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moderated Re: "mark as unread" function #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 06:25 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
If you clear your browser history that will reset all messages to unread. Depending on your browser, it may be possible to remove just the one message's URL from your browser history and thereby revert its color.
Having had a quick look it would seem that Firefox won't allow individual items to be cleared.

However, having thought about this a bit more, there is no obvious reason to suppose that it is only Owners & Moderators that might find a "Follow - up" capability useful; individual members might find it helpful as well. So... I will withdraw my earlier suggestion of incorporating it into the facilities currently on trial on the -test page and suggest that consideration be given to adding it to the "More" tab on each individual message, with the "Follow - up Flag" being an additional tab on the left hand side in much the same way as Drafts do.

Chris


moderated Re: #owner email addressing #suggestion

 

Toby,

Or add a footer to the message showing the address it
was sent to like is now done for regular posts.
I like that choice.

Note: the approval email *is* addressed to the owner, perhaps it
should have a footer also that says "Login to <email address> to
administer your new group." or some such...
... or some such. Said that tersely the user might think it means to log in to their email service.

The wording needs to be clear that the user needs to log in to Groups.io, putting that email address in the Email Address box on the Login page.

Shal


moderated #owner email addressing #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

From time to time in GMF, we get questions from people that create groups and can't find them, sometimes because they don't recall the email address they were logged into when the group was created.
So I thought one way to figure out what email address "owns" the group would be to search for it and send an email to the group owner address.  I expected that email to be sent To: the actual owner email address(es).  But alas, the message is addressed To: group+owner@groups.io with no easy way to view the destination address it was sent to (it's in the headers).
Seems like it would be useful to address the owner email To: the actual owner email address(es) and put a tag like [group+owner@groups.io] in the subject line.  Or add a footer to the message showing the address it was sent to like is now done for regular posts.
That way a "lost" owner can search for their group and send an owner email and when he/she gets it can see "Oh, I need to be logged in with that email address to administer this group!" ;)
Thanks,
Toby
Note: the approval email is addressed to the owner, perhaps it should have a footer also that says "Login to <email address> to administer your new group." or some such...


moderated Re: "mark as unread" function #suggestion

 

Oh, yeah, Shal, I totally forgot. 
Well, it SHOULD! :-)

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
J,

> It would be convenient to be able to mark messages as "unread" (i.e.,
> make them turn back to blue).

Groups.io does not (as yet) track which messages you've read. Your browser is doing that. Your browser history is a collection of the links you've visited - those are rendered in a different color than those you haven't.

If you clear your browser history that will reset all messages to unread. Depending on your browser, it may be possible to remove just the one message's URL from your browser history and thereby revert its color.

Shal





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J

 

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I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "mark as unread" function #suggestion

 

J,

It would be convenient to be able to mark messages as "unread" (i.e.,
make them turn back to blue).
Groups.io does not (as yet) track which messages you've read. Your browser is doing that. Your browser history is a collection of the links you've visited - those are rendered in a different color than those you haven't.

If you clear your browser history that will reset all messages to unread. Depending on your browser, it may be possible to remove just the one message's URL from your browser history and thereby revert its color.

Shal


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

 

Mark,

 

concerning updates in privacy policy and compliance with GDPR, shouldn´t the date of last revision be July or August 2018 instead of still carrying the date of Sept. 15th, 2014?

 

https://groups.io/static/privacy

 

Victoria


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • CHANGE: Only rate limit messages to members from other members, not mods/owners.
  • NEW: Display Owner/Mod badges on group sidebar.
  • NEW: Added domain/subdomain setup information to the help page.
  • SYSADMIN: Migrated one of the DNS servers to a new machine.
  • CHANGE: Updated and added sections about our data processing agreement and other aspects of GDPR.
  • API: New group field: subgroup_category_id.
  • NEW: Subgroup categories.
  • NEW: Removed scrolling and reformatted subgroup list page.

I had not been including updates to the API in the #changelog reports. I will start doing so now.

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark


moderated Re: "mark as unread" function #suggestion

 

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 07:33 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
It might need something more positive than simply "reverting to blue" as a warning flag, though.

I haven't been following the test version of the topics page and I'm not sure what you mean by this, but I think that a new "mark unread" feature should result in nothing different than the current indicator for "unread," namely, making the message appear blue in the list. There should probably also be a "mark read" function that does the opposite.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "mark as unread" function #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 02:56 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I have been resorting to marking them unread in my email.
Mark; could Follow - up be added to the functions currently on offer on the "-test" version of the Topics page? It might need something more positive than simply "reverting to blue" as a warning flag, though.

