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moderated Re: send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

 

Michael, yes, I realized that belatedly. 😊

On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Michael Pavan <@mjp> wrote:


On Sep 11, 2018, at 1:45 PM, J_Catlady <@J_Catlady> wrote:

I'm talking about when someone posts from the web.
That’s why I wrote:
Unfortunately, not all online forms that I fill out (or send a message from) have the option for me to receive a copy. I wish they did, that would be user-friendly.

(Posting from the web = sending a message from an online form)




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moderated Re: send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

 

Shal,
I was thinking more along the lines of the bcc. However, I also see advantages to having it be automatic, especially in an unmoderated group. In the case today, I hadn’t noticed the thread was moderated and would not have thought to check a bcc me box.


On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

J,

It would be convenient to somehow(?) email users a copy of their moderated message when sent by web rather than email, similarly to how moderators get an emailed copy of a pending message.

I like that idea. Private replies already have the BCC Me checkbox, regular replies could too.

Or are you thinking it should be sent automatically if the message will be moderated? Perhaps it could be checked by default in that case.

Shal

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moderated Re: send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

 

J,

It would be convenient to somehow(?) email users a copy of their moderated message when sent by web rather than email, similarly to how moderators get an emailed copy of a pending message.

I like that idea. Private replies already have the BCC Me checkbox, regular replies could too.

Or are you thinking it should be sent automatically if the message will be moderated? Perhaps it could be checked by default in that case.

Shal


moderated Re: send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Sep 11, 2018, at 1:45 PM, J_Catlady <@J_Catlady> wrote:

I'm talking about when someone posts from the web.
That’s why I wrote:
Unfortunately, not all online forms that I fill out (or send a message from) have the option for me to receive a copy. I wish they did, that would be user-friendly.

(Posting from the web = sending a message from an online form)


moderated Re: send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

 

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:
I have my email set (with Mac’s Mail) to automatically BCC me on all the messages I sent,
I'm talking about when someone posts from the web. When you post via email, you already have the message in your "sent" folder anyway.
 
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moderated Embed Signup Form

Sandra Pickens-Gmail
 

Mark,

 

I submitted this request a while back and wanted to put in the suggestion again.  I want to use the Embed Signup Form provided under Promote.  Our group is for church members only and the form only captures an email, so I have no way to know if they are church members without a name.  Is it possible to add a Name field to the form?  Currently I have created a form on my website that captures the Name and email then when I get it I have to send an Invite to the person. I tried using the promote form at first, but got several emails that I could not determine if they were Church members or not   .  I would prefer to use the Promote form and just be able to approve them when I verify they are church members. I know you get many request, but I hope you will consider this one.

 

Sandra Pickens

IBO-5849
Virtual Services Solution, Inc.

336-462-8917

www.virtualservicessolution.com

 


moderated Re: send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

I just composed and sent a message to a moderated thread here, and realized that since I won't see it until it is approved (and will never see it if is not approved), I've lost what I've sent. It would be convenient to somehow(?) email users a copy of their moderated message when sent by web rather than email, similarly to how moderators get an emailed copy of a pending message.
I have my email set (with Mac’s Mail) to automatically BCC me on all the messages I sent, not just to Groups.io

Yes, when Groups.io send me my post I have two copies in my inbox, but they are threaded in the same conversation so it is easy to delete my original ‘Sent’ copy.

Unfortunately, not all online forms that I fill out (or send a message from) have the option for me to receive a copy. I wish they did, that would be user-friendly.


moderated Re: Virus scanning

 

HI All,

I've just enabled the new virus scanning option for groups. Under Message Policies, there's a dropdown labeled Viruses. It defaults to Blocked, but can be set to Moderated.

I disabled scanning for phishing schemes, because the false positive rate was just way too high. So it only scans for viruses. Emails from non-members that contain viruses are blocked regardless of the group setting. When a message is blocked or moderated, an entry is added to the activity log (there are 3 new actions: non-member blocked, member blocked, member moderated). When viewing a moderated message for approval, a red badge is displayed with the name of the virus detected. I'm not currently retroactively scanning the archives and I'm not currently displaying anything when viewing moderated and then approved messages in the archives.

In my testing, very few viruses are actually sent through the system. So, hopefully, this is something you won't encounter.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Deleting old pending subs

debbie
 

Thanks, Mark! It IS working fine now.



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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hi All,

There was a bug in the code that deleted old pending subscriptions, so that they never were actually deleted. I've fixed the bug (hopefully), and starting this evening, pending subscriptions that are older than 2 weeks will be deleted.

Mark



moderated Re: send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

That's a good idea. Thanks.


moderated Re: New Repost feature

 

I just tested this and I am noticing a few problems with it.

(1) The "repost" button appears on both the original and the reposted message even when the limit has been reached, and lets you click on it but actually does nothing. I think the button should not appear, or if it does, clicking on it should produce a message to the effect that "this message has already been posted the maximum number of times."

(2) The repost button similarly appears at the bottom of the message within the topic (as opposed to the message within the individual message list) even though it, too, does nothing and also produces no notification to the effect that it's doing nothing. It just lets you click on it and think that the message has been reposted when in fact it hasn't. The repost button should either not appear at the bottom of a message within the topic, or it should do something.

