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moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

Dave Sergeant
 

In Europe (where the vast majority of our members are) there is no
confusion - the first number is always the day. Try to suggest it is
the month and they don't understand - 'those damned Americans'.

Dave

On 24 Jun 2018 at 10:41, Shal Farley wrote:

Any chance of adding DD/MM/YYYY ...
That would create an ambiguity with MM/DD/YYYY. Would something like
DD.MM.YYYY be an acceptable alternative?

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moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

 

Dave,

Any chance of adding DD/MM/YYYY ...
That would create an ambiguity with MM/DD/YYYY. Would something like DD.MM.YYYY be an acceptable alternative?

While it is true that the individual member would know which way they set their own preference, I'm thinking of situations where people copy/paste or screenshot examples for posting in groups with international membership - or are posting to support.

Shal


moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

Bruce Bowman
 

I believe this third option would create confusion as to whether the first entry was the month or the day. To avoid this ambiguity I believe the ISO standard is by far the best way to go, with the existing MM/DD/YYYY retained for legacy purposes only.

Bruce


moderated Re: login refresh the page I am already on

Bruce Bowman
 

I agree that it would be nice if site login was implemented as a popup of some kind that subsequently refreshed the page you are already on. 

Thanks,
Bruce


moderated login refresh the page I am already on

 

Hi,


it would be nice if login wouldn´t move me to another page but subsequently refresh the page I am already on. It always looks like a detour.

Same for joining a group. Instead of being led to another page during the joining procedure it would be nice if prospective members could stay on the page of the group they want to join. I was told some get confused especially if their English isn´t really sufficient to understand what´s going on.

 

Victoria


moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

Dave Sergeant
 

On 21 Jun 2018 at 16:39, Mark Fletcher wrote:

And dates you can display either
MM/DD/YYYY or DD-MM-YYYY.
We in the UK would never ever set dates to MM/DD/YYYY. The only other
option I see is YYYY-MM-DD, not DD-MM-YYYY. Any chance of adding
DD/MM/YYYY as I don't particularly like the YYYY-MM-DD format?

Dave

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moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

Michael Pavan
 

On Jun 23, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

This should now be fixed.
Excellent, works as it should.

Thanks,
Michael


moderated Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages

 

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 7:14 AM, Chris V <chris@...> wrote:
See
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/22405820#9379


I have just set up a group of some 300 and been hit by this 'feature'
This is MORE than just a spam issue. People sign up to talk to others of similar interested.
BUT they do not sign up to have everyone know their email address.

It sounds like you're looking for a forum type system, strictly (or mostly) web based. We're probably not the right solution for you.

 
Because of this and the EU GDPR regulations I have had to close the group I just set up (lasted a couple of days)

FWIW, my lawyers have no issue with respect to GDPR regulations about how we send messages.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

Arno Martens
 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 02:29 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:

I have changed the date format to YYYY-MM-DD. I have also fixed the date
and time formatting issues in tables, and in the activity search boxes.
Thanks, Mark,

Once people are getting accustomed to it I may push for YYYY-MMM-DD
;->)
Arno


Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

Exactly. Any topic they start would be a moderated topic. It would also force the member to be on moderation (if not already).

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On Jun 23, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote:

J,

Shal, I envision it as a subsetting under "override, moderated" and
therefore all their replies to other topics would be moderated, as
well. I can't see that someone with this setting would not ALSO be
moderated.
Oh! I was confused - I had thought you were going for an ability to let the member freely reply, but not start new topics without moderation.

You mean to moderate the entire topic not just the topic starter. That is, moderate replies by anyone to any topic this member starts.

Shal
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moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Ginny T.
 

Thanks as always, Mark. While I know a lot of the "stuff" deals with internal an upper level operation compared to us little guys, there are always tweaks that are indeed great helps to us too.
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Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

J,

Shal, I envision it as a subsetting under "override, moderated" and
therefore all their replies to other topics would be moderated, as
well. I can't see that someone with this setting would not ALSO be
moderated.
Oh! I was confused - I had thought you were going for an ability to let the member freely reply, but not start new topics without moderation.

You mean to moderate the entire topic not just the topic starter. That is, moderate replies by anyone to any topic this member starts.

