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moderated Re: plain text footers

Dave Sergeant
 

As commented earlier, and your post is a good example, the footer in
multipart HTML/plain text messages only appears in the HTML part. Many
of us have our email clients configured to only show the plain text
part of such messages so don't see the footer. It should be in both
parts.

Dave

On 6 Jun 2018 at 13:06, Mark Fletcher wrote:

I recently tweaked the footers inserted in HTML messages to try to make
them smaller. I'd like to do something similar to the footers inserted
in plain text messages, because the current version is something like 17
lines long on its own. Here's a proposed version:

http://davesergeant.com


moderated plain text footers

 

Hi All,

I recently tweaked the footers inserted in HTML messages to try to make them smaller. I'd like to do something similar to the footers inserted in plain text messages, because the current version is something like 17 lines long on its own. Here's a proposed version:


Kind of dense. Are there any items that don't need to be there? Any suggestions for format improvements?

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Times on Messages

Arno Martens
 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 04:04 pm, Jeremy H wrote:
I find I will see a date and time popup if I hover over just the right point
I get the posts as a digest. When I look at them in the morning I cannot find the time at all.

My thought is - ideally - there should be a full date & time stamp, with time
zone, visible against every message.
Yes, but please without the archaic AM and PM. Make it the 24 hour clock with +/- UTC hours.
Arno


moderated Re: Times on Messages

Jeremy H
 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 08:05 am, J_Catlady wrote:
Hover over the date and you'll see the time.
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J

 

I find I will see a date and time popup if I hover over just the right point (and only that point) on the date - not at all easy to get right, I don't always manage it.

My thought is - ideally - there should be a full date & time stamp, with time zone, visible against every message. (Incidently, the pop on your message says '4:05pm', on quoting, it gives '8:05am' - which I'm sure are actually the same time allowing for zone difference (and whether either is when you thought you were writing it is another question))

Jeremy 
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moderated Re: gavel icon leads group members to think topic is locked #suggestion

 

Woo hoo! Thanks, Mark! 🐈


On Jun 5, 2018, at 12:24 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:41 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I think a scale would be great! Much better than the gavel. :)

Ok, it's a scale now.

Thanks,
Mark 

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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: gavel icon leads group members to think topic is locked #suggestion

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:41 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I think a scale would be great! Much better than the gavel. :)

Ok, it's a scale now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Times on Messages

Arno Martens
 

Hover over the date and you'll see the time.
Not on yours.
Arno


moderated Re: gavel icon leads group members to think topic is locked #suggestion

 

I think a scale would be great! Much better than the gavel. :)
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: gavel icon leads group members to think topic is locked #suggestion

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:34 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I don't remember whether this was discussed at the time moderating topics was implemented, or was ever discussed, but the gavel icon seems to be very misleading to users (including, to be honest, myself, whenever I see it). Time and time again, people assume the thread is locked when they see it. Was a different icon ever considered? Could it be? Is there something like a scale, for example? 

It was the only thing I could think of at the time to represent moderated. I'm happy to change the icon to something better. Font Awesome has some scales now: 


Or if another Font Awesome icon works better, I'd be happy to change it.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: User and group export updates

 

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Mark Irving <m-pfaff@...> wrote:
Might be helpful if group data included the Member Notices. (I've put a few hours into composing and editing some of these, and, while I think I have copies, it would be reassuring to know they were included in a full group export.)


Group export now exports member notices. It now also exports past subscriber data for premium/enterprise groups. And the member export has been changed to export a json formatted file, with a bunch of extra data that was missing before.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated gavel icon leads group members to think topic is locked #suggestion

 

I don't remember whether this was discussed at the time moderating topics was implemented, or was ever discussed, but the gavel icon seems to be very misleading to users (including, to be honest, myself, whenever I see it). Time and time again, people assume the thread is locked when they see it. Was a different icon ever considered? Could it be? Is there something like a scale, for example? 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:38 AM, Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 09:53 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
BUGFIX: In the transfer interface, improved handling of how we scrape Yahoo Groups in different languages.
Can you give more details?

