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moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

Sharon Villines
 

I’ve got many group members writing novels for their signatures., and it’s too hard to police and control them all by hand. I am now begging for a character limit option in the auto sig!
I curious why these lists can’t be controlled. I send very occasional reminders and otherwise contact people privately to limit their signature lines. They do.

Sharon
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moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

And I think you misunderstood. This info is currently not available to owners, unless it’s there and I can’t find it. The email issue applies either way: there’s no member identifying info in the pending message notification, and I am requesting that it be added.

On Jul 29, 2018, at 5:43 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m the group owner. I could change my entire request to read ‘owners or moderators’ with granular permission for moderators if necessary. But I don’t think it’s necessary. An alternate email address is low-level infornation, below the level that mods already have.
On Jul 29, 2018, at 5:01 PM, Jim Higgins <HigginsJ@sc.rr.com> wrote:

Received from J_Catlady at 7/29/2018 07:38 PM UTC:

p.s. Of course I later went into the site to find out who it was. But I think that either the alias info should be available to moderators in general, and/or the member info should be available in the emailed pending-message notice.

This seems like a matter that should be handled between you and the group Owner. I don't believe it's appropriate for Groups.io to make changes that bypass the privileges the group Owner has chosen to not give you as a Moderator.

Jim H




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moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

I’m the group owner. I could change my entire request to read ‘owners or moderators’ with granular permission for moderators if necessary. But I don’t think it’s necessary. An alternate email address is low-level infornation, below the level that mods already have.

On Jul 29, 2018, at 5:01 PM, Jim Higgins <HigginsJ@sc.rr.com> wrote:

Received from J_Catlady at 7/29/2018 07:38 PM UTC:

p.s. Of course I later went into the site to find out who it was. But I think that either the alias info should be available to moderators in general, and/or the member info should be available in the emailed pending-message notice.

This seems like a matter that should be handled between you and the group Owner. I don't believe it's appropriate for Groups.io to make changes that bypass the privileges the group Owner has chosen to not give you as a Moderator.

Jim H



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moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

Jim Higgins
 

Received from J_Catlady at 7/29/2018 07:38 PM UTC:

p.s. Of course I later went into the site to find out who it was. But I think that either the alias info should be available to moderators in general, and/or the member info should be available in the emailed pending-message notice.

This seems like a matter that should be handled between you and the group Owner. I don't believe it's appropriate for Groups.io to make changes that bypass the privileges the group Owner has chosen to not give you as a Moderator.

Jim H


moderated Re: moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

p.s. Of course I later went into the site to find out who it was. But I think that either the alias info should be available to moderators in general, and/or the member info should be available in the emailed pending-message notice.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:36 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
This morning a new member posted from a completely unknown (to me) email address. I found the pending message in my email. There is no identifying information in the pending notice about who this member is.

This was disconcerting. Based on the content, I had a theory about who it was and went into that person's member page, but it turns out moderators don't have access to members' email aliases. So I couldn't be sure.

Is it possible to either make that information available, OR include the member's display name (and/or regular email address used for the group) in the pending notice?
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moderated moderator access to group member email aliases #suggestion

 

This morning a new member posted from a completely unknown (to me) email address. I found the pending message in my email. There is no identifying information in the pending notice about who this member is.

This was disconcerting. Based on the content, I had a theory about who it was and went into that person's member page, but it turns out moderators don't have access to members' email aliases. So I couldn't be sure.

Is it possible to either make that information available, OR include the member's display name (and/or regular email address used for the group) in the pending notice?
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

o.k. that´s understood, no novels.

Victoria

 

J. wrote: And by the way, we use it for the same reason your group does. All we want is name, age, gender, weight, diagnosis, diagnosis method and date, current medical conditions, and all meds with dosages. But what we get in some cases are “I took Pookey to the first vet on such-and-such date (two years ago) and he said it was xyz, but the next day he threw up and we took him to the second vet who disagreed, so we tried bla bla and another vet...” and on and on this goes. Some of them are putting the complete medical history in the signature, despite exhortations about what to include and not to include. Then others copy them, and now it’s becoming an epidemic with no systemic or automatic way to stop it.




moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

And by the way, we use it for the same reason your group does. All we want is name, age, gender, weight, diagnosis, diagnosis method and date, current medical conditions, and all meds with dosages. But what we get in some cases are “I took Pookey to the first vet on such-and-such date (two years ago) and he said it was xyz, but the next day he threw up and we took him to the second vet who disagreed, so we tried bla bla and another vet...” and on and on this goes. Some of them are putting the complete medical history in the signature, despite exhortations about what to include and not to include. Then others copy them, and now it’s becoming an epidemic with no systemic or automatic way to stop it.


On Jul 29, 2018, at 10:37 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

See below: “character limit option”


On Jul 29, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

               I’ve got many group members writing novels for their signatures., and it’s too hard to police and control them all by hand. I am now begging for a character limit option in the auto sig!


If this could be optional, then o.k. If not I wouldn´t like that so much for in my two veterinary groups many details of the patients concerned are demanded in the signature. This way we save time looking up the history, weight, age, diseases etc.

 

Victoria

 


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

See below: “character limit option”


On Jul 29, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...> wrote:

               I’ve got many group members writing novels for their signatures., and it’s too hard to police and control them all by hand. I am now begging for a character limit option in the auto sig!


If this could be optional, then o.k. If not I wouldn´t like that so much for in my two veterinary groups many details of the patients concerned are demanded in the signature. This way we save time looking up the history, weight, age, diseases etc.

 

Victoria

 


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moderated Re: Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

               I’ve got many group members writing novels for their signatures., and it’s too hard to police and control them all by hand. I am now begging for a character limit option in the auto sig!


If this could be optional, then o.k. If not I wouldn´t like that so much for in my two veterinary groups many details of the patients concerned are demanded in the signature. This way we save time looking up the history, weight, age, diseases etc.

 

Victoria

 


moderated Repeating request for character limit in auto signature

 

I’ve got many group members writing novels for their signatures., and it’s too hard to police and control them all by hand. I am now begging for a character limit option in the auto sig!


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moderated Re: File Management across groups? #suggestion

Rick Steeves <groups.io@...>
 

There's a unified calendar across all of my groups. I'm thinking something similar for files. Perhaps a tag in the individual groups to note that it's a file managed across groups?


moderated Re: allow more than one email delivery method #suggestion

 

Maybe "phishy" is more accurate. ;)
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moderated Re: allow more than one email delivery method #suggestion

 

Definitely fishy. ;p
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moderated Re: allow more than one email delivery method #suggestion

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:30 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 03:50 AM, Helen Howes wrote:
The easy way is to subscribe with two email accounts
Right! And that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid having to do. :-)
 
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I still think this is a fishy idea, but I also have another really fishy idea.

There is an issue that just popped up on GMF and it appears to have to do with email addresses with and without periods. I don't think it is entirely sorted out, but if there is a loophole in the GIO account system (eg - bug), then you might be able to have your cake and eat it too.

Make another GIO account with the same email address you already are using, except add some extra punctuation characters such as a period, dash or underscore in the email address. It is still treated as the same email address for email, but it seems that GIO might accept it as a different email address. After it was set up you could have individual emails and digests sent to the same actual email address.

Yes, I know that's not what you want, but I did say it was very fishy. Another caveat, I don't know for sure if this would actually work.

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moderated Re: allow more than one email delivery method #suggestion

 

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 03:50 AM, Helen Howes wrote:
The easy way is to subscribe with two email accounts
Right! And that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid having to do. :-)
 
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moderated Re: allow more than one email delivery method #suggestion

 

The easy way is to subscribe with two email accounts (as two accounts, not a merge) and set them accordingly..

HH


moderated File Management across groups? #suggestion

Rick Steeves <groups.io@...>
 

I've got a couple of groups with similar purposes, and identical files. Is there the option (or plan for an option) that would let me upload and/or manage files across groups?


moderated Re: allow more than one email delivery method #suggestion

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 07:45 AM, Duane wrote:
Seems to me it would be a lot less work for Mark (as in none) to just use a second account, then forward those to the one you want to use if you want them all in one place.
Also this would not accomplish the desired goal. It assumes that I just want one account to receive a certain set of formats (or in your assumption, all of them). But that's not what I'm requesting. I'm simply requesting that any account ask for and receive any subset of formats they want. 
 
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moderated Re: allow more than one email delivery method #suggestion

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 07:45 AM, Duane wrote:
Seems to me it would be a lot less work for Mark ..
I don't care how Mark implements it. The suggestion is to make it be, or even just look like, the one account is receiving all the various formats it wants, rather than the user having to create and use separate accounts to get it. (I, too, have resorted to using separate accounts in order to receive both individual emails and the summary. This seems a waste and unnecessary.) It seems to me that it would be easier to implement by just sending the user every format they want. But of course I don't know for sure.
 
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