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moderated Re: Fix Timezone default

Michael Pavan
 

If they're not doing web access how does their Timezone setting matter?
An email subscriber in the Eastern Time Zone (set by default to the Pacific Time Zone), subscribed to a group in the Eastern Time Zone, with events in the Eastern Time Zone on the group’s Calendar in the Eastern Time Zone, receives an email Reminder - what Time Zone will determine the time of the event(s) reported in the email Reminder?


moderated Re: Fix Timezone default

 

Dano,

He's talking about groups that are primarily email users only. Many
don't want to worry about web access.
If they're not doing web access how does their Timezone setting matter?

Shal


moderated Re: Fix Timezone default

 

> It can't be fixed if it isn't broken...  You (and each member)
> can set any time zone you like for viewing your calendar at
> the bottom right. There has to be some sort of default if
> nothing is chosen, so PST is as good as any.

Duane -
He's talking about groups that are primarily email users only. Many don't want to worry about web access. In a situation like that, it makes sense to have the owner set an initial time zone default along with the other group defaults an owner can set.
 
In the case of a group with no set default, I like Glenn Glazer's thought about making it UTC since groups.io is worldwide. Many users are familiar with Zulu time already through the various disciplines they are involved with.
 
Dano


moderated Re: New bulk topic actions

 

Mark,

You can now do actions to topics in bulk:
...
Please let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions.
Nitpick: Adding -test to the topics list of a group you do not moderate causes a slight downward shift of the list of topics. The row for the absent buttons apparently still influences the layout.

Shal


moderated Re: New bulk topic actions

 

Mark,

You can now do actions to topics in bulk:
...
Please let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions.

There are some alignment issues with the action buttons. They seem to think they're constrained to a middle column despite being on their own row.



It gets funnier as you drag the window narrower: the left and right objects start stacking up also, apparently to avoid colliding with the whitespace between them.

Shal


moderated Re: Fix Timezone default

Duane
 

It can't be fixed if it isn't broken...  You (and each member) can set any time zone you like for viewing your calendar at the bottom right.  There has to be some sort of default if nothing is chosen, so PST is as good as any.

Duane


moderated Fix Timezone default

Michael Pavan
 

My groups are all in the Eastern (US) Timezone.
The events all take place in the Eastern (US) Timezone.
However checking the Calendar with an email address of mine (that was transferred from YahooGroups as an email subscriber only and just today became a web access member) I find that events (real people gathering in person in real places) which all take place in the Eastern (US) Timezone are listed with Pacific Timezone times!
All of my groups were set up in the Eastern (US) Timezone for real people gathering in person in real places - to have Pacific Timezone foist on them by default is not appropriate. The fix as is requires all non-Pacific Timezone people to get web access (theoretically easy, but awkward for many if not most users) and make the correction(s).

This is a bad default.
I get that it makes sense to people from many timezones who are just gathering online (rather than in person) to have the time in their personal real time…

But the default should be that subscribers/members are in each group’s Timezone, rather than in the Pacific Timezone - which is Pacific Time chauvinist. ;-}
Or at least it should be a Group Owner setting to choose if a group is a Real Timezone or Virtual Timezone group!


moderated ability to rename older half of topic in a split #suggestion

 

I would often like to be able to split off the older part of a thread but keep the original name for the newer part, so that replies via email by people who haven't seen the split don't go to the older part. That would be possible if you could choose whether to rename the older or the newer part of the thread.
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moderated Re: Event: Mark Vacation - Wednesday, 18 July 2018 #cal-invite

 

