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moderated Re: Groups.io is down ...

Ellen Moody
 

Thank you all. So I'll just proceed as usual, only I'll send my postings from my gmail.

I am confused about time: how does pacific time 11 pm translate into daylight savings time on the east coast?

Ellen

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:01 AM magicalkingdomgroups@... <magicalkingdomgroups@...> wrote:
It seems that messages are going through to the groups however once in a while that downtime message appears when you try to get to a groups IO home page.
 
Ilene 
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 8/21/2018 9:33:21 AM
Subject: [beta] Groups.io is down ...
 
Dear People, 

I just read that Groups.io is down for maintenance. We were informed it will be back by 11 pm pacific time and 4 am UTC (? -- I don't know what that is). 

So, 1) When will groups.io be back EST or daylight savings time?

2) Is it better to wait until the site is back up again before posting again? or does it not matter if one posts now and then the messages come through when the site is back up?

I hope this goes through

Ellen Moody
 


moderated Event: Website outage #outage - Tuesday, 21 August 2018 #outage #cal-invite

main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Website outage #outage

When:
Tuesday, 21 August 2018
6:50am to 7:50am
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Description:

At approximately 6:50am, the website started to become unresponsive. Internally, the web servers were rebooting because they were running out of database connections. I originally thought that this was a database issue, but after much investigation, I was able to track down the problem. A fix I pushed to the site yesterday afternoon affecting Chat was now causing database connections to leak. I have temporarily disabled the Chat function until I can fix the bugfix. Email delivery was not affected during this time.

I will post a post mortem either later today or tomorrow, after I've reinstated Chat and had some time to consider what, if any, changes to make based on this outage.


moderated Re: Groups.io is down ...

Leeni
 

It seems that messages are going through to the groups however once in a while that downtime message appears when you try to get to a groups IO home page.
 
Ilene 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 8/21/2018 9:33:21 AM
Subject: [beta] Groups.io is down ...
 
Dear People, 

I just read that Groups.io is down for maintenance. We were informed it will be back by 11 pm pacific time and 4 am UTC (? -- I don't know what that is). 

So, 1) When will groups.io be back EST or daylight savings time?

2) Is it better to wait until the site is back up again before posting again? or does it not matter if one posts now and then the messages come through when the site is back up?

I hope this goes through

Ellen Moody
 


moderated Re: Groups.io is down ...

Barbara Byers
 

This went through fine, and so did a couple of messages I just posted to my groups, so I believe whatever the issue is, it's not affecting everything.

Barb

 


On 2018-08-21 10:25 AM, Ellen Moody wrote:

Dear People, 
 
I just read that Groups.io is down for maintenance. We were informed it will be back by 11 pm pacific time and 4 am UTC (? -- I don't know what that is). 
 
So, 1) When will groups.io be back EST or daylight savings time?
 
2) Is it better to wait until the site is back up again before posting again? or does it not matter if one posts now and then the messages come through when the site is back up?
 
I hope this goes through
 
Ellen Moody


moderated Groups.io is down ...

Ellen Moody
 

Dear People, 

I just read that Groups.io is down for maintenance. We were informed it will be back by 11 pm pacific time and 4 am UTC (? -- I don't know what that is). 

So, 1) When will groups.io be back EST or daylight savings time?

2) Is it better to wait until the site is back up again before posting again? or does it not matter if one posts now and then the messages come through when the site is back up?

I hope this goes through

Ellen Moody


moderated Re: Virus scanning

Michael Capelle <mike.capelle@...>
 

I agree with this Mark.
 
 

Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 10:24 PM
Subject: [beta] Virus scanning
 
Hi All,
 
I've been testing virus/phishing scanning the last few weeks and I'm pretty confident that it's catching what it should. In testing, it's scanning all emails, all uploaded files and photos. And right now, if the sender is not a subscriber, it drops any emails it finds has a virus or phishing attack.
 
My default implementation would be to turn it on so that it blocks all emails, files and photos that it finds has a virus or phishing attempt. Do you see any reason to not do it this way?
 
The scanner I'm using is here: http://www.clamav.net/
 
 
Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Virus scanning

Dave Sergeant
 

I have mixed feelings on this. Will it be possible to disable the virus
scanning on individual groups. Yahoogroups had virus scanning (probably
a far inferior system to what you are proposing) and we always disabled
it. Apart from the odd occasion when members had their Yahoo emails
hacked we never had any issues with viruses getting through. But my
groups are private groups with membership needing to be approved. Maybe
different for public groups.

Likewise with my email, I have disabled the server side filtering and
do it all myself with Mailwasher.

Dave

On 20 Aug 2018 at 20:24, Mark Fletcher wrote:

My default implementation would be to turn it on so that it blocks all
emails, files and photos that it finds has a virus or phishing attempt.
Do you see any reason to not do it this way?

