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moderated When trying to join or to log in refresh actual page

 

I´ve been asked about this by new members: After having found the group they want to join prospective members find themselves on a different site after the signing up procedure. Especially for not English speaking people this is quite confusing. All a sudden they are somewhere different from what they originally requested.

 

Same happens when being logged out and wanting to log in. Site changes. It would be nice if one could stay on the same site one is on before the procedure of signing up or logging in.

 

Victoria


moderated Re: Auto refresh active chat screen

 

Hello,

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:18 PM Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...> wrote:
Using chat is problematic because unless the screen is manually refreshed no responses appear. This seems to be a fundamental downside for a synchronous communication tool.
Could any active chat window be set up to auto-refresh after some appropriate interval?

It should do this already (ie behave like a normal chat window). If it isn't doing that, please send an email to support with the browser you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
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moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

Marv,

I was thinking of something less sophisticated than a database interface.

I only mentioned it because it is a feature that already exists.
I have to admit that I haven't explored the groups.io database feature adequately. I spent many years building RDBMSs and applications on top of them.

There's no "R" about it, only simple unrelated tables. Nothing fancy, but the fields (columns) can be assigned different data types, which helps guide the user in filling them out with the correct type of information.
Shal


moderated Auto refresh active chat screen

Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...>
 

Using chat is problematic because unless the screen is manually refreshed no responses appear. This seems to be a fundamental downside for a synchronous communication tool.
Could any active chat window be set up to auto-refresh after some appropriate interval?
Thank you
Matty


moderated Re: Edit indicator #suggestion

KWKloeber
 

Additionally, (I'm new to this group) The Save Without Resending to the Group
option that is available to moderators --- Request that this option be made available to ALL members (who have permission to edit,)

OR should be the DEFAULT and and "Resend" be a check box or something to dissuade resendring most of the edits.
This would do away with so many re-posting of minor typo and spelling edits that drive other memebrs crazy with so many emails.

-ken


moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

Marv Waschke
 

Shal--
I was thinking of something less sophisticated than a database interface. The output would be a text document that could be sent as an email. That certainly could be done with a database behind it, which would be searchable and you could design and generate reports, but I was only thinking about a configurable template for prompting users to produce emails in which data is presented uniformly.

Off-hand, I am imagining an app with a moderator-mode for building templates, which would be something like the HTML editor on the groups.io site that I am typing into right now, but set up to drag and drop a few simple widgets, like labels, limited length text boxes, and drop-downs.  The user-mode would display the template and the user gets to fill in the blanks. Hitting the send button transmits an email to groups.io for distribution. It could be either browser-based or an app. Nothing fancy and pretty much old-school. (Except for the AI piece scanning existing group email and automatically generating suggested templates. Kidding!) I suppose it might be useful to have a class of subscribers limited to templated emails.

I have to admit that I haven't explored the groups.io database feature adequately. I spent many years building RDBMSs and applications on top of them. Now, out of sheer laziness, I tend to shy away from anything that suggests an RDBMS. Not really a good thing...
Best, Marv


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Michael Pavan
 

On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Michael Pavan <michaelpavan@comcast.net> wrote:


Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last


I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?
Maybe the fix is:
1) Reposition "Repeat by day of the week” to after “Repeats” drop down menu, but before "Repeat Every” drop down menu - and perhaps "Repeat by day of the month” button, too

2) Change "Repeat by day of the week” from a button (on/off) to a drop down menu (First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last)
[Let the user set this, rather than have an algorithm try to figure it out if it is Fourth, Fifth, or Last when the day is the 29th, 30th, or 31st of a month]

3) If “Last” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu
Oops, 3) should be:
3) If “Fifth” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Michael Pavan
 

Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last


I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?
Maybe the fix is:
1) Reposition "Repeat by day of the week” to after “Repeats” drop down menu, but before "Repeat Every” drop down menu - and perhaps "Repeat by day of the month” button, too

2) Change "Repeat by day of the week” from a button (on/off) to a drop down menu (First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last)
[Let the user set this, rather than have an algorithm try to figure it out if it is Fourth, Fifth, or Last when the day is the 29th, 30th, or 31st of a month]

3) If “Last” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Michael Pavan
 

My first reaction is to say that's daft. Who wants an event that skips some months? So one possibility is just to change the logic (and that text) to implement "last" instead of "fifth".
We have a group that meets different places on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Tuesdays. When a month with a 5th Tuesday occurs we have a ‘bonus’ meeting at another location.