Wait, this is an invite? Are we all invited? Where are we going?:-)
Seriously: have a good one!
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moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • NEW: Bulk topic actions.
  • INTERNAL: Verifying DKIM sigs of inbound emails, currently in testing only.
  • BUGFIX: In some instances, when upgrading a group to premium with the annual plan, the monthly plan was selected instead.
  • SYSADMIN: Fix time sync in the Groups.io machine cluster. Very embarassing.
  • BUGFIX: Use the user's timezone when generating the 'On such and such' line for message replies.
  • NEW: Scanning emails, files and photos for viruses/phishing. Currently in testing.
  • CHANGE: For Reply To Sender groups, we don't delete any existing Reply-to headers.
  • NEW: Ability for members to repost messages, with configurable parameters, for premium groups.
  • CHANGE: Some domains will sometimes reply to emails with '550 This IP has sent too many messages this hour. IB504'. We now treat those as temporary errors instead of permanent errors, and retry again in an hour.
  • NEW: Google map view for database tables with address columns, for premium groups.
  • NEW: JSON export format for database tables, and the ability to create new tables from these exports.

Because of my vacation, the next #changelog email will be on August 3rd.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Event: Mark Vacation - Wednesday, 18 July 2018 #cal-invite

main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Mark Vacation

When:
Wednesday, 18 July 2018

Description:

I will be on vacation starting Wednesday, July 18, returning on Tuesday, July 30. I will be monitoring the site as normal, except for a few times when I'm on planes or otherwise out of cell/Internet coverage. During those times, a friend of mine will be monitoring the site.

Replies to support emails will be delayed during this time. Also, group transfers will be delayed as well.


moderated Re: New bulk topic actions

 

Hi Duane,

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I just tried to merge a topic on the normal page and got a 404 page not found error.  After reading this topic, I tried using the new page and it worked fine.  Possibly related?  If not, let me know and I'll send details to support.  Buttons at the top of the new page look a bit funky/misaligned.

Old merge should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: New bulk topic actions

Duane
 

I just tried to merge a topic on the normal page and got a 404 page not found error.  After reading this topic, I tried using the new page and it worked fine.  Possibly related?  If not, let me know and I'll send details to support.  Buttons at the top of the new page look a bit funky/misaligned.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: New bulk topic actions

 

Fantastic, I’ve been hoping for this for a long time! 😊


On Jul 13, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

You can now do actions to topics in bulk:

- delete topics
- add/remove hashtags
- merge multiple topics into one topic
- set moderated/locked/sticky

I've put it up on a test page for now, for feedback. You can see it by going to /topics-test instead of /topics (ie groups.io/g/GROUPNAME/topics-test). You will only see a difference if you have archive editing privileges.

Please let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions.

Thanks,
Mark

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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated New bulk topic actions

 

Hi All,

You can now do actions to topics in bulk:

- delete topics
- add/remove hashtags
- merge multiple topics into one topic
- set moderated/locked/sticky

I've put it up on a test page for now, for feedback. You can see it by going to /topics-test instead of /topics (ie groups.io/g/GROUPNAME/topics-test). You will only see a difference if you have archive editing privileges.

Please let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: New Google Maps table view and table export

 

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Linda Standart via Groups.Io <standartlinda=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have encountered a new issue in my group (https://groups.io/g/SecondSaturdayAlteredBookGroup) when I go to the member address and phone book database I get an error.
" Groups.IO says
Geocode was not successful for the following reason:
OVER_QUERY_LIMIT"

Some limit is being hit and I'm not sure what it is. I have a support request into Google and hope to have an answer back in a day or two.



This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

Bottom line: you currently can't disable hashtags, so there's no equivalency. If Mark adds a "disable" checkbox for hashtags, then your suggestion seems reasonable. Otherwise, it's not reasonable in my opinion. 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

In fact, even when made invisible to group members, the database and files tabs appear (and presumably the rest as well). The only time they disappear is when you check "disabled." If a group disables one of these features, as you have apparently done, it seems reasonable to disappear the tab.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

BTW in my groups with no databases and no files and only moderators can create them, these tabs still appear. I'm not going to bother to check the rest. Perhaps your group has databases invisible to members, as well?
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 08:06 AM, Tom Vail wrote:
It would not be a manual process.
Of course it wouldn't. But it puts a completely unnecessary load on the system to run through the check every time someone creates a hashtag in a group or changes that setting.

I've not tested photos and files

Maybe you should do that.:-)
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

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