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Virus scanning

 

On 21 Aug 2018, at 07:03, Lena <Lena@...> wrote:

If the sender is a subscriber then please moderate the message instead of dropping it. False positives are possible.

That seems sensible to me.

best

Nick
___

dUNMUR | member of the AOP


moderated Re: Virus scanning

Chris V
 

Mark

the only question I have is will group owners know what emails are rejected?

Otherwise sounds good to me

Chris

On 21/08/2018 04:24, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All,

I've been testing virus/phishing scanning the last few weeks and I'm pretty confident that it's catching what it should. In testing, it's scanning all emails, all uploaded files and photos. And right now, if the sender is not a subscriber, it drops any emails it finds has a virus or phishing attack.

My default implementation would be to turn it on so that it blocks all emails, files and photos that it finds has a virus or phishing attempt. Do you see any reason to not do it this way?

The scanner I'm using is here: http://www.clamav.net/


Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Virus scanning

 

Hi Mark,

if the sender is not
a subscriber, it drops any emails it finds has a virus or phishing attack.
If the sender is a subscriber then please moderate the message instead of dropping it. False positives are possible.

--
Lena


moderated Virus scanning

 

Hi All,

I've been testing virus/phishing scanning the last few weeks and I'm pretty confident that it's catching what it should. In testing, it's scanning all emails, all uploaded files and photos. And right now, if the sender is not a subscriber, it drops any emails it finds has a virus or phishing attack. 

My default implementation would be to turn it on so that it blocks all emails, files and photos that it finds has a virus or phishing attempt. Do you see any reason to not do it this way?

The scanner I'm using is here: http://www.clamav.net/


Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: override user posts

 

I was looking for command in this group and not finding it.  But there it is in groups I moderate.

Thanks Shal. Next time I have a problem I go the moderators group, which I didn't know about before.

Steve L


moderated Log direct-add message just as invite message is logged #suggestion

 

Invites are logged as "invited xyz with message pqr." Yet direct-adds are just logged as "invited xyz," without logging the message sent.
It would be helpful to log the message in that case as well.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Bob Bellizzi
 

That is, if Markhad no other system changes, corrections, requests to implement first?
--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: override user posts

 

Steve,

... cant find Settings -> etc.
It is in the Admin pages, on the left below Subscription and above Messages. If you don't see the Admin pages then you do not moderate the group (or do not have the needed permission); in which case sorry - that's a group setting and you can't change it.

So I guess in that case what you're asking for is the equivalent function, but as a Subscription setting for each individual member.

Shal


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

OTOH I guess you could keep counting the (non-operational) tags even when hashtags are disabled, and do everything else you'd normally do to them, just in case they're enabled again. It seems like more trouble than it's worth IMO.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: override user posts

 

not enough Sunday morning coffee in my system, cant find Settings -> etc.

Steve


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

So do you want any messages created between the time that hashtags are disabled and then re-enabled to be counted in the stats (etc.)for the hashtag(s) that had been temporarily disabled?

You have, say, 48 topics with #tagX. You disable hashtags, time goes by, and 50 more messages are created with #tagX and the tags are treated as plain text. Then you enable hashtags again.

Does the count for #tagX still show as 48, or do you want all of those 50 topics to be added to it? If so, it's a PITA for the system. If not, then the hashtag count is incorrect.

I think there are other issues but that's the first one that comes to mind.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Tom Vail
 

As I said in my suggestions, "When selected, "#anything" would be treated as plain text."  So if hashtags already exist in your group and hashtags are disabled, they just become plain text.  They are not removed, not invisible, they are just text.  If hashtags are enabled again, then they are processed as hashtags. 

I know this is a very simplistic view, but conceptionally processing the subject line would work like this:

     Are hashtags disabled?

         No - proceed with current processing (no change)

         Yes - go X, where X bypasses the hashtag processing routine

The same would happen when displaying the sidebar.  If disabled, no Hashtag tab is displayed.  So the hashtag page does not "go away" but is just not displayed.  If enabled, they would again display.  New hashtags would be processed according to the group settings.

Hope that makes it clearer.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam

Bob Bellizzi
 

Chris,
Thanks, & yes I track those things but also keep all emails including removed, Unsubscribed, rejoined joined, etc.
We even send an inquiry email to each one who unsubscribes for any reason asking them to tell us something about why they did so.
In about 95% of unsubscribes, we never receive a response to that.
Many of the responders say something intelligent like, "I set for individual emails and I've received too many"
If they are lurkers, we don't encourage rejoining but if they are contributors or actively seeking help we try to reach out and re-direct invite them.

I and my other owners/moderators/mentors have been operating this group for almost 20 years, long before Yahoo swallowed either e groups or ecircles, whichever came last.
I wasn't complaining.  I was just indicating that there has been a drastic reduction in the number of spam tagged messages and members recently.
Sometimes drastic changes indicate success & at other times, they might be flags indication something went wrong.

--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation

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