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moderated Re: New bulk topic actions

Duane
 

I just tried to merge a topic on the normal page and got a 404 page not found error.  After reading this topic, I tried using the new page and it worked fine.  Possibly related?  If not, let me know and I'll send details to support.  Buttons at the top of the new page look a bit funky/misaligned.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: New bulk topic actions

 

Fantastic, I’ve been hoping for this for a long time! 😊


On Jul 13, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

You can now do actions to topics in bulk:

- delete topics
- add/remove hashtags
- merge multiple topics into one topic
- set moderated/locked/sticky

I've put it up on a test page for now, for feedback. You can see it by going to /topics-test instead of /topics (ie groups.io/g/GROUPNAME/topics-test). You will only see a difference if you have archive editing privileges.

Please let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions.

Thanks,
Mark

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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated New bulk topic actions

 

Hi All,

You can now do actions to topics in bulk:

- delete topics
- add/remove hashtags
- merge multiple topics into one topic
- set moderated/locked/sticky

I've put it up on a test page for now, for feedback. You can see it by going to /topics-test instead of /topics (ie groups.io/g/GROUPNAME/topics-test). You will only see a difference if you have archive editing privileges.

Please let me know if you see any issues or have suggestions.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: New Google Maps table view and table export

 

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Linda Standart via Groups.Io <standartlinda=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have encountered a new issue in my group (https://groups.io/g/SecondSaturdayAlteredBookGroup) when I go to the member address and phone book database I get an error.
" Groups.IO says
Geocode was not successful for the following reason:
OVER_QUERY_LIMIT"

Some limit is being hit and I'm not sure what it is. I have a support request into Google and hope to have an answer back in a day or two.



This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

Bottom line: you currently can't disable hashtags, so there's no equivalency. If Mark adds a "disable" checkbox for hashtags, then your suggestion seems reasonable. Otherwise, it's not reasonable in my opinion. 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

In fact, even when made invisible to group members, the database and files tabs appear (and presumably the rest as well). The only time they disappear is when you check "disabled." If a group disables one of these features, as you have apparently done, it seems reasonable to disappear the tab.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

BTW in my groups with no databases and no files and only moderators can create them, these tabs still appear. I'm not going to bother to check the rest. Perhaps your group has databases invisible to members, as well?
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 08:06 AM, Tom Vail wrote:
It would not be a manual process.
Of course it wouldn't. But it puts a completely unnecessary load on the system to run through the check every time someone creates a hashtag in a group or changes that setting.

I've not tested photos and files

Maybe you should do that.:-)
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:11 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
I think this would be a lot of work for the system to keep track of. Every time someone created a hashtag in a group, or unchecked the setting "only moderators can create hashtags," the layout would have to change.
This is what computers do, and is the same process as it does today.  It would not be a manual process.

(BTW, the other features (Files, etc.) do not work that way. They appear even under the conditions you're describing.)
Sorry J, but you are mistaken on how it works.  If you disable "databases" the database tab does not appear on the list of tabs for the members, see below.  And I know Wiki works the same way, although I've not tested photos and files.



Peace,

Tom 


moderated Re: #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

 

I think this would be a lot of work for the system to keep track of. Every time someone created a hashtag in a group, or unchecked the setting "only moderators can create hashtags," the layout would have to change. (BTW, the other features (Files, etc.) do not work that way. They appear even under the conditions you're describing.)
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated #suggestion - Remove hashtag tab when none exist and restricted #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

I would like to suggest the Hashtag tab be removed when there are no hashtags and only moderators can create them.  It is the same principle as files, photos, databases, and Wiki.  If they are disabled the tab does not show.

If the group is set by the owner not to allow members to create hashtags, and there are no hashtags to be used, why confuse the issue by having the hashtag tab available?

I assume most groups us hashtags to some degree, but they do not fit our application.  It would be nice to not only clean up the display but eliminate the "What does the hashtag tab do?" questions.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: New Google Maps table view and table export

Mark Irving
 

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 09:54 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I have restored the option to export a database in csv format, in addition to json format.

