considered "spammy" so email with no links might be better.
Toby


moderated Re: Removed for Spam suggestion #suggestion

 

How is this functionally different from an invitation to the group?
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moderated Removed for Spam suggestion #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

There has been much discussion which I won't repeat.  Many commented that, for certain users, getting them to click a link in an email is a challenge (and I understand that).
I have 2 suggestions:
  1. Provide a means for owner/mods to resend the "re-subscribe" email with the link:
    1. with updated easier to understand language and terminology
    2. allow a customizable section for a personalized message
    3. the From: address is the owner/mod, not the group address
  2. Provide a means to send a "re-subscribe" email - but this email does not contain a link:
    1. allow a customizable section for a personalized message
    2. the From: address is the owner/mod, not the group address
    3. the Reply-to: address is set to a special address which will resubscribe the member without further ado (perhaps GROUPNAME+resubscribe@groups.io).
Suggestion 1 has been mentioned elsewhere along with extending the time period for the Re-sub link.
Suggestion 2 does not require the member to go to any web page, they stay in their email.  They only need to click Reply and Send.  I would suggest that the resubscribe command email does not generate the welcome message or an email containing a link to confirm - if the sender was previously subscribed to the group.  This would require groups.io to retain knowledge that the member was unsubscribed from the group, essentially in suspended state as has also been suggested.

Thanks
Toby



moderated Re: Extend "Unsubscribed for spam" link expiration

Bob Bellizzi
 

I've noticed that the 3 day limit really has some stretch in it.
One of my members went almost 4 full days and successfully rejoined using the link
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moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

Toby Kraft
 

I'd like to point out that the partial word matching only works on "words" separated by spaces or non-alpha characters in the file name.  It does not do a search for a string of characters anywhere in the filename.  To me, this is less than ideal.  Say you have photos named "ThisPartyxxx", "ThatPartyxxx", "OtherPartyxxx".  A search for "Party" will not find anything.

Thanks

Toby


moderated Extend "Unsubscribed for spam" link expiration

Duane
 

It has been suggested that the 3 day expiration of the resubscribe link be extended to 7 or 10 days.  Some folks don't check email daily, so may not see or find the notice for awhile and it could have expired.  Hopefully this would be a minor/easy change, but may reduce complaints for some users.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

Duane
 

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 10:14 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
You can conveniently delete only one photo at a time...
Yeah, I've had to work with that several times.  It looks like it's because the photos in the album get renumbered when one is deleted, so the identifier is incorrect.  Not a problem if deleting in different albums.

Duane


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

It is, however, a slight PITA if you're on a mission to clean up the photos pages. You can conveniently delete only one photo at a time...


On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:12 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 07:41 AM, Drew wrote:
You need to refresh the page after each delete.
That's what I was thinking. I guess this is considered ok and I won't send Mark the example since it's reproducible. Thanks.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 07:41 AM, Drew wrote:
You need to refresh the page after each delete.
That's what I was thinking. I guess this is considered ok and I won't send Mark the example since it's reproducible. Thanks.
 
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moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

Drew
 

It has been that way for awhile. You need to refresh the page after each delete. Then when you click on an image it will show the correct one.

Drew

On 09/29/18 00:04, J_Catlady wrote:
Something is off. After deleting a photo, the thumbnails (I guess you could call them that) don't seem to adjust. You click on an image and it produces a completely different photo from the thumbnail image.
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moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

Mark,
I was thinking that it was probably an existing bug. I'll have to figure out the best way to send you an example and will do that soon. Thanks.
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moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • NEW: Photo search.
  • CHANGE: Cleaned up and modernized all the photos pages.
  • CHANGE: Ignore any autoreply headers if the message is to an email integration (normally we would drop those messages).
  • BUGFIX: Fixed the email address and URL in the bounce message for messages sent to enterprise groups where you are not subscribed.
  • NEW/TESTING: You can define a Display Template to specify how database tables are displayed. This is in limited testing for the moment.
  • NEW: New database column type 'HTML Paragraph'.
  • SYSADMIN: Replaced a badly behaving webserver.
  • SYSADMIN: Updated nsqd on all machines.
  • INTERNAL: More infrastructure work to make it easier to bring up new machine instances.
  • CHANGE: Cap images at a max of 10k per side, regardless of group setting.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

Hi J,

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:04 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Something is off. After deleting a photo, the thumbnails (I guess you could call them that) don't seem to adjust. You click on an image and it produces a completely different photo from the thumbnail image.

Hmm, nothing I did should have changed that. Can you email support with the group name, the album name and the photo to click on to demonstrate the bug? Perhaps it's a bug that predates the changes.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 6:24 PM Annick Phillips <annick@...> wrote:
I really like the new photo format, Mark, as my groups depend a lot on photos. Our emailed photo album cover just shows a gray screen now, though, where it used to show the most recent emailed photo. Can you fix that? The search function is a great addition for us...thanks so much! 

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

 

Something is off. After deleting a photo, the thumbnails (I guess you could call them that) don't seem to adjust. You click on an image and it produces a completely different photo from the thumbnail image.
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moderated Re: Photo search and clean up of the photos pages

Annick Phillips
 

I really like the new photo format, Mark, as my groups depend a lot on photos. Our emailed photo album cover just shows a gray screen now, though, where it used to show the most recent emailed photo. Can you fix that? The search function is a great addition for us...thanks so much! Now if you could just add comments below a photo and have a Photostream, we would be elated.
Annick


moderated Re: web-based questionnaire for restricted groups a pressing issue #suggestion

Nancy Funk
 

I hadn't seen this topic before, but as an owner of a group of people who meet in person with our children, I would love to have the ability to have a member questionnaire. As it is now when someone applies to our group we send them to a google forms application that needs to be completed before we allow them to join our group. So I've got to monitor not only the member request here on GIO, but also the google form and then transfer some of their info to a database here. It would be awesome to be able to have the full application process all in one place. The idea Mark stated earlier of having an application that allows owners the ability to decide what information to share to the entire group and what info to keep for mods eyes only is terrific. We were able to do this on BigTent, unfortunately, they are shutting down. While we love the simplicity of GIO, we do miss the ability to more fully screen our applicants without the use of another outside website. 


moderated Re: Web-only group #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 05:02 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I don't think it is necessary to muck about with the Subscription settings
The advantage of doing it via subscription settings is that you could also give control over other subscription options - e.g. display name, which has already been requested, and possibly others if desired. The "disadvantage" (not a disadvantage from my point of view) is that it would create a truly web-only group, with no emails, except possibly special notices.
 
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moderated Re: Web-only group #suggestion

 

Marv,

I have no issue with a 'web-only" option, as long as it does not
compromise current or future email group functionality, but I doubt
that I would use it.
I don't foresee using it either, but I don't think it would need to compromise other group functionality.

On the other hand, if web-only is easy and maintenance free, I'm okay,
...
Nothing is ever for free, but I think the core of this idea is minimal. When a group selects this option:

1) Alter the New Topic and Reply message poster so that they generate anonymous posts (no-reply instead of member's email in the From field).

2) Alter the inbound processing to reject posting by email.

3) Remove the Reply To = Sender (and Group and Sender) option, Private Reply, and the Email button in the Directory features. And any other place where the UI allows one member to post directly to another.

4) Remove the footer and digest links for Reply to Group and Reply to Sender from outbound messages.

I think that's it.

I don't think it is necessary to muck about with the Subscription settings or anything else in the system.

Shal


moderated Re: Web-only group #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 04:34 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
it is a flying something...
Haha!
 
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