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moderated Re: Updating existing file in Files #suggestion

 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 3:21 PM, YT9TP - Pedja <yt9tp@...> wrote:
It works now, but it seems there is another bug: after file is uploaded, file list shows upload date as unchanged - it shows previous upload date.


It will now show the new upload date.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Far better would be if the cursor changed to the "no" icon (red slashed circle) when over the menu items. Or maybe when over the Actions button itself, which should be greyed.


I've changed it so that the Action button is disabled until you check on at least one member.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 



On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:

I don't know if this is new to this change, but I think there is a confusing link in the first line of the pending message the pending member received.  It reads:

       Thank you for your interest in the Forum@DeFeverCruisers.groups.io group at Groups.io.

Note it has an "@" but points to a website address, it is not a mailto link.  Shouldn't it be the main web address for the group such as https://defevercruisers.groups.io in our case?  I think this is especially confusing since the next line in the message has the same text which is a mailto link.


I've changed the confirmation email so that URL text matches the URL itself.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Updating existing file in Files #suggestion

YT9TP - Pedja
 

I agree. That is why I said "it seems there is another bug".

I am actually thrilled how quickly you guys respond and fix bugs.


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 09:38 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
CHANGE: The pending message notification email now uses the pending message's subscriber email address instead of the Sender line when describing who the message is from.
Hi Mark,

I think this fix was prompted by the problem I was having with the member's email address not showing up in the pending notification, so that I couldn't tell who she was - as reported here:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/moderator_access_to_group/23853562

You had told me, from the support address after I sent you the details, that it was fixed and that it should now show "the correct email address." But she had told me that she was "using a different email address" to post to the group, and she had, and has, no alias set up. What was showing in the pending notice was not the "Sender line" (although I'm not quite sure what you mean by that). The pending notice showed an actual gmail address that is not the one she's subscribed to the group under, so I am still flummoxed.

At any rate, I have a response in to you at support asking about this, so hopefully I can get the answer either here or there as to what is, or was, going on. Thanks!
 
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Mark,

* CHANGE: On the Members page, only bring up the Action dialog if at
least one member is selected.
I do not like the new user experience. Having the menu simply close makes me think that the software is broken, it doesn't suggest to me that I've made a mistake, let alone what mistake I've made.

Far better would be if the cursor changed to the "no" icon (red slashed circle) when over the menu items. Or maybe when over the Actions button itself, which should be greyed.

Also, a GMF member pointed out to me that the current behavior is inconsistent. The "Send Message" choice still brings up a new composition page, "To: 0 members".

Shal


moderated Re: Suggestion: option to prevent users to change Display Name #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

I heartily second that request!  We have the same issue in keeping the groups display names in sync the names on file with a separate membership-only website.  We use "direct add" for all new members to set the initial display name, but as mentioned above, some people unknowing make changes.  We use the activity log regularly to check on changes, then we send them a note and change it back.  Having a no-change option, at least for us, would be very helpful.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Updating existing file in Files #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 06:45 PM, YT9TP - Pedja wrote:
It works now, but it seems there is another bug: after file is uploaded, file list shows upload date as unchanged - it shows previous upload date.
Your post on June 28 said that you didn't want to lose any other data about the file. While I agree that the date of upload and the person who did it should be updated, based on the original feature request the current behavior is a not a bug.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

I'd like to revive this request please. Getting very tired of subject lines full of hashtags and nothing else. Having the option to moderate threads members start but not ones where they only respond would be so helpful.

Thank you.

Helen


moderated Re: Suggestion: Default date for Date field in database table should be allowed to be empty or different that current date #suggestion

YT9TP - Pedja
 

Thanks, it works now. :)

What about the second part: option to set default value?


moderated Re: Updating existing file in Files #suggestion

YT9TP - Pedja
 

It works now, but it seems there is another bug: after file is uploaded, file list shows upload date as unchanged - it shows previous upload date.


moderated Suggestion: option to prevent users to change Display Name #suggestion

YT9TP - Pedja
 

It would be good to have option to prevents to change Display Name once after group admin set it up.

We have situation that we run private group and cannot identify users by their email addresses and default display names. Therefore admins contacts them do find out who they are, and edits Display names to add identification data (it is private group so we do not have privacy issues).

However, once in a while some user edits and changes Display Name not realizing that he overrides value set by admin and breaks identification requirement. It would be easier if they simply could not edit Display Name after admin sets it.


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Leeni
 

Okay I see
This way the taggers wouldn't have to remember to add it there themselves.
That sound like a good idea.
Ilene  
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
From: Tom Vail
Date: 8/25/2018 12:43:48 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Messages Read from Group's pages
 
-- Your group requires hashtags, 
-- You only have one available, and 
-- It locks the topic.
I know it's a kludge, and will require some training of your subscribers. But it should work.

Bruce's idea above may not be that much of a "kludge" after all.  You could include the required hashtag in the "Subject Tag" under "Message Format" (see settings) which will automatically include it in every message.  (Note I have not tested this, but we add text there which is helpful.  The only problem would be is if for some reason it strips hashtags from the "Subject Tag.")

Peace,
Tom
 


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Tom Vail
 

-- Your group requires hashtags, 
-- You only have one available, and 
-- It locks the topic.
I know it's a kludge, and will require some training of your subscribers. But it should work.

