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moderated Re: Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

Duane
 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:00 PM, "main@beta.groups.io Calendar" <main@beta.groups.io> wrote:
I will put up a banner on the site during the day of, announcing the downtime.
Not seeing any banners (yet?).  Will the banners be a manual thing or were they scheduled?  If scheduled, possibly related to the GO update?

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

Barb M
 

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 08:55 AM, Susan Fox wrote:


This response is a bit OT, but the contrast is just too overwhelming not to mention
I had the same thoughts when I let my subscription team know about the problem with adds and invites the other day! Isn't it amazing to deal with someone who lets us know what's going on? They all agreed - having lived through many days of YG being totally "down" with not only no explanation, but no acknowledgement afterwards that it even happened. Wish we had switched years ago!

Barb


moderated Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam

Jim Higgins
 

I got a notice this morning so the notice part of the process is working.

Jim H



Received from Bob Bellizzi at 8/16/2018 06:50 PM UTC

Yes, not since July 18, 2018 have I seen any.


moderated Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam

 

Bob,

Either you've entirely slammed the spam unsubscribe issue or something
else.
Candidates for "something else":

o The members using affected services learned to handle it,

o or left your group,

o or changed services.

o The spam filters of the affected services were told "not spam" often enough that they learned not to put your group's messages into the members' spam folders.

The first and last of which were the hoped-for goals of unsubscription as a teaching tool.

Shal


moderated Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam

Bob Bellizzi
 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 04:07 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Are you saying that no one on your list is getting unsubscribed for marking messages as spam,
Yes, not since July 18, 2018 have I seen any.  There were only 2 in July and about 14 in June, 11 in May, 5 in April, 7 in March.
We had 77 in the year ending July 18, 2018.
Not having one marked as spam in almost a month is very unusual.
I tend to track things and notice when they change.
Either you've entirely slammed the spam unsubscribe issue or something else.
Bob

 
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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

 

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 07:53 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
groups.io only provides 1 mg of free storage as opposed to yahoo's "very important" 2 mg.
Sorry, meant GB! I have cat meds on the brain. :)
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

 

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 06:55 AM, Susan Fox wrote:
they should NOT resist the impulse to tell other groups how great Groups.IO is
Go ahead and tell people, but be prepared for strong resistance (and rotten eggs thrown in your face;). This morning the mod of that group posted another message saying the delay in my messages is my own ISP's fault (it's not), and that they looked into it and groups.io only provides 1 mg of free storage as opposed to yahoo's "very important" 2 mg. I know of several non-premium io groups with greater storage requirements than theirs, and I debated arguing, but I'm not going out on a limb again after what happened last time. 
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

Susan Fox
 

I agree that Groups.IO is great. I would also tell people that they should NOT resist the impulse to tell other groups how great Groups.IO is.  With Big Tent also shutting down (I was offered a consulting job with them years ago) having platforms that suit our needs is super important.

 

Susan

SOOOO happy to have moved off Yahoo…

 

Re: Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm
From: J_Catlady
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 00:39:39 EDT

This response is a bit OT, but the contrast is just too overwhelming not to mention: a couple of days ago I had to join a yahoo group because of a cat situation. I managed to get into my old account somehow and join (not an easy accomplishment - as some of you might remember, there's no "send me a link to log in" over there;) Every single one of my posts was delayed by hours or even, in one case, by an entire day. A couple of them posted relatively quickly, and of course out of order, resulting in a completely asynchronous conversation. It's like a complete disaster over there! I had really forgotten how bad things were! I posted something to the effect that my posts were being delayed (that post itself was delayed lol), and someone posted back, "Yahoo is a free service and we get what we pay for." I wanted to say, "Groups.io is also a free service, and when the site goes down even for an hour we get several days notice and banners go up informing everyone that posts will be slightly delayed, and there is an explanation for the downtime, etc." But of course I had to resist the impulse. Last time I tried that in a yahoo group, they shot the messenger. (Six months later, they moved to groups.io on their own. They sent me an invitation lol.)
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

 

This response is a bit OT, but the contrast is just too overwhelming not to mention: a couple of days ago I had to join a yahoo group because of a cat situation. I managed to get into my old account somehow and join (not an easy accomplishment - as some of you might remember, there's no "send me a link to log in" over there;) Every single one of my posts was delayed by hours or even, in one case, by an entire day. A couple of them posted relatively quickly, and of course out of order, resulting in a completely asynchronous conversation. It's like a complete disaster over there! I had really forgotten how bad things were! I posted something to the effect that my posts were being delayed (that post itself was delayed lol), and someone posted back, "Yahoo is a free service and we get what we pay for." I wanted to say, "Groups.io is also a free service, and when the site goes down even for an hour we get several days notice and banners go up informing everyone that posts will be slightly delayed, and there is an explanation for the downtime, etc." But of course I had to resist the impulse. Last time I tried that in a yahoo group, they shot the messenger. (Six months later, they moved to groups.io on their own. They sent me an invitation lol.)
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Database upgrade #downtime - Fri, 8/17/18 9:00pm-11:00pm #downtime #cal-reminder

main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder:
Database upgrade #downtime

When:
Friday, 17 August 2018
9:00pm to 11:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Description:

The site will be down while I upgrade the main database server, along with a couple other machines. Emails sent during this time will be queued and sent when the site is back up.

