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moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

J,

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
Your email interface may be showing you just the Display Name part of the From address. See if there's a way to have it show you the rest of the address. I have that problem looking at some member's messages in Gmail's web interface, I have to click the little "Show details" icon to see the full From address.

Shal


moderated Re: When trying to join or to log in refresh actual page

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Victoria wrote:
I´ve been asked about this by new members: After having found the group they want to join prospective members find themselves on a different site after the signing up procedure. Especially for not English speaking people this is quite confusing. All a sudden they are somewhere different from what they originally requested.
I agree (again). See original suggestion cf https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/22666442#17529 

Bruce


moderated Re: Identify my role when visiting a group

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 05:43 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think
Neat!

Chris


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

p.s. The logs show the messages as coming from her subscribed address, but in my inbox, they look like they're from the non-subscribed address and it's impossible to glean any information about the group member's identity.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 09:31 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
A member's email aliases are listed on the member page ... Or are you asking about something else

Mark, I'm not sure any more what I'm asking about. I have a group member who consistently posts using a different email address from what she's subscribed under, and the email address she posts from is neither listed as an alias of hers nor is subscribed as a separate member. How is this possible? I assumed she was posting under an alias and I just couldn't see or find it on her page. I will email you the details to support, unless someone here can explain this. Thanks.
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Identify my role when visiting a group

 

Hi Shal,

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Mark,

When visiting a group's pages, logged in to an address which is a moderator or owner of that group, I'd like to see my Mod or Owner badge. Somewhere.


I added it after Home. Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

Toby Kraft
 

It might be useful to note that if the member has no aliases, nothing regarding Aliases is shown on the member page.
If there are aliases, then there is a section titled "Aliases" under the Joined date that lists them.
Toby


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

Hi J,

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:36 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
This morning a new member posted from a completely unknown (to me) email address. I found the pending message in my email. There is no identifying information in the pending notice about who this member is.

This was disconcerting. Based on the content, I had a theory about who it was and went into that person's member page, but it turns out moderators don't have access to members' email aliases. So I couldn't be sure.


A member's email aliases are listed on the member page (go to Members under Settings, then click a member). Or are you asking about something else?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated When trying to join or to log in refresh actual page

 

I´ve been asked about this by new members: After having found the group they want to join prospective members find themselves on a different site after the signing up procedure. Especially for not English speaking people this is quite confusing. All a sudden they are somewhere different from what they originally requested.

 

Same happens when being logged out and wanting to log in. Site changes. It would be nice if one could stay on the same site one is on before the procedure of signing up or logging in.

 

Victoria


moderated Re: Auto refresh active chat screen

 

Hello,

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:18 PM Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...> wrote:
Using chat is problematic because unless the screen is manually refreshed no responses appear. This seems to be a fundamental downside for a synchronous communication tool.
Could any active chat window be set up to auto-refresh after some appropriate interval?

It should do this already (ie behave like a normal chat window). If it isn't doing that, please send an email to support with the browser you're using.

Thanks,
Mark
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moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

Marv,

I was thinking of something less sophisticated than a database interface.

I only mentioned it because it is a feature that already exists.
I have to admit that I haven't explored the groups.io database feature adequately. I spent many years building RDBMSs and applications on top of them.

There's no "R" about it, only simple unrelated tables. Nothing fancy, but the fields (columns) can be assigned different data types, which helps guide the user in filling them out with the correct type of information.
Shal


moderated Auto refresh active chat screen

Matty Smith <mattysmith.smith@...>
 

Using chat is problematic because unless the screen is manually refreshed no responses appear. This seems to be a fundamental downside for a synchronous communication tool.
Could any active chat window be set up to auto-refresh after some appropriate interval?
Thank you
Matty


moderated Re: Edit indicator #suggestion

KWKloeber
 

Additionally, (I'm new to this group) The Save Without Resending to the Group
option that is available to moderators --- Request that this option be made available to ALL members (who have permission to edit,)

OR should be the DEFAULT and and "Resend" be a check box or something to dissuade resendring most of the edits.
This would do away with so many re-posting of minor typo and spelling edits that drive other memebrs crazy with so many emails.

-ken


moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

Marv Waschke
 

Shal--
I was thinking of something less sophisticated than a database interface. The output would be a text document that could be sent as an email. That certainly could be done with a database behind it, which would be searchable and you could design and generate reports, but I was only thinking about a configurable template for prompting users to produce emails in which data is presented uniformly.

