On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 07:53 AM, J_Catlady wrote:

groups.io only provides 1 mg of free storage as opposed to yahoo's "very important" 2 mg.

Sorry, meant GB! I have cat meds on the brain. :)
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 06:55 AM, Susan Fox wrote:

they should NOT resist the impulse to tell other groups how great Groups.IO is

Go ahead and tell people, but be prepared for strong resistance (and rotten eggs thrown in your face;). This morning the mod of that group posted another message saying the delay in my messages is my own ISP's fault (it's not), and that they looked into it and groups.io only provides 1 mg of free storage as opposed to yahoo's "very important" 2 mg. I know of several non-premium io groups with greater storage requirements than theirs, and I debated arguing, but I'm not going out on a limb again after what happened last time. 
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

This response is a bit OT, but the contrast is just too overwhelming not to mention: a couple of days ago I had to join a yahoo group because of a cat situation. I managed to get into my old account somehow and join (not an easy accomplishment - as some of you might remember, there's no "send me a link to log in" over there;) Every single one of my posts was delayed by hours or even, in one case, by an entire day. A couple of them posted relatively quickly, and of course out of order, resulting in a completely asynchronous conversation. It's like a complete disaster over there! I had really forgotten how bad things were! I posted something to the effect that my posts were being delayed (that post itself was delayed lol), and someone posted back, "Yahoo is a free service and we get what we pay for." I wanted to say, "Groups.io is also a free service, and when the site goes down even for an hour we get several days notice and banners go up informing everyone that posts will be slightly delayed, and there is an explanation for the downtime, etc." But of course I had to resist the impulse. Last time I tried that in a yahoo group, they shot the messenger. (Six months later, they moved to groups.io on their own. They sent me an invitation lol.)
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

Reminder:
Database upgrade #downtime

When:
Friday, 17 August 2018
9:00pm to 11:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Description:

The site will be down while I upgrade the main database server, along with a couple other machines. Emails sent during this time will be queued and sent when the site is back up.

I will put up a banner on the site during the day of, announcing the downtime.

View Event.

Mark,
I've had 19 unsubscribes since July 18, 2018 and I haven't seen one of these since that date, making 20..
Is the system still working for spam marked emails or is it disabled or broken?

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Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation

Good grief right back atcha! ;-)

I think owner opinion as to the value to Groups.io should be a factor when Mark makes his decision and the only way he'll get that is if open discussion of proposed changes is encouraged rather than discouraged.

Jim H



Received from Toby Kraft at 8/5/2018 02:14 PM UTC:

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 06:42 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Unfortunately and completely surprising to me, it did break parts of the site that deal with uploading files. Invites, direct adds, and profiles were the main areas affected.

That explains a few things that individuals were reporting on GMF. Someone else has fed back the substance of your post in at least one of the relevant threads.

Chris

My group extensively uses polls to vote on various items, but we also use polls to take attendance every day during a multi-day meeting.  If the meeting lasts 3 days, then we have 3 polls, and the members should only be able to vote in the actual day's poll during that 24 hours. We have members all over the world so currently use the Central Time Zone as the official "day".  The issue is that someone has to manually close a poll at the exact time to limit the activity of the members voting in the wrong poll (should be voting in the next day's poll for example because after midnight in CST).

I have been asked to request a new feature that is very important to my group:  We need a way to automatically close a poll at a certain time without manual intervention.

I have also been asked to request another new feature - the ability to set up a poll in advance and have it "open" at a requested time without manual intervention.  I figured that this one would be harder to implement in the current structure so am making it a separate request.

Thanks a lot
Beth

Also, I was incorrect in stating that Office 365 implemented DMARC.  They have not.  They have implemented signing but not actual DMARC screening so they will fail, as well.

So I guess this fell on deaf ears...  I was hopeful I could bring other groups over from Y! as I am not fond of where they are at this point but this is a deal killer for anyone on an enterprise system including Office 365 (Business and Enterprise) that are using Exchange and have their servers properly tightened to prevent spoofing of internal domains from outside sources.  If Mark is considering the fixes discussed here (group-level and user-level), I would hope to get an update as to potential implantation timeframe (loose, not exact).  Thanks.

I'd like to have a template for recurring events. With a standardized form that an admin could just plug in the changed data. Then post to the group as a whole (just like the new topic button)
So maybe in Admin>Settings>Member Notices. There could be a new Notice Type "message to the group". Then someway for admins to select the Notice, Edit it and post it as New Topic.

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 04:46 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

It would be handy to have a mygroup+moderator alias that went to moderators
and owners.

mygroup+owner already does that. Sure, it would be more logical to use something like "mygroup+mods", but the -owner suffix is what most of us have been used to in yahoogroups for many years....

groetjes, Ronaldo

One of the first things I tried to do when setting up my first groups.io group
was to send mail to the moderators. Since mygroup+owner worked, I sent mail to
mygroup+moderator, which didn’t work.

One sample use: I do most the moderation, but I was going camping for a few
days. I let the other moderators know, so that moderation would still be
quick.

For most of my groups, all the moderators are owners, but as a group member,
I’d probably still try and send email to moderator if there was a
moderation-related question.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@wunderwood.org
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 04:13 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:

I tried to add a row to a database I was using to test this functionality, and I receive this error.

 

Whoops. Fixed now.

 

Thanks,

Mark 

 OK, thanks - ignore my previous message about the exporting to csv. I doubted that was what corrected the problem.
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Gerald

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 04:02 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:

I tried to add a row to a database I was using to test this functionality, and I receive this error.

template: groupaddrow.html:156:43: executing "groupaddrow.html" at <index $.RowVals $ind...>: error calling index: index out of range: 1

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Gerald

Follow up;

I re-tried the add a row test and continued to receive the same error. I even tried logging and out and back in. Finally, I wanted to review the information in the database, so I did an export to csv. Now, add a row works again.

I don't know what to make of this, sorry.
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Gerald