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moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Well, tested elsewhere and am having the same issue.  Afterward I changed just one thing, the line break to separate out the italic phrase regarding returning to step 2. Now, inexplicably, when I cut and paste now straight out of the .docx, what I get is 100% correct.  So, while the cause of the original issue remains a mystery it's corrected now for future cut and pastes.
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[Last Update:  5/26/2018]

 

If you have never used the groups.io website, you will need to follow the instructions just below to get a password so that you can log in to the site.  Otherwise jump straight on to the section, Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription, for the preferences that give you precise control over the messages you’ll receive from groups.io, and in what format, afterward review the section, Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests.   Note:  the easiest way to log out of the Groups.io web interface is simply to enter https://groups.io/logout in the address box of your browser and then navigate to that page.  You don’t need to locate the link showing your name, activating it to get the drop down menu, then choosing log out from that menu.

 

Getting a Password to Log in to the Groups.io Website

If you’ve subscribed via e-mail you have a Groups.io login id, your e-mail address, but you’ve never been assigned a password for the website.  To get one:

1.  In your web browser, go to the Groups.io main site login page:  https://groups.io/login

2.  Find the “Forgot your password?” link and activate it.

3.  A page with a single edit box, e-mail address will open.  Enter your e-mail address in it.

4. Navigate to the one and only button on the page, “Email Link to Log In,” and activate it.

5. Watch your e-mail, including your spam/junk box, for a message from Groups.io that will contain a link you need to activate that takes you to your Groups.io profile page where you set your password.  This is the password you’ll use to log in to any Groups.io group webpage where you wish to do something, such as changing your preferences, that requires you to be logged in to do.  You are, at this stage, actually logged in.

 

 

 

 

Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription

Adapted for Screen Reader Users