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moderated Re: Changing attachment size in a gruoup does not change settings for existing members

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 11:34 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
Since messages can be rejected based on too large of an attachment...
They can't.

Bruce


moderated Re: Changing attachment size in a gruoup does not change settings for existing members

 

Since messages can be rejected based on too large of an attachment, I think, unless I totally misunderstand, that the group setting does limit the attachment size the group will accept.

But agree that this is not a subject for beta.


On Sep 22, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 01:36 AM, YT9TP - Pedja wrote:
I noticed that group had attachment limit set to unlimited, and of course one user managed to send very large attachment to the group.

I changed setting to limit to reasonable attachment size for the group but I notice that for users setting is still set to unlimited.

Is that a bug or group setting would override member setting?
Default Sub Settings are applied only to new subscribers, and can subsequently be overridden in their individual Subscription. On that basis, it's appropriate that your recent change should not affect existing subscriptions.

Also, this setting is not what you think it is. It affects only the size of attachments that will be relayed to that subscriber via email. There is no setting to limit the size of an attachment your group will accept. If you want something like that you will have to moderate messages containing attachments and reject those manually (see Admin>Settings>Message Formatting>Attachments>Moderate).

A setting that does what you expected this to do is not a bad idea. But questions like this are best posted to GMF first...after an appropriate vetting period you can subsequently send it here as a feature request.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


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moderated Re: Changing attachment size in a gruoup does not change settings for existing members

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 01:36 AM, YT9TP - Pedja wrote:
I noticed that group had attachment limit set to unlimited, and of course one user managed to send very large attachment to the group.

I changed setting to limit to reasonable attachment size for the group but I notice that for users setting is still set to unlimited.

Is that a bug or group setting would override member setting?
Default Sub Settings are applied only to new subscribers, and can subsequently be overridden in their individual Subscription. On that basis, it's appropriate that your recent change should not affect existing subscriptions.

Also, this setting is not what you think it is. It affects only the size of attachments that will be relayed to that subscriber via email. There is no setting to limit the size of an attachment your group will accept. If you want something like that you will have to moderate messages containing attachments and reject those manually (see Admin>Settings>Message Formatting>Attachments>Moderate).

A setting that does what you expected this to do is not a bad idea. But questions like this are best posted to GMF first...after an appropriate vetting period you can subsequently send it here as a feature request.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Thanks Mark! Be sure the Icons have a text alternative or alt text for screen readers. Thanks again!

On 9/21/2018 10:40 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: Fixed a bug in the /downloadarchives API endpoint.
  • CHANGE: Added a bunch of panels to Account, Edit Sub and Member pages to try to make things more clear. Also worked on some of the descriptions.
  • BUGFIX: The 'To' header line of Email Integrations contained an invalid email address.
  • NEW: Made the database table map view display much quicker, without the flickering as it loaded the map.
  • NEW: New member post status overrides: Override: moderate the first message of every topic this person starts and Override: moderate all topics started by this person
  • API: New subscription post_status values: sub_poststatus_modfirstmessage, sub_poststatus_modstartedtopics
  • CHANGE: Made New Poll a tab in the sidebar instead of a button on the New Topic page.
  • NEW: Respect column colors in table map views.
  • NEW: In a table map view, we now pop up a title when mousing over a pin.
  • NEW: In a premium group, when viewing a table with an address, changed the toggle buttons between map and list views.
  • NEW: Upgraded to Fontawesome 5.3.1
  • BUGFIX: In a premium group, when changing the sort of a table with an address in list view, it'd go back to map view.
  • MISC: Cleaned up a lot of CSS on the website and made all the icons a consistent type.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


Re: Strip Out Embedded images #suggestion

Beth Weld
 

I vote for stripping - or at least having an option. I do not want "stuff" like that cluttering my groups - or having it waste my data allowance.
Thanks
Beth


moderated Re: groups.io security

YT9TP - Pedja
 

Have you set Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for your mail domain?
Groups.io should follow that.


moderated Re: Changing attachment size in a gruoup does not change settings for existing members

 

The member setting limits the size of attachments they want to receive. The group setting limits the size of attachments they can send.
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Re: Strip Out Embedded images #suggestion

YT9TP - Pedja
 

I had similar issue tonight. One user sent entire photo album to the list and each reply to his message contained the same images.
I am not quite sure how that happened.


moderated Changing attachment size in a gruoup does not change settings for existing members

YT9TP - Pedja
 

I noticed that group had attachment limit set to unlimited, and of course one user managed to send very large attachment to the group.

I changed setting to limit to reasonable attachment size for the group but I notice that for users setting is still set to unlimited.