When you set up a transfer, through https://groups.io/yahootransfer, we scrape a few pages off the Yahoo Groups site, to make sure that the Yahoo group exists, to see if you've made transfer@groups.io a moderator yet, etc. That didn't work for groups that were not in English, because the Yahoo Group URLs are on a different domain. That's what was fixed.

Mark 


moderated Re: remove "The groups.io team" signature from rejected message #suggestion

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:59 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
The current "rejected message" format is as below:

... 

I would prefer that the sig just be dropped. I don't know what a suitable replacement might be, but I don't think any sig is necessary in this notification.

I've deleted the sig.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Times on Messages

Allen Buchinski
 

Useful, but inefficient if you’re looking at several messages. It’s a hack, but I have a bookmark that displays the date and time for all messages on screen:

javascript:$(‘span[title]').each(function(){this.innerHTML = this.title;});

Allen 

On Jun 4, 2018, at 8:05 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Hover over the date and you'll see the time.
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J
 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: Selecting revisions in the Revision list

 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

I propose that, when there are two checkmarks already present, clicking on a checkbox between the current checkmarks, or below the lower one, automatically move the bottom checkmark to the clicked box.

It should work that way now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Times on Messages

 

Hover over the date and you'll see the time.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Times on Messages

Sharon Villines
 

I just noticed that the time on messages doesn’t stay. It appears on the day the message is sent but then only the day stays.

The time is necessary to reconstruct events. The order of messages is there but need to know (sometimes) if the response came in one hour or 12 hours.

I just spent a couple of hours reconstructing a timeline for 3 days of messages on 2 lists and real time events. I had to use my copies of the messages because those had the times recorded.

Please fix — or tell me if this is caused by my settings.

Sharon
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Sharon Villines
TakomaDC@Groups.io


moderated remove "The groups.io team" signature from rejected message #suggestion

 

The current "rejected message" format is as below:

Hello,

A message you sent to the group xyz was not approved by the moderators for the following reason:

[reason stated by the rejecting moderator]

The message is attached.


The Groups.io Team

I see these messages because I always bcc myself on rejected messages, and every time, it strikes me as "off" that the signature on the rejection is "The Groups.io Team." I think this looks to the user as if groups.io, rather than the specific group, is responsible for rejecting the message. I think the idea was that the groups.io signature goes along with the statement at the top ("a message you sent to the group xyz") to create a frame by groups.io about the group, rather than the message coming from the specific group. However, I don't think they match, since "the moderators" refers back to the specific group, not groups.io.

I would prefer that the sig just be dropped. I don't know what a suitable replacement might be, but I don't think any sig is necessary in this notification.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 06:01 pm, J_Catlady wrote:
Someone joins a second group and suddenly the landing page changes. Then they drop out of a group, leaving them back to one, and it changes back again. This has got to leave people scratching their metaphorical heads. :) 
So you are saying that if someone does not have to choose their group because the system knows they only belong to one and it takes them right to it, and then they join another group they would not think something would change?  If that creates metaphorical head scratching then I would submit they would never even consider going to the Groups.io main page.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: #suggestion - Take member directly to group if they only belong to one #suggestion

 

The main objection I would have, even besides the problem of getting to the groups.io main page, is the inconsistency. Someone joins a second group and suddenly the landing page changes. Then they drop out of a group, leaving them back to one, and it changes back again. This has got to leave people scratching their metaphorical heads. :) 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:57 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 05:54 pm, Tom Vail wrote:
Is it not true that all they have to do is click on the "Home" tab to go to the main page
No but they can click on "groups.io" at the top. (Clicking on "Home" just takes them to the group home page.) So yes, they can get to the main groups.io page but they have to explicitly know to click on that. 
 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

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