JSON format exported data include a "row_num" attribute corresponding to the ID shown on screen, but CSV data don't. This seems inconsistent.

JSON data include a lot of "date": "0001-01-01T00:00:00Z" and "time": "0001-01-01T00:00:00Z" attributes of data fields, but all set to those same constant values. These don't seem very useful, and neither format includes the Updated date-time as shown on screen.

Could the two data formats please be made to include the ID and Updated information?

 - Mark


moderated Re: New Google Maps table view and table export

Linda Standart
 

I just realized that the other group is not a premium one. Interesting
Linda


moderated Re: Time Zone Anomaly

Chris Jones
 

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
This has been fixed.
Many thanks!

Chris


moderated Re: New Repost feature

 

Great idea.


On Jul 11, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

I've pushed a new feature available to premium/enterprise groups. If you have one of those groups, in the Group Settings page there's a new Repost Policies section. You can allow members to repost messages. You can define how many times they can repost a message and how long they have to wait before reposting. To repost a message, go into the More menu when viewing the message and look for the Repost Message link. Reposted messages are tagged with the '#repost' hashtag. The feature is turned off by default.

This does not apply to someone who just emails the exact same message to the group more than once. I can extend it for that, but it could be a bit tricky. This feature was requested by a couple of groups who have classifieds subgroups where people end up reposting until something is sold.

Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.

Thanks,
Mark

--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated New Repost feature

 

Hi All,

I've pushed a new feature available to premium/enterprise groups. If you have one of those groups, in the Group Settings page there's a new Repost Policies section. You can allow members to repost messages. You can define how many times they can repost a message and how long they have to wait before reposting. To repost a message, go into the More menu when viewing the message and look for the Repost Message link. Reposted messages are tagged with the '#repost' hashtag. The feature is turned off by default.

This does not apply to someone who just emails the exact same message to the group more than once. I can extend it for that, but it could be a bit tricky. This feature was requested by a couple of groups who have classifieds subgroups where people end up reposting until something is sold.

Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Time Zone Anomaly

 

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 08:07 am, Chris Jones wrote:
Any chance you can have a look at this sometime?
In radio parlance... Nothing Heard.

Has this query slipped into a different universe, never mind a different time zone?


This has been fixed.
 
In the future, please submit bug reports to support@groups.io. Beta@ is for discussion of new/proposed features. 

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Time Zone Anomaly

Duane
 

It's only been 5 days, 2 of which were the weekend.  ;>)  Yes, I know waiting can seem like it takes forever sometimes, but I'll bet when there is a reply from Mark, it will have been worth waiting for.

Duane


moderated Re: Reply-to change proposal

 

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

I don't think the concern that Reply-To could be used to mailbomb someone would arise much in a reply-to-sender-only group, but if it did, it should be easy for a group owner to track down who did it and deal with them appropriately.

​Good point, since the owner/mods will also have received the offending message.

Thanks for the discussion. I just pushed the change so that for Reply To Sender groups, we do not remove any existing Reply-To header. Please let me know if you hear or see any issues with it. 

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Reply-to change proposal

 

JohnF

I don't think the concern that Reply-To could be used to mailbomb someone would arise much in a reply-to-sender-only group, but if it did, it should be easy for a group owner to track down who did it and deal with them appropriately.

​Good point, since the owner/mods will also have received the offending message.
​And it brings to mind a pro-active mitigation: force all such messages to be moderated. And of course, make the fact that there's an inbound Reply-To prominently visible in the Pending list and pending message, possibly with the option of allowing the moderator to edit or remove it.

This idea is by analogy to the fact that all non-subscriber posts (if the group allows them) are moderated. Except here the (potentially) non-subscriber address is in the Reply-To field rather than the From field.

But I'll concede that's a bunch of work for a likely to be rarely used feature.

Shal

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