Shal


moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

 

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Michael Pavan <michaelpavan@...> wrote:
Duane suggest I cross post this from GMF here

Calendar Time bugs

I've tried many times to create an Event in the Calendar, but keep getting the message:
"You have entered an incorrectly formatted date or time.”
 
The event is 4th Sundays, 2-5pm
 
1) I think the problem is with the time function in “End”
 
“Start” allows me to select: 2:00pm 
 
however the “End” time box then displays “Invalid Date”, its pull down menu offers:

This should now be fixed.

 

I would also prefer being able to specify times, rather than having to select 1/2 hours.

You can edit the time and set it to any time you'd like. The drop down is just to make it easier to select typical times. Google Calendar behaves similarly.


Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

Michael Pavan
 

Duane suggest I cross post this from GMF here

Calendar Time bugs

I've tried many times to create an Event in the Calendar, but keep getting the message:
"You have entered an incorrectly formatted date or time.”
 
The event is 4th Sundays, 2-5pm
 
1) I think the problem is with the time function in “End”
 
“Start” allows me to select: 2:00pm 
 
however the “End” time box then displays “Invalid Date”, its pull down menu offers:
00:00 to 23:30 in 1/2 hour increments.
I’ve tried both 3:00 (duration) and 17:00 (24 hour clock)
and still get the same message when I click on "+ Add Event":
"You have entered an incorrectly formatted date or time.”

I would also prefer being able to specify times, rather than having to select 1/2 hours.


2) It is most annoying and frustrating that the form is then cleared and I have to re-enter every field again, instead of just indicating which fields need correction / completion
 
 
I find nothing in Help for: Calendar
 
I also searched in the GMF Wiki for: Calendar and the only result that comes close is
but it doesn't cover these bugs


moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

Duane
 

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 04:39 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Please let me know if you see any incorrectly formatted dates/times
There's a bug in the Event setup of the calendar.  I've got my preference set to 24 hr time, Start looks fine, but End shows a 12 hr clock (though the default end shows correctly.)  Another user has the 12 set, but sees 24 for End.  We both get an error, "You have entered an incorrectly formatted date or time." in red when trying to add the event.  Seems like a simple switch on the End time code.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: Configurable date and time format options

 

On 22 Jun 2018 at 14:19, Arno Martens wrote:

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:27 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

ISO 8601 for that would be 2003-03-09.
Don't know why we cannot state it as a scientific notation in declining order of
importance. 2018-06-22 17:18

Even though, my favourite to eliminate ambiguity is 2018-Jun-22
I totally agree with that, even though I never use dates in either of those
formats. For my own use (depending on context) it would be either 22-06-18 or
22 Jun 2018 (or even occasionally, as when writing a cheque 22nd June 2018).

All quite a contrast with olden times. I've seen a number of old wills in which
the equivalent was written as "The 22nd day of June anno Domini 2018",
sometimes with the "anno Domini" part written (fully) in Englsh translation,
and sometimes with even the numbers written out in words instead of figures.
Must have taken quite a time to write all that lot out with a quill pen!

Jim Fisher

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Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:04 am, Shal Farley wrote:
Could this be something like a sixth choice under Posting privileges, say "Override: new topics moderated"?
Shal, I envision it as a subsetting under "override, moderated" and therefore all their replies to other topics would be moderated, as well. I can't see that someone with this setting would not ALSO be moderated.
 
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Re: setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

J,

A setting on the member page to moderate every thread the member
starts would be helpful.
Could this be something like a sixth choice under Posting privileges, say "Override: new topics moderated"?

The question then becomes what happens to replies they make to existing topics. I'd propose that they be handled according to the group's policy (not overriding group-wide moderation, if in effect).

Shal


setting to moderate every thread a member starts #suggestion

 

A setting on the member page to moderate every thread the member starts would be helpful. 
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moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • NEW: User preferences for date and time display formatting.
  • NEW: Lock icons are now displayed for locked groups in the Your Groups list, the My Groups page and the Subgroups page.
  • NEW: Support '答复:' as an indicator in the subject of a message reply.
  • NEW: 'Ban Sender' button when viewing a pending message sent from a non-member.
  • INTERNAL: Changed many operations that relied on Amazon S3 to make them more reliable in the face of intermittent issues with S3 lately.
  • INTERNAL: Wrote a new utility to maintain the nginx domain config files.
  • NEW: Work on preventing spam signups.

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark

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