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Re: Strip Out Embedded images #suggestion

Beth Weld
 

I vote for stripping - or at least having an option. I do not want "stuff" like that cluttering my groups - or having it waste my data allowance.
Thanks
Beth


moderated Re: groups.io security

YT9TP - Pedja
 

Have you set Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for your mail domain?
Groups.io should follow that.


moderated Re: Changing attachment size in a gruoup does not change settings for existing members

 

The member setting limits the size of attachments they want to receive. The group setting limits the size of attachments they can send.
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Re: Strip Out Embedded images #suggestion

YT9TP - Pedja
 

I had similar issue tonight. One user sent entire photo album to the list and each reply to his message contained the same images.
I am not quite sure how that happened.


moderated Changing attachment size in a gruoup does not change settings for existing members

YT9TP - Pedja
 

I noticed that group had attachment limit set to unlimited, and of course one user managed to send very large attachment to the group.

I changed setting to limit to reasonable attachment size for the group but I notice that for users setting is still set to unlimited.

Is that a bug or group setting would override member setting?


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: Fixed a bug in the /downloadarchives API endpoint.
  • CHANGE: Added a bunch of panels to Account, Edit Sub and Member pages to try to make things more clear. Also worked on some of the descriptions.
  • BUGFIX: The 'To' header line of Email Integrations contained an invalid email address.
  • NEW: Made the database table map view display much quicker, without the flickering as it loaded the map.
  • NEW: New member post status overrides: Override: moderate the first message of every topic this person starts and Override: moderate all topics started by this person
  • API: New subscription post_status values: sub_poststatus_modfirstmessage, sub_poststatus_modstartedtopics
  • CHANGE: Made New Poll a tab in the sidebar instead of a button on the New Topic page.
  • NEW: Respect column colors in table map views.
  • NEW: In a table map view, we now pop up a title when mousing over a pin.
  • NEW: In a premium group, when viewing a table with an address, changed the toggle buttons between map and list views.
  • NEW: Upgraded to Fontawesome 5.3.1
  • BUGFIX: In a premium group, when changing the sort of a table with an address in list view, it'd go back to map view.
  • MISC: Cleaned up a lot of CSS on the website and made all the icons a consistent type.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC

Leeni
 

The thing is no one is actually putting anything in the CC field.
It is doing it automatically.  
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 9/21/2018 5:49:04 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC
 
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 3:43 PM magicalkingdomgroups@... <magicalkingdomgroups@...> wrote:
I don't know why it is now happening with all mail that is sent through groups IO.
The email address is put by the member in the TO field but it is also showing up in the CC field. 

This is not a topic for beta@. For questions about the current service, the best bet is to consult GMF. For support issues, please send your email to support@groups.io.

(Nothing has changed wrt to how we handle CC fields for a few months now).

Mark 
 


moderated Re: Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 3:43 PM magicalkingdomgroups@... <magicalkingdomgroups@...> wrote:
I don't know why it is now happening with all mail that is sent through groups IO.
The email address is put by the member in the TO field but it is also showing up in the CC field. 

This is not a topic for beta@. For questions about the current service, the best bet is to consult GMF. For support issues, please send your email to support@groups.io.

(Nothing has changed wrt to how we handle CC fields for a few months now).

Mark 


moderated Mail is coming in duplicated - TO and then CC

Leeni
 

I don't know why it is now happening with all mail that is sent through groups IO.
The email address is put by the member in the TO field but it is also showing up in the CC field. 
 
 
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Subject: [AMagicalKingdomOfSharingNFriends] Snagged and Sharing "Blank Tags"
 
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Subject: [AMagicalKingdomOfSharingNFriends] tag from Joyce
 
 
 
 Ilene


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

All,

Moderating this topic as well. Getting repetitive and argumentative.

Mark


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:55 PM, Toby Kraft wrote:
Problem solved.
Right. And neither one of those needs to be masked. Obviously, the group address does not need masking. And the private address will be seen, in its entirety, at the request of the sender if they check "bcc me," so masking it is pointless as well. 
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

Jim says he wants to see the address that the reply goes to.  No problem.  To the right of the From: add a To: field.
It displays either 
a) Reply to Group => the address of the group as in  main@beta.groups.io
or
b) Reply to Sender => the address of the sender of the post being replied to.  (which in the case of an announcement only group could be the Reply-To provided by the mod/owner if they specified a custom Reply-To when forwarding an announcement)
Problem solved.
Toby


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 05:48 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
It's allowing users to pick and choose whom they send group messages to that's my complaint.
And mine.  Groups software has always managed replies such that they go to who they're intended to go to based on the configuration of the group.