Is that a bug or group setting would override member setting?


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: Fixed a bug in the /downloadarchives API endpoint.
  • CHANGE: Added a bunch of panels to Account, Edit Sub and Member pages to try to make things more clear. Also worked on some of the descriptions.
  • BUGFIX: The 'To' header line of Email Integrations contained an invalid email address.
  • NEW: Made the database table map view display much quicker, without the flickering as it loaded the map.
  • NEW: New member post status overrides: Override: moderate the first message of every topic this person starts and Override: moderate all topics started by this person
  • API: New subscription post_status values: sub_poststatus_modfirstmessage, sub_poststatus_modstartedtopics
  • CHANGE: Made New Poll a tab in the sidebar instead of a button on the New Topic page.
  • NEW: Respect column colors in table map views.
  • NEW: In a table map view, we now pop up a title when mousing over a pin.
  • NEW: In a premium group, when viewing a table with an address, changed the toggle buttons between map and list views.
  • NEW: Upgraded to Fontawesome 5.3.1
  • BUGFIX: In a premium group, when changing the sort of a table with an address in list view, it'd go back to map view.
  • MISC: Cleaned up a lot of CSS on the website and made all the icons a consistent type.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC

Leeni
 

The thing is no one is actually putting anything in the CC field.
It is doing it automatically.  
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 9/21/2018 5:49:04 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC
 
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 3:43 PM magicalkingdomgroups@... <magicalkingdomgroups@...> wrote:
I don't know why it is now happening with all mail that is sent through groups IO.
The email address is put by the member in the TO field but it is also showing up in the CC field. 

This is not a topic for beta@. For questions about the current service, the best bet is to consult GMF. For support issues, please send your email to support@groups.io.

(Nothing has changed wrt to how we handle CC fields for a few months now).

Mark 
 


moderated Re: Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 3:43 PM magicalkingdomgroups@... <magicalkingdomgroups@...> wrote:
I don't know why it is now happening with all mail that is sent through groups IO.
The email address is put by the member in the TO field but it is also showing up in the CC field. 

This is not a topic for beta@. For questions about the current service, the best bet is to consult GMF. For support issues, please send your email to support@groups.io.

(Nothing has changed wrt to how we handle CC fields for a few months now).

Mark 


moderated Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC

Leeni
 

I don't know why it is now happening with all mail that is sent through groups IO.
The email address is put by the member in the TO field but it is also showing up in the CC field. 
 
 
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 Ilene


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

All,

Moderating this topic as well. Getting repetitive and argumentative.

Mark


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:55 PM, Toby Kraft wrote:
Problem solved.
Right. And neither one of those needs to be masked. Obviously, the group address does not need masking. And the private address will be seen, in its entirety, at the request of the sender if they check "bcc me," so masking it is pointless as well. 
 
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moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

Jim says he wants to see the address that the reply goes to.  No problem.  To the right of the From: add a To: field.
It displays either 
a) Reply to Group => the address of the group as in  main@beta.groups.io
or
b) Reply to Sender => the address of the sender of the post being replied to.  (which in the case of an announcement only group could be the Reply-To provided by the mod/owner if they specified a custom Reply-To when forwarding an announcement)
Problem solved.
Toby


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 05:48 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
It's allowing users to pick and choose whom they send group messages to that's my complaint.
And mine.  Groups software has always managed replies such that they go to who they're intended to go to based on the configuration of the group.

If you don't trust that it's going to accurately do that then you had ought not be using it.

This is not new, it's not rocket science, and it's been handled smoothly for decades now.
 
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moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:16 PM, Jim Higgins wrote:
It's not like refusing this feature request does anything of any real consequence in the realm of security.
True. But security is not my complaint about it. It's allowing users to pick and choose whom they send group messages to that's my complaint. (That and displaying 20 K masked email addresses. ;)
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

Re: "request to allow a sender to insert a "Reply-to:" header with an email address not subscribed to the list was granted."
I believe you are referring to this change -> https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/23242689#17656,  If so, I don't believe it is germane to your request as this change only applied to mod/owners sending a message to an Announcement Only group in which Reply to Group does not exist.   It's a very narrow use case where the mod/owner forwards a message received from 'somewhere else' and they wish replies to go to 'somewhere else', not to them.  And only applied on messages emailed to the announcement only group, AFAIK.
The social contract of groups.io is still intact as the members of an Announcement Only group do not expect to discuss announcements, only receive them.
Toby


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:19 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
this goes back a lot longer than groups.io
yes, totally. i used groups.io as the instance of the model we are discussing, since this is, ultimately, about this particular product. ;p
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

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