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Re: Time Zone Anomaly
It's only been 5 days, 2 of which were the weekend. ;>) Yes, I know waiting can seem like it takes forever sometimes, but I'll bet when there is a reply from Mark, it will have been worth waiting for.
Duane
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Re: Reply-to change proposal
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Thanks for the discussion. I just pushed the change so that for Reply To Sender groups, we do not remove any existing Reply-To header. Please let me know if you hear or see any issues with it. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Reply-to change proposal
JohnF I don't think the concern that Reply-To could be used to mailbomb someone would arise much in a reply-to-sender-only group, but if it did, it should be easy for a group owner to track down who did it and deal with them appropriately. Good point, since the owner/mods will also have received the offending message. And it brings to mind a pro-active mitigation: force all such messages to be moderated. And of course, make the fact that there's an inbound Reply-To prominently visible in the Pending list and pending message, possibly with the option of allowing the moderator to edit or remove it. This idea is by analogy to the fact that all non-subscriber posts (if the group allows them) are moderated. Except here the (potentially) non-subscriber address is in the Reply-To field rather than the From field. But I'll concede that's a bunch of work for a likely to be rarely used feature. Shal
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Re: Time Zone Anomaly
Chris Jones
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 08:07 am, Chris Jones wrote:
Any chance you can have a look at this sometime?In radio parlance... Nothing Heard. Has this query slipped into a different universe, never mind a different time zone? Chris
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Re: Reply-to change proposal
If it's a reply-to-sender-only group, then I think any incoming Reply-To header line should be honored. I don't think the concern that Reply-To could be used to mailbomb someone would arise much in a reply-to-sender-only group, but if it did, it should be easy for a group owner to track down who did it and deal with them appropriately. It's also possible to trick people into mass-emailing someone without using a header line at all.
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
Thank you, Mark. That was a bit of an unhappy surprise. Fortunately my group is small, so I can generate a file with the information without too much trouble.That will serve for the time being.
Interesting addendum here, I accessed a similar file in another group to which I belong and did not encounter the problem Linda
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Re: Reply-to change proposal
Mark,
A concern was raised in GMF that this could lead to members "pranking" other members by misdirecting replies. For example, send something inflammatory or profane or irresistibly attractive then set Reply-To someone else. Who then gets mail-bombed by some fraction of the group membership. The victim need not be a member of the group. And in the intended use case, would not be. So the mail-bombing could arrive completely out of the blue. I feel that those concerns are adequately mitigated if it is an Announcement Group; then only a group moderator could take such underhanded actions. Others disagree. Maybe, like other abuse-able features (Direct Add) it needs to be further tied to a premium group. Shal
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Reply-to change proposal
Hi All, This is going to be a bit technical, apologies... Right now, we strip any Reply-to header from an incoming message. In most instances, we generate a new, appropriate reply to. But for groups that have the reply to setting set to either Reply To Sender or for messages that are tagged with a tag that is set to Reply To Sender Only, we end up not generating a replacement Reply-to header. A group owner sets the Reply-To header on messages he sends to his announcement group, and would like those headers preserved. I can make that happen by not stripping the incoming Reply-To for groups set to Reply To Sender Only (or tagged appropriately). I don't think this will change behavior for anyone, but I'm not 100% certain. So can anyone think of a reason not to do this? Thanks, Mark
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Linda Standart via Groups.Io <standartlinda@...> wrote: I have encountered a new issue in my group (https://groups.io/g/ Some limit is being hit and I'm not sure what it is. I have a support request into Google and hope to have an answer back in a day or two. Thanks, Mark
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
I have encountered a new issue in my group (https://groups.io/g/SecondSaturdayAlteredBookGroup) when I go to the member address and phone book database I get an error.
" Groups.IO says Geocode was not successful for the following reason: OVER_QUERY_LIMIT" It displays a partial map of the general region (South East) with indicators for the location of the addresses in the address book. But nothing on the page works and the information is not in table format Not sure what this means or why it's happening. But it is new, so I am wondering if it has something to do with the new google Maps table view and table export Any thoughts?
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
Awesome! thanks.
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
Hi All, I have restored the option to export a database in csv format, in addition to json format. Also, the exports automatically download now. Thanks, Mark
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
Bob Bellizzi
I have to agree, removing csv format is not a great idea
-- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
Mark,
I agree with Nina! Adding Json is fine for the few geeks among us but don't take away the CSV export! Also, please review the many requests for generating a download file in either CSV or XLSX format to make easy to grab and use the data. Xls would be nice as that would include the data type for the columns. Thanks! Toby
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Re: New Google Maps table view and table export
>> Also, I've changed how tables are exported and imported. Now, Export Table returns a JSON object containing all the table information.
One of my subgroups has a database of chorus members that lists their names, voice parts, addresses (with separate fields for street, city, ZIP - thankfully not affected by the new maps view, which I would not want to use in this case), and so on. I sometimes need to export that database to a spreadsheet, so exporting to CSV format is useful. I have no idea what to do with a JSON object (I don't even know what it is :-) ). Is it possible to put JSON content in a spreadsheet? If so, how? If not, can the export database function provide options for CSV or JSON output? - Nina
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Re: Group Notes feature
#suggestion
Sure, there are lots of kluges, one of which I’m using. The wiki kluge is really no good until we get individually-specified access to wiki pages (as I have also suggested here at some point).
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On Jul 10, 2018, at 7:57 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote: --
J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Group Notes feature
#suggestion
J,
A dedicated space for "group notes" or "moderator notes" would be veryAgreed. It isn't always a good fit, but one can create a Database table which is Moderator-eyes only. I'd like to be able to do the same with a Wiki page for more free-form information. But having it be present somewhere a moderator would expect to look for it, as I think you're proposing, would make it even more useful. Shal
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Group Notes feature
#suggestion
I have a vague memory that this suggestion came up in the past: Currently, I am keeping a sort of to-do list for group issues (files to create, members to communicate with, etc.) under my own membership notes. But this kind of thing really doesn't belong there. A dedicated space for "group notes" or "moderator notes" would be very convenient.
-- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Searching In databases
Leeni
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Ilene,
> I guess that is what you could call it. As it is set now in order to
> bring up a record in the database the wording has to be exact.
I call it partial-word matching. And I'd love to see it too.
Not just in Database, but everywhere. The only place in Groups.io that I
know implements partial-word matching right now is the Members list. It
is really needed in the Activity log and Messages as well.
Shal
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Re: Searching In databases
Ilene,
I guess that is what you could call it. As it is set now in order toI call it partial-word matching. And I'd love to see it too. Not just in Database, but everywhere. The only place in Groups.io that I know implements partial-word matching right now is the Members list. It is really needed in the Activity log and Messages as well. Shal
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