Mark,

I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think.

Love it!

Now I almost want someone to get confused so that I can screenshot it for him/her. ;-)

Shal

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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

J,

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.

Your email interface may be showing you just the Display Name part of the From address. See if there's a way to have it show you the rest of the address. I have that problem looking at some member's messages in Gmail's web interface, I have to click the little "Show details" icon to see the full From address.

Shal

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Victoria wrote:

I´ve been asked about this by new members: After having found the group they want to join prospective members find themselves on a different site after the signing up procedure. Especially for not English speaking people this is quite confusing. All a sudden they are somewhere different from what they originally requested.

I agree (again). See original suggestion cf https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/22666442#17529 

Bruce

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 05:43 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think

Neat!

Chris

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 09:31 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

A member's email aliases are listed on the member page ... Or are you asking about something else

Mark, I'm not sure any more what I'm asking about. I have a group member who consistently posts using a different email address from what she's subscribed under, and the email address she posts from is neither listed as an alias of hers nor is subscribed as a separate member. How is this possible? I assumed she was posting under an alias and I just couldn't see or find it on her page. I will email you the details to support, unless someone here can explain this. Thanks.
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

It might be useful to note that if the member has no aliases, nothing regarding Aliases is shown on the member page.
If there are aliases, then there is a section titled "Aliases" under the Joined date that lists them.
Toby

Using chat is problematic because unless the screen is manually refreshed no responses appear. This seems to be a fundamental downside for a synchronous communication tool.
Could any active chat window be set up to auto-refresh after some appropriate interval?
Thank you
Matty

Additionally, (I'm new to this group) The Save Without Resending to the Group
option that is available to moderators --- Request that this option be made available to ALL members (who have permission to edit,)

OR should be the DEFAULT and and "Resend" be a check box or something to dissuade resendring most of the edits.
This would do away with so many re-posting of minor typo and spelling edits that drive other memebrs crazy with so many emails.

-ken

Shal--
I was thinking of something less sophisticated than a database interface. The output would be a text document that could be sent as an email. That certainly could be done with a database behind it, which would be searchable and you could design and generate reports, but I was only thinking about a configurable template for prompting users to produce emails in which data is presented uniformly.

Off-hand, I am imagining an app with a moderator-mode for building templates, which would be something like the HTML editor on the groups.io site that I am typing into right now, but set up to drag and drop a few simple widgets, like labels, limited length text boxes, and drop-downs.  The user-mode would display the template and the user gets to fill in the blanks. Hitting the send button transmits an email to groups.io for distribution. It could be either browser-based or an app. Nothing fancy and pretty much old-school. (Except for the AI piece scanning existing group email and automatically generating suggested templates. Kidding!) I suppose it might be useful to have a class of subscribers limited to templated emails.

I have to admit that I haven't explored the groups.io database feature adequately. I spent many years building RDBMSs and applications on top of them. Now, out of sheer laziness, I tend to shy away from anything that suggests an RDBMS. Not really a good thing...
Best, Marv

On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Michael Pavan <michaelpavan@comcast.net> wrote:

Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last


I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?

Maybe the fix is:
1) Reposition "Repeat by day of the week” to after “Repeats” drop down menu, but before "Repeat Every” drop down menu - and perhaps "Repeat by day of the month” button, too

2) Change "Repeat by day of the week” from a button (on/off) to a drop down menu (First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last)
[Let the user set this, rather than have an algorithm try to figure it out if it is Fourth, Fifth, or Last when the day is the 29th, 30th, or 31st of a month]

3) If “Last” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu

Oops, 3) should be:
3) If “Fifth” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu

Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last


I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?

Maybe the fix is:
1) Reposition "Repeat by day of the week” to after “Repeats” drop down menu, but before "Repeat Every” drop down menu - and perhaps "Repeat by day of the month” button, too

2) Change "Repeat by day of the week” from a button (on/off) to a drop down menu (First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last)
[Let the user set this, rather than have an algorithm try to figure it out if it is Fourth, Fifth, or Last when the day is the 29th, 30th, or 31st of a month]

3) If “Last” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu

My first reaction is to say that's daft. Who wants an event that skips some months? So one possibility is just to change the logic (and that text) to implement "last" instead of "fifth".

We have a group that meets different places on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Tuesdays. When a month with a 5th Tuesday occurs we have a ‘bonus’ meeting at another location.

Another group’s event is scheduled for the last Saturday of the month.

4th, 5th, and Last are different, and should not be mixed up.