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moderated Direct Add puts a quote mark as first charter in name field from a file

Tom Vail
 

I'm trying to do a direct add into a group from a CSV file and the results from my test file have a double quote as the first character in the name field?

The CSV file looks like this:



And the results look like this:



And on top of that, none of the appended email delivery options were noted.

Am I doing something wrong, or did I find a bug?  

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

J,

Oh, you mean the display name of the email address, not her groups.io display name. But that's not it, either. It's showing "xyz@....

Correct, I was thinking that the From field might say something like:
From: "xyz@..." <subscription-address@...>
However...

 I asked the member in question about it this morning and she said "oh, I sometimes post from my other email address, sorry." But I don't know how she can do that without having an alias.

That does sound like an Alias, except that I thought when I tested it that the alias in a Groups.io account put the subscription address in the outbound From field, so you wouldn't see this confusion.

Possibly the alias is staring me in the face on her member page but I'm still not seeing any. I've emailed the details to Mark at support.

I'm interested in what you find out.

Shal


moderated Re: Identify my role when visiting a group

 

Haha!

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Mark,

I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think.
Love it!

Now I almost want someone to get confused so that I can screenshot it for him/her. ;-)

Shal



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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

Oh, you mean the display name of the email address, not her groups.io display name. But that's not it, either. It's showing "xyz@....
 I asked the member in question about it this morning and she said "oh, I sometimes post from my other email address, sorry." But I don't know how she can do that without having an alias. Possibly the alias is staring me in the face on her member page but I'm still not seeing any. I've emailed the details to Mark at support.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:54 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
No. It's showing her other email address. Not the display name or anything associated with her groups.io account. Zero and zilch. That's why I initially could not identify her.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

J,

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
Your email interface may be showing you just the Display Name part of the From address. See if there's a way to have it show you the rest of the address. I have that problem looking at some member's messages in Gmail's web interface, I have to click the little "Show details" icon to see the full From address.

Shal



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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Identify my role when visiting a group

 

Mark,

I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think.
Love it!

Now I almost want someone to get confused so that I can screenshot it for him/her. ;-)

Shal


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

No. It's showing her other email address. Not the display name or anything associated with her groups.io account. Zero and zilch. That's why I initially could not identify her.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

J,

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
Your email interface may be showing you just the Display Name part of the From address. See if there's a way to have it show you the rest of the address. I have that problem looking at some member's messages in Gmail's web interface, I have to click the little "Show details" icon to see the full From address.

Shal



--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

J,

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
Your email interface may be showing you just the Display Name part of the From address. See if there's a way to have it show you the rest of the address. I have that problem looking at some member's messages in Gmail's web interface, I have to click the little "Show details" icon to see the full From address.

Shal


moderated Re: When trying to join or to log in refresh actual page

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Victoria wrote:
I´ve been asked about this by new members: After having found the group they want to join prospective members find themselves on a different site after the signing up procedure. Especially for not English speaking people this is quite confusing. All a sudden they are somewhere different from what they originally requested.
I agree (again). See original suggestion cf https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/22666442#17529 

Bruce


moderated Re: Identify my role when visiting a group

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 05:43 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think
Neat!

Chris


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 09:31 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
A member's email aliases are listed on the member page ... Or are you asking about something else

Mark, I'm not sure any more what I'm asking about. I have a group member who consistently posts using a different email address from what she's subscribed under, and the email address she posts from is neither listed as an alias of hers nor is subscribed as a separate member. How is this possible? I assumed she was posting under an alias and I just couldn't see or find it on her page. I will email you the details to support, unless someone here can explain this. Thanks.
 
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Identify my role when visiting a group

 

Hi Shal,

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Mark,

When visiting a group's pages, logged in to an address which is a moderator or owner of that group, I'd like to see my Mod or Owner badge. Somewhere.


I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

It might be useful to note that if the member has no aliases, nothing regarding Aliases is shown on the member page.
If there are aliases, then there is a section titled "Aliases" under the Joined date that lists them.
Toby


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

Hi J,

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:36 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
This morning a new member posted from a completely unknown (to me) email address. I found the pending message in my email. There is no identifying information in the pending notice about who this member is.

This was disconcerting. Based on the content, I had a theory about who it was and went into that person's member page, but it turns out moderators don't have access to members' email aliases. So I couldn't be sure.


A member's email aliases are listed on the member page (go to Members under Settings, then click a member). Or are you asking about something else?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated When trying to join or to log in refresh actual page

 

I´ve been asked about this by new members: After having found the group they want to join prospective members find themselves on a different site after the signing up procedure. Especially for not English speaking people this is quite confusing. All a sudden they are somewhere different from what they originally requested.

 

Same happens when being logged out and wanting to log in. Site changes. It would be nice if one could stay on the same site one is on before the procedure of signing up or logging in.

 

Victoria


moderated Re: Auto refresh active chat screen

 

Hello,

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:18 PM Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...> wrote:
Using chat is problematic because unless the screen is manually refreshed no responses appear. This seems to be a fundamental downside for a synchronous communication tool.
Could any active chat window be set up to auto-refresh after some appropriate interval?

It should do this already (ie behave like a normal chat window). If it isn't doing that, please send an email to support with the browser you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
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moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

Marv,

I was thinking of something less sophisticated than a database interface.

I only mentioned it because it is a feature that already exists.
I have to admit that I haven't explored the groups.io database feature adequately. I spent many years building RDBMSs and applications on top of them.

There's no "R" about it, only simple unrelated tables. Nothing fancy, but the fields (columns) can be assigned different data types, which helps guide the user in filling them out with the correct type of information.
Shal


moderated Auto refresh active chat screen

Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...>
 

Using chat is problematic because unless the screen is manually refreshed no responses appear. This seems to be a fundamental downside for a synchronous communication tool.
Could any active chat window be set up to auto-refresh after some appropriate interval?
Thank you
Matty


moderated Re: Edit indicator #suggestion

KWKloeber
 

Additionally, (I'm new to this group) The Save Without Resending to the Group
option that is available to moderators --- Request that this option be made available to ALL members (who have permission to edit,)

OR should be the DEFAULT and and "Resend" be a check box or something to dissuade resendring most of the edits.
This would do away with so many re-posting of minor typo and spelling edits that drive other memebrs crazy with so many emails.

-ken


moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

Marv Waschke
 

Shal--
I was thinking of something less sophisticated than a database interface. The output would be a text document that could be sent as an email. That certainly could be done with a database behind it, which would be searchable and you could design and generate reports, but I was only thinking about a configurable template for prompting users to produce emails in which data is presented uniformly.

Off-hand, I am imagining an app with a moderator-mode for building templates, which would be something like the HTML editor on the groups.io site that I am typing into right now, but set up to drag and drop a few simple widgets, like labels, limited length text boxes, and drop-downs.  The user-mode would display the template and the user gets to fill in the blanks. Hitting the send button transmits an email to groups.io for distribution. It could be either browser-based or an app. Nothing fancy and pretty much old-school. (Except for the AI piece scanning existing group email and automatically generating suggested templates. Kidding!) I suppose it might be useful to have a class of subscribers limited to templated emails.

I have to admit that I haven't explored the groups.io database feature adequately. I spent many years building RDBMSs and applications on top of them. Now, out of sheer laziness, I tend to shy away from anything that suggests an RDBMS. Not really a good thing...
Best, Marv

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