I will put up a banner on the site during the day of, announcing the downtime.

View Event.


moderated Re: Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam

 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:

I've had 19 unsubscribes since July 18, 2018 and I haven't seen one of these since that date, making 20..
Is the system still working for spam marked emails or is it disabled or broken?

I'm not aware of any issues with the FBL stuff. Are you saying that no one on your list is getting unsubscribed for marking messages as spam, or are you saying that you're not receiving the notifications?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Unsubscribed because a message to them was marked as spam

Bob Bellizzi
 

Mark,
I've had 19 unsubscribes since July 18, 2018 and I haven't seen one of these since that date, making 20..
Is the system still working for spam marked emails or is it disabled or broken?

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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: #owner email addressing #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Good grief right back atcha! ;-)

I think owner opinion as to the value to Groups.io should be a factor when Mark makes his decision and the only way he'll get that is if open discussion of proposed changes is encouraged rather than discouraged.

Jim H



Received from Toby Kraft at 8/5/2018 02:14 PM UTC:

Good grief. It's only a suggestion. Mark gets to weigh the merits of it and decide if he wants to implement it.
Toby


moderated Re: Unexpected breakage last night

Chris Jones
 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 06:42 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Unfortunately and completely surprising to me, it did break parts of the site that deal with uploading files. Invites, direct adds, and profiles were the main areas affected.
That explains a few things that individuals were reporting on GMF. Someone else has fed back the substance of your post in at least one of the relevant threads.

Chris


moderated Unexpected breakage last night

 

Hi All,

Last night around 8:30pm pacific time I upgraded the Go toolchain from 1.9.4 to 1.10.3 and did a release to the site. This is the software that builds the software that runs the site. I reviewed all the changes before I upgraded it, and was confident that nothing would break (I upgrade the Go toolchain on a regular basis). Unfortunately and completely surprising to me, it did break parts of the site that deal with uploading files. Invites, direct adds, and profiles were the main areas affected. The bug would result in blank pages or your changes not going through.

I've changed the code to deal with the new behavior, and everything should be working again.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Closing a Poll automatically

Beth Weld
 

My group extensively uses polls to vote on various items, but we also use polls to take attendance every day during a multi-day meeting.  If the meeting lasts 3 days, then we have 3 polls, and the members should only be able to vote in the actual day's poll during that 24 hours. We have members all over the world so currently use the Central Time Zone as the official "day".  The issue is that someone has to manually close a poll at the exact time to limit the activity of the members voting in the wrong poll (should be voting in the next day's poll for example because after midnight in CST).

I have been asked to request a new feature that is very important to my group:  We need a way to automatically close a poll at a certain time without manual intervention.

I have also been asked to request another new feature - the ability to set up a poll in advance and have it "open" at a requested time without manual intervention.  I figured that this one would be harder to implement in the current structure so am making it a separate request.

Thanks a lot
Beth


moderated Netzero account?

 

Hi,

Do you have or do you know some who has a netzero.net account? If so, can you (or your friend) send me a message to markf@corp.groups.io? The content of the message is not important (although there should be something in the message). I am debugging my DKIM parsing code, and it's failing on at least some netzero.net messages. I want to know if it's me or if it's Netzero. By sending a message to me, it goes to my Gmail corporate account, which will tell me if Google thinks the DKIM sig is valid or not.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Group Setting to Enable From Address via groups.io #suggestion

Pete AE5PL
 

Also, I was incorrect in stating that Office 365 implemented DMARC.  They have not.  They have implemented signing but not actual DMARC screening so they will fail, as well.


moderated Re: Group Setting to Enable From Address via groups.io #suggestion

Pete AE5PL
 

So I guess this fell on deaf ears...  I was hopeful I could bring other groups over from Y! as I am not fond of where they are at this point but this is a deal killer for anyone on an enterprise system including Office 365 (Business and Enterprise) that are using Exchange and have their servers properly tightened to prevent spoofing of internal domains from outside sources.  If Mark is considering the fixes discussed here (group-level and user-level), I would hope to get an update as to potential implantation timeframe (loose, not exact).  Thanks.


moderated Template for recurring events #suggestion

Lew Volk
 

I'd like to have a template for recurring events. With a standardized form that an admin could just plug in the changed data. Then post to the group as a whole (just like the new topic button)
So maybe in Admin>Settings>Member Notices. There could be a new Notice Type "message to the group". Then someway for admins to select the Notice, Edit it and post it as New Topic.

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