If you don't trust that it's going to accurately do that then you had ought not be using it.

This is not new, it's not rocket science, and it's been handled smoothly for decades now.
 
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moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:16 PM, Jim Higgins wrote:
It's not like refusing this feature request does anything of any real consequence in the realm of security.
True. But security is not my complaint about it. It's allowing users to pick and choose whom they send group messages to that's my complaint. (That and displaying 20 K masked email addresses. ;)
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

Re: "request to allow a sender to insert a "Reply-to:" header with an email address not subscribed to the list was granted."
I believe you are referring to this change -> https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/23242689#17656,  If so, I don't believe it is germane to your request as this change only applied to mod/owners sending a message to an Announcement Only group in which Reply to Group does not exist.   It's a very narrow use case where the mod/owner forwards a message received from 'somewhere else' and they wish replies to go to 'somewhere else', not to them.  And only applied on messages emailed to the announcement only group, AFAIK.
The social contract of groups.io is still intact as the members of an Announcement Only group do not expect to discuss announcements, only receive them.
Toby


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:19 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
this goes back a lot longer than groups.io
yes, totally. i used groups.io as the instance of the model we are discussing, since this is, ultimately, about this particular product. ;p
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 02:16 PM, Jim Higgins wrote:
It's addressed to the group and Groups.io manages the detailed distribution behind the scenes.
Of course. But it was my impression that you were asking the message compose space to display all the email addresses (masked) of everyone the message would go to. Perhaps I misunderstood your ask, but you emphasized "masked." Why would groups.io have to mask the group's own address? So it seemed to me you are, or were, requesting that all the email addresses that the message would eventually go to be shown. If, OTOH, you're just requesting this for private replies, I have no objection, as I've said.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Jim,

          It is your original proposal that's senseless.

          On Groups.io, as in any groups software that has a forum interface, your Reply goes back out to the group as the group is formed.  I will admit that I have never used a "Reply to sender" group, but if that's what I'm on I have no reason to believe, if I hit "Reply to Group" under the forums interface that, in that case, it means it will go back to the Sender.

          All of this is, and should be, managed behind the scenes by the group software.  I cannot fathom what your issue is.  You seem to keep proposing solutions in search of problems that don't exist and never have existed.

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     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 04:17 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
violates the whole model that groups.io is based on
You're 100% correct.   My point, however, is that this goes back a lot longer than groups.io.   Groups.io is a "new kid on the block" of a medium that's very old (cyber-speaking) with conventions and social contracts that date back to the pre-WWW days.

Like I said of myself earlier:  I was there, so I know.  [Usenet and similar from that area are the Grandparents of the entire milieu].
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


moderated Re: Groups.io Message Editor #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Received from J_Catlady at 9/21/2018 04:08 PM UTC:
 
I also see that you are proposing the list be "editable." I think this is a dealbreaker. It would essentially allow users to pick and choose whom they want to send group messages to, and this is really a whole new feature that does not seem in keeping with the product.


Choosing to not reply to an address someone has inserted via a "Reply-to:" header is - in my opinion - well within the scope of the product. I suppose I could look at the source for every message before replying, but in a group where replies go to the group, if I don't like an added "Reply-to:" address I can't reply to the group (without spawning a new thread) because I can't delete the added address. Editable is a misnomer when it comes to addresses that I said I was OK with figleafing. The only logical edit to a figleafed address is to delete it.

This is why I didn't like the feature that allowed adding a custom "Reply-to:" address... and since that was approved I'd like to see that address if/when it is used... figleafed being OK.

If you want to talk about "in keeping with the product" I think anonymous (invisible) reply addresses aren't "in keeping with the product."

Remember... this only applies to replies made via the Groups.io web interface. For the messages I receive at my home email address... and the messages received by many others at their home email address... we ALL can currently see the full email address of the sender and when replying can see the full reply-to addresses. It's not like refusing this feature request does anything of any real consequence in the realm of security. It's a convenience feature... like some of the ones you've requested that could have been achieved by existing means, but with more effort.

Jim H

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