Bruce's idea above may not be that much of a "kludge" after all.  You could include the required hashtag in the "Subject Tag" under "Message Format" (see settings) which will automatically include it in every message.  (Note I have not tested this, but we add text there which is helpful.  The only problem would be is if for some reason it strips hashtags from the "Subject Tag.")

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Tom Vail
 

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 09:38 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
CHANGE: The pending message notification email now uses the pending message's subscriber email address instead of the Sender line when describing who the message is from.
Morning Mark,

I don't know if this is new to this change, but I think there is a confusing link in the first line of the pending message the pending member received.  It reads:

       Thank you for your interest in the Forum@DeFeverCruisers.groups.io group at Groups.io.

Note it has an "@" but points to a website address, it is not a mailto link.  Shouldn't it be the main web address for the group such as https://defevercruisers.groups.io in our case?  I think this is especially confusing since the next line in the message has the same text which is a mailto link.

Peace,
Tom



moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: Fix encoding issues with CSV formatted member list download.
  • CHANGE: The pending message notification email now uses the pending message's subscriber email address instead of the Sender line when describing who the message is from.
  • CHANGE: On the Members page, only bring up the Action dialog if at least one member is selected.
  • NEW: Include in the activity log the message sent to someone when directly adding them, similar to how invites are done.
  • INTERNAL: Fixed database connection closing issue.
  • INTERNAL: Moved all database connections to use a connection pooler.
  • CHANGE: Help file tweaks.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed two issues with chat that could cause chat messages to not be delivered to all members of the chat room.
  • NEW: The member subgroups page now has a Joined column for the subgroups a member is a part of.
  • SYSADMIN: Tuned the database.
  • NEW: Added 'Int' and 'NS' badges to the pending messages page for messages from Integrations and Non Subscribers.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed issue with approving pending messages from non-subscribers.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed an issue with long running chat sessions.
  • INTERNAL: Now caching some web pages.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Leeni
 

Yes, you are understanding me correctly.
I want to be able to disable the online message archive, if not all together if it can't be done,  but have the option to hide it from members. A new entry in the Visibility dropdown in the group Settings would be wonderful.
 
Yes that option was available in Y groups
See attachment
 
A workaround will help if there is one.
 
I appreciate you opening up the discussion again in GMF as now the issue has become more noticeable about something having to be done since the members now have had time to explore groups IO and what they are able to do that they couldn't do in Y groups because I had that feature disabled from them.
 
I also realize that this issue may not be high priority for Mark reading about all he has done and needs to do. One thing I do have is patience and understanding as long as I know I have been heard which I have. I do love Groups IO a lot and probably will in the near future transfer my other 3 groups over to IO.
 
Thanks, Ilene
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 8/24/2018 4:10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Messages Read from Group's pages
 
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 05:01 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
But if it was something I can set up, then I'd give it a try.
If I understand you correctly, what you really want is to disable the online message archive altogether, perhaps as a new entry in the Visibility dropdown in the group Settings. You also previously stated in GMF that this option was available to you in Y!G.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just trying to suggest a workaround that might make life easier for you while Mark ponders (and prioritizes) the notion. We can discuss the settings by reopening your thread in GMF from mid-May. I'll post something over there in a few minutes.

Regards,
Bruce
 


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 05:01 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
But if it was something I can set up, then I'd give it a try.
If I understand you correctly, what you really want is to disable the online message archive altogether, perhaps as a new entry in the Visibility dropdown in the group Settings. You also previously stated in GMF that this option was available to you in Y!G.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just trying to suggest a workaround that might make life easier for you while Mark ponders (and prioritizes) the notion. We can discuss the settings by reopening your thread in GMF from mid-May. I'll post something over there in a few minutes.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Leeni
 

I know the shortest amount of time is 1 day to lock a topic unless I go in and do it manually.
 
Now I am computer illiterate.
I really don't know what a hashtag is
 
I don't understand what needs to be done.
My members I know won't understand hashtags either so if they have to do it, then that would be a no go.
 
But if it was something I can set up, then I'd give it a try.
 
Ilene 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 8/24/2018 3:22:35 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Messages Read from Group's pages
 
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:11 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I know that the shortest amount of time that a message can be locked is 1 day if it isn't locked manually sooner.
Ilene --

You can set up a hashtag that -- when used -- locks the topic as soon as it is posted. You can also set up your group to require hashtags, and also set it up so only Moderators can create hashtags. See where I'm going with this?

-- Your group requires hashtags, 
-- You only have one available, and
-- It locks the topic.

I know it's a kludge, and will require some training of your subscribers. But it should work.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
 


moderated Re: Messages Read from Group's pages

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:11 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I know that the shortest amount of time that a message can be locked is 1 day if it isn't locked manually sooner.
Ilene --

You can set up a hashtag that -- when used -- locks the topic as soon as it is posted. You can also set up your group to require hashtags, and also set it up so only Moderators can create hashtags. See where I'm going with this?

-- Your group requires hashtags, 
-- You only have one available, and
-- It locks the topic.

I know it's a kludge, and will require some training of your subscribers. But it should work.

Hope this helps,
Bruce