(3) The hashtag idea is great, since it makes readers aware that the repost is actually a repost. However, it implies (correctly, I see by the results) that you can only repost the first message of any topic. Two issues here: (a) the repost button appears on reply messages as well, and does nothing, and does not inform users that it does nothing; and (b) reposting the original message seems to start a separate thread, with all replies to it separated off into the original thread. 

Is all this behavior really what we want? I would make the following changes:

1. Allow replies to be reposted as well as original messages in the thread.
2. Don't use a hashtag at all; instead, insert text "repost" at the top of a reposted message. (A hashtag causes the split-thread problem, in addition to implying either that you can repost only the first message in a thread, or that every message in the thread has been reposted.)
3. When the repost limit has been reached, either don't display the repost button, or display it but when clicked on inform the user they've reached the limit.
4. Allow messages to be reposted within the thread rather than only within the message itself. Alternatively, don't display the repost button on messages within a thread, because it does nothing. Alternatively, display the repost button on messages within the thread but when clicked on, inform the user that they must be within the individual message to use it.

In all these cases, I think I prefer displaying the button and then just informing users, when they click on it, that it's a no-op and include the reason. I think it could be confusing for the button to sometimes appear and sometimes not. (In fact, I'm SURE it will be confusing.) I would even go further and ALWAYS display the button (in a group that uses the feature at all), on every message individually and within every message within every thread, even after the limit, and even before the waiting period (if any) is over. When the user clicks on it, tell them "reposting this message is not allowed until the waiting period of [x] days has been reached" or "you have already reposted this message [x] times" etc.
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moderated send user copy of web-posted message if moderated #suggestion

 

I just composed and sent a message to a moderated thread here, and realized that since I won't see it until it is approved (and will never see it if is not approved), I've lost what I've sent. It would be convenient to somehow(?) email users a copy of their moderated message when sent by web rather than email, similarly to how moderators get an emailed copy of a pending message.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 01:43 PM, Tom Vail wrote:
Bruce's idea above may not be that much of a "kludge" after all.  You could include the required hashtag in the "Subject Tag" under "Message Format" (see settings) which will automatically include it in every message.
Tom -- I just tried this in the ShalsTest group and it doesn't work. The hashtag goes out in the email bug is not actually "applied" to the topic. Good idea, though.

Mark -- It seems our workaround isn't working very well. We also just today had another inquiry about this in GMF. The ability to disable the online message archive remains a desirable feature to a those who would prefer a listserv-like, email-only interface.

Thanks,
Bruce


moderated Combine Direct Add emails for sub groups - #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

When you do a Direct Add of a member and include subgroups, the member receives an email for the main group, plus one for each subgroup.  For us, with 2 subgroups, that generates 3 email to a new member, which for some is a bit confusing.

I would like to suggest they be combined into one email which lists the group and subgroups.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Deleting old pending subs

 

Hi All,

There was a bug in the code that deleted old pending subscriptions, so that they never were actually deleted. I've fixed the bug (hopefully), and starting this evening, pending subscriptions that are older than 2 weeks will be deleted.

Mark


moderated Re: Change "Rejected message" to "Message rejected" in member activity log #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I've changed "Rejected message" to "Message rejected". 

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Ken Kloeber via Groups.Io <KWKloeber@...> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:35 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
I started this thread not for any nit-picky ideal of going "cleaner/crisper." I started it because I found the current term actually misleading.
My point, not well communicated, is that it the construction is kept in mind and focused on up front when composing every message (of any type anywhere) the ambiguity and huhs? more often than not automatically disappear. 

Certsinly it’s fine as is. 



moderated Bug report

Linda Standart
 

The error in my group's address and phone book database is back. I reported this some time ago. When a member (including me as owner) attempts to open the database, we get an error message as follows

Geocode was not successful for the following reason: REQUEST_DENIED
If I click on that, it closes the error window and shows a very enlarged map and has the member information listed below. I can't get it to give me list view.
Linda Standart

Owner https://groups.io/g/SecondSaturdayAlteredBookGroup

Thank you for any assistance and feedback you can provide


moderated Re: Change "Rejected message" to "Message rejected" in member activity log #suggestion

KWKloeber
 

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:35 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
I started this thread not for any nit-picky ideal of going "cleaner/crisper." I started it because I found the current term actually misleading.
My point, not well communicated, is that it the construction is kept in mind and focused on up front when composing every message (of any type anywhere) the ambiguity and huhs? more often than not automatically disappear. 

Certsinly it’s fine as is. 


moderated Re: Change "Rejected message" to "Message rejected" in member activity log #suggestion

 

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 09:18 AM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
Oh okay, sorry, I missed something then.
Game of telephone. :-)
 
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moderated Re: Change "Rejected message" to "Message rejected" in member activity log #suggestion

 

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 09:17 AM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
You get to write why it was rejected when you hit the rejected button 
We're not talking about moderator rejections. This is solely about messages that were automatically rejected by the system!
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu