With absolutely no sarcasm intended, Mark runs this service like a pro. Marv

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 05:06 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

I'm happy to revert the change if it's more of an issue for people than word wrapping because the sidebar is too narrow.

I'm not going to pretend that it's a major issue because from my point of view it isn't; I was just wondering if (a) it was my fevered imagination, or (b) it was accidental.

As it's neither of the above I'll wait and see like everyone else.

Thanks for the prompt clarification.

Chris

Every one of my individual Groups.io groups has had the width of the (left hand) sidebar increased with the exception of the "summary" page with all my groups listed. As a result the side bar is much wider than it needs to be, and of course there has been a corresponding reduction in the width for the "substance" of any page.

Is this deliberate or a mishap of some sort? If intentional, what is the intent?

Chris

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:00 PM, "main@beta.groups.io Calendar" <main@beta.groups.io> wrote:

I will put up a banner on the site during the day of, announcing the downtime.

Not seeing any banners (yet?).  Will the banners be a manual thing or were they scheduled?  If scheduled, possibly related to the GO update?

Thanks,
Duane

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 08:55 AM, Susan Fox wrote:

This response is a bit OT, but the contrast is just too overwhelming not to mention

I had the same thoughts when I let my subscription team know about the problem with adds and invites the other day! Isn't it amazing to deal with someone who lets us know what's going on? They all agreed - having lived through many days of YG being totally "down" with not only no explanation, but no acknowledgement afterwards that it even happened. Wish we had switched years ago!

Barb

I got a notice this morning so the notice part of the process is working.

Jim H



Received from Bob Bellizzi at 8/16/2018 06:50 PM UTC

Bob,

Either you've entirely slammed the spam unsubscribe issue or something
else.

Candidates for "something else":

o The members using affected services learned to handle it,

o or left your group,

o or changed services.

o The spam filters of the affected services were told "not spam" often enough that they learned not to put your group's messages into the members' spam folders.

The first and last of which were the hoped-for goals of unsubscription as a teaching tool.

Shal

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 04:07 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Are you saying that no one on your list is getting unsubscribed for marking messages as spam,

Yes, not since July 18, 2018 have I seen any.  There were only 2 in July and about 14 in June, 11 in May, 5 in April, 7 in March.
We had 77 in the year ending July 18, 2018.
Not having one marked as spam in almost a month is very unusual.
I tend to track things and notice when they change.
Either you've entirely slammed the spam unsubscribe issue or something else.
Bob

 
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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 07:53 AM, J_Catlady wrote:

groups.io only provides 1 mg of free storage as opposed to yahoo's "very important" 2 mg.

Sorry, meant GB! I have cat meds on the brain. :)
 
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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 06:55 AM, Susan Fox wrote:

they should NOT resist the impulse to tell other groups how great Groups.IO is

Go ahead and tell people, but be prepared for strong resistance (and rotten eggs thrown in your face;). This morning the mod of that group posted another message saying the delay in my messages is my own ISP's fault (it's not), and that they looked into it and groups.io only provides 1 mg of free storage as opposed to yahoo's "very important" 2 mg. I know of several non-premium io groups with greater storage requirements than theirs, and I debated arguing, but I'm not going out on a limb again after what happened last time. 
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

This response is a bit OT, but the contrast is just too overwhelming not to mention: a couple of days ago I had to join a yahoo group because of a cat situation. I managed to get into my old account somehow and join (not an easy accomplishment - as some of you might remember, there's no "send me a link to log in" over there;) Every single one of my posts was delayed by hours or even, in one case, by an entire day. A couple of them posted relatively quickly, and of course out of order, resulting in a completely asynchronous conversation. It's like a complete disaster over there! I had really forgotten how bad things were! I posted something to the effect that my posts were being delayed (that post itself was delayed lol), and someone posted back, "Yahoo is a free service and we get what we pay for." I wanted to say, "Groups.io is also a free service, and when the site goes down even for an hour we get several days notice and banners go up informing everyone that posts will be slightly delayed, and there is an explanation for the downtime, etc." But of course I had to resist the impulse. Last time I tried that in a yahoo group, they shot the messenger. (Six months later, they moved to groups.io on their own. They sent me an invitation lol.)
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

Reminder:
Database upgrade #downtime

When:
Friday, 17 August 2018
9:00pm to 11:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Description:

The site will be down while I upgrade the main database server, along with a couple other machines. Emails sent during this time will be queued and sent when the site is back up.

I will put up a banner on the site during the day of, announcing the downtime.

View Event.

Mark,
I've had 19 unsubscribes since July 18, 2018 and I haven't seen one of these since that date, making 20..
Is the system still working for spam marked emails or is it disabled or broken?

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Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation

Good grief right back atcha! ;-)

I think owner opinion as to the value to Groups.io should be a factor when Mark makes his decision and the only way he'll get that is if open discussion of proposed changes is encouraged rather than discouraged.

Jim H



Received from Toby Kraft at 8/5/2018 02:14 PM UTC:

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 06:42 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Unfortunately and completely surprising to me, it did break parts of the site that deal with uploading files. Invites, direct adds, and profiles were the main areas affected.

That explains a few things that individuals were reporting on GMF. Someone else has fed back the substance of your post in at least one of the relevant threads.

Chris