Another group’s event is scheduled for the last Saturday of the month.

4th, 5th, and Last are different, and should not be mixed up.


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Dave Wade
 

Mark,

 

I don’t think its possible to map this into the existing system, which is why we are asking. There are two options, set it to the fourth and then manually adjust those months where there are five of the days of interest, and then when saving choose “just this event”, or create a “fourth” and a “fifth” day of the month event and delete the fourths where there is a fifth.

 

Dave

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: 02 August 2018 05:47
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

 

Hi Michael,

 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Michael Pavan <michaelpavan@...> wrote:

Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last

 

I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?

 

Thanks,

Mark 


moderated Re: Creation of Sub-Albums in the Photo-Section

Beth Weld
 

This would be an extremely helpful feature for my groups and make organizing photos so much easier.
Thanks
Beth


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

 

Mark,

Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd
add?
Pick August 29th (the next example date) and create an event on it.
o Check Event Repeats
o Select Monthly
o Repeat every 1 Month
o Repeat by day of week

The repeat Summary says "Monthly on the Fifth Wednesday".

My first reaction is to say that's daft. Who wants an event that skips some months? So one possibility is just to change the logic (and that text) to implement "last" instead of "fifth".

But undoubtedly some users do. So the other option is to, in that case, reveal a control (radio buttons) to select between "fifth" and "last", probably just below the control that selects between "day of the week" and "day of the month".

Shal


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

 

Hi Michael,

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Michael Pavan <michaelpavan@...> wrote:
Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last


I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Include "attempted to send message to locked topic" in searchable actions #suggestion

 

"Attempted to send message to locked topic" is logged in Message Activity but does not seem to be searchable. Could it be added to the searchable actions?
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

Marv,

An elementary "fill in-the-blanks form" feature in groups.io could be
useful in many ways.
Sounds like you're describing the Add Row screen in a Database table.

Using a database table to define the template signature would have its merits, in terms of giving the moderator tools to define the data type for each field.

The table itself would also provide the group owner with a central place to view and edit all of the member's signatures, without having to go to each member's page individually.

Sounds like that other idea floating around: application forms for restricted groups.

If I were building it, I would probably take a browser or app approach
rather than try to mangle it into a email client.
The member updates his/her sig via the Subscription page in each group. So filling in the form would naturally be a web interface, not something done by email. If the group owner chose this option, the form fields would replace the single text box now provided for editing your signature.

Shal


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Dan Hartford
 

Me too.  Mimicking the repeat options from MS/Outlook would be pretty robust.


moderated Re: Creation of Sub-Albums in the Photo-Section

Chris Aldrich
 

Thanks, Gerald - this helps a lot! Now to get our members to use it!

...

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:33 PM, Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Chris Aldrich wrote:
It would be great if there could be descriptions and/or hashtags that could be associated with photos.
 
Chris
In the Photos section, you can already add a description by clicking on a Photo and then clicking the Edit button. While it is possible to type a hashtag in the description, I don't believe there is any type of search available at all for photo descriptions at this time.
 
--
Gerald



moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

Marv Waschke
 

An elementary "fill in-the-blanks form" feature in groups.io could be useful in many ways. I could see it used as J_Catlady describes -- whenever a group has repeated transfers of information that would benefit from a uniform information set and layout.

There would be challenges. If I were building it, I would probably take a browser or app approach rather than try to mangle it into a email client. And I am not sure what priority I would assign to it, but it certainly is an intriguing possibility.
Marv


moderated Re: Creation of Sub-Albums in the Photo-Section

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Chris Aldrich wrote:
It would be great if there could be descriptions and/or hashtags that could be associated with photos.
 
Chris
In the Photos section, you can already add a description by clicking on a Photo and then clicking the Edit button. While it is possible to type a hashtag in the description, I don't believe there is any type of search available at all for photo descriptions at this time.
 
--
Gerald


moderated Re: Creation of Sub-Albums in the Photo-Section

Chris Aldrich
 

It would be great if there could be descriptions and/or hashtags that could be associated with photos.

Chris

...

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

It wold be really great if there was a possibility to create sub-folders for albums in the photo section. Same as is possible in the file section where you can create folders and sub-folders.

Victoria


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