Off-hand, I am imagining an app with a moderator-mode for building templates, which would be something like the HTML editor on the groups.io site that I am typing into right now, but set up to drag and drop a few simple widgets, like labels, limited length text boxes, and drop-downs.  The user-mode would display the template and the user gets to fill in the blanks. Hitting the send button transmits an email to groups.io for distribution. It could be either browser-based or an app. Nothing fancy and pretty much old-school. (Except for the AI piece scanning existing group email and automatically generating suggested templates. Kidding!) I suppose it might be useful to have a class of subscribers limited to templated emails.

I have to admit that I haven't explored the groups.io database feature adequately. I spent many years building RDBMSs and applications on top of them. Now, out of sheer laziness, I tend to shy away from anything that suggests an RDBMS. Not really a good thing...
Best, Marv


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Michael Pavan
 

On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Michael Pavan <michaelpavan@comcast.net> wrote:


Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last


I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?
Maybe the fix is:
1) Reposition "Repeat by day of the week” to after “Repeats” drop down menu, but before "Repeat Every” drop down menu - and perhaps "Repeat by day of the month” button, too

2) Change "Repeat by day of the week” from a button (on/off) to a drop down menu (First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last)
[Let the user set this, rather than have an algorithm try to figure it out if it is Fourth, Fifth, or Last when the day is the 29th, 30th, or 31st of a month]

3) If “Last” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu
Oops, 3) should be:
3) If “Fifth” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Michael Pavan
 

Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last


I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?
Maybe the fix is:
1) Reposition "Repeat by day of the week” to after “Repeats” drop down menu, but before "Repeat Every” drop down menu - and perhaps "Repeat by day of the month” button, too

2) Change "Repeat by day of the week” from a button (on/off) to a drop down menu (First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last)
[Let the user set this, rather than have an algorithm try to figure it out if it is Fourth, Fifth, or Last when the day is the 29th, 30th, or 31st of a month]

3) If “Last” is selected, bypass "Repeat Every” drop down menu, or add “N/A or “as occurs” to "Repeat Every” drop down menu


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Michael Pavan
 

My first reaction is to say that's daft. Who wants an event that skips some months? So one possibility is just to change the logic (and that text) to implement "last" instead of "fifth".
We have a group that meets different places on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Tuesdays. When a month with a 5th Tuesday occurs we have a ‘bonus’ meeting at another location.

Another group’s event is scheduled for the last Saturday of the month.

4th, 5th, and Last are different, and should not be mixed up.


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

Dave Wade
 

Mark,

 

I don’t think its possible to map this into the existing system, which is why we are asking. There are two options, set it to the fourth and then manually adjust those months where there are five of the days of interest, and then when saving choose “just this event”, or create a “fourth” and a “fifth” day of the month event and delete the fourths where there is a fifth.

 

Dave

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: 02 August 2018 05:47
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

 

Hi Michael,

 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Michael Pavan <michaelpavan@...> wrote:

Some events repeat on the last <weekday> of the month, e.g. "Monthly on the Last Saturday"
which will be either the 4th or 5th Saturday of a month
(because except for non-leap year Februaries, all months have 29, 30, or 31 days).

The Calendar: Repeats: Repeat Summary automatically chooses: Fourth or Fifth
depending on the particular month when the repeating event's start date is set,
unfortunately this design does not recognize that the event could be Last, rather than Fourth or Fifth.

I suggest the fix is to make it a manual choice of: First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, or Last

 

I understand this conceptually, but am having a difficult time mapping it to the existing system (perhaps lingering jet lag has something to do with it). Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd add?

 

Thanks,

Mark 


moderated Re: Creation of Sub-Albums in the Photo-Section

Beth Weld
 

This would be an extremely helpful feature for my groups and make organizing photos so much easier.
Thanks
Beth


moderated Re: Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events

 

Mark,

Can you give me some examples using the existing system and what you'd
add?
Pick August 29th (the next example date) and create an event on it.
o Check Event Repeats
o Select Monthly
o Repeat every 1 Month
o Repeat by day of week

The repeat Summary says "Monthly on the Fifth Wednesday".

My first reaction is to say that's daft. Who wants an event that skips some months? So one possibility is just to change the logic (and that text) to implement "last" instead of "fifth".

But undoubtedly some users do. So the other option is to, in that case, reveal a control (radio buttons) to select between "fifth" and "last", probably just below the control that selects between "day of the week" and "day of the month".

Shal

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