That would provide the facility that J asks for and might well have wider applications.

Chris.


moderated Re: "mark as unread" function #suggestion

 

p.s. As a hack, I have been resorting to marking them unread in my email. But this can be a PITA, because then, after dealing with the message on the site, I have to go back to email AGAIN and mark them "read." I'd rather to be able to deal with their read/unread status on the site.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated "mark as unread" function #suggestion

 

Sometimes I read a message in my group but don't have time to respond to it, but OTOH I don't want to forget that it's still on my todo list. It would be convenient to be able to mark messages as "unread" (i.e., make them turn back to blue).
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Direct Add puts a quote mark as first charter in name field from a file

Tom Vail
 

Bob,

That was the problem.  Removed them with the text editor and am good to go.

Thank you.

Peace,
Tomk


moderated Re: Auto refresh active chat screen

Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...>
 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 02:32 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It should do this already (ie behave like a normal chat window). If it isn't doing that, please send an email to support with the browser you're using.
Hi Mark
I will do this but just to put this into context, it was an issue 5 of us had when trying to have a chat - all using different browsers and on different types of devices. And when I initially posted the issue in the Group Managers Froim, another user replied that his group were having the same issue. That rather suggests it is not an issue specific to one user configuration.
Thanks
Matty


moderated Re: Direct Add puts a quote mark as first charter in name field from a file

Bob Bellizzi
 


I think  you'll find that Excel is storing the quotation marks around text fields because that is the standard.

Open the file using Notepad on windows machine and you will  see the quotations are in the stored file.

The alternative is that the program that generated the file might have done it.

You usually can control this behavior by doing a File/SaveAs and setting the individual options.

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Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

Beta apparently is set to mask email addresses, so what shows up in my post quoting the pending notification is not actually what I see in the notification . The notification doesn't figleaf - it shows the entire email address, which I'll rewrite here as

xyz [at] gmail.com
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

This is what the pending notification looks like:

A message was sent to the group https://groups.io/g/Feline_Smallcell_Lymphoma from xyz@... that needs to be approved (bla bla bla).
There is no indication of who the member is, or her actually subscribed email address. After the message is approved, it comes through showing her subscribed email address, not the xyz address. So the problem manifests in the pending notification, not the email that comes through. Still, I don't understand how she can be doing this with xyz not being an alias. (If xyz is an alias and I simply am not seeing it in her member page, there is STILL the problem that the pending notice doesn't tell me who she is, or link in any way to her subscribed address.)
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Direct Add puts a quote mark as first charter in name field from a file

Tom Vail
 

I'm trying to do a direct add into a group from a CSV file and the results from my test file have a double quote as the first character in the name field?

The CSV file looks like this:



And the results look like this:



And on top of that, none of the appended email delivery options were noted.

Am I doing something wrong, or did I find a bug?  

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

J,

Oh, you mean the display name of the email address, not her groups.io display name. But that's not it, either. It's showing "xyz@....

Correct, I was thinking that the From field might say something like:
From: "xyz@..." <subscription-address@...>
However...

 I asked the member in question about it this morning and she said "oh, I sometimes post from my other email address, sorry." But I don't know how she can do that without having an alias.

That does sound like an Alias, except that I thought when I tested it that the alias in a Groups.io account put the subscription address in the outbound From field, so you wouldn't see this confusion.

Possibly the alias is staring me in the face on her member page but I'm still not seeing any. I've emailed the details to Mark at support.

I'm interested in what you find out.

Shal


moderated Re: Identify my role when visiting a group

 

Haha!

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Mark,

I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think.
Love it!

Now I almost want someone to get confused so that I can screenshot it for him/her. ;-)

Shal



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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

Oh, you mean the display name of the email address, not her groups.io display name. But that's not it, either. It's showing "xyz@....
 I asked the member in question about it this morning and she said "oh, I sometimes post from my other email address, sorry." But I don't know how she can do that without having an alias. Possibly the alias is staring me in the face on her member page but I'm still not seeing any. I've emailed the details to Mark at support.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:54 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
No. It's showing her other email address. Not the display name or anything associated with her groups.io account. Zero and zilch. That's why I initially could not identify her.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

J,

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
Your email interface may be showing you just the Display Name part of the From address. See if there's a way to have it show you the rest of the address. I have that problem looking at some member's messages in Gmail's web interface, I have to click the little "Show details" icon to see the full From address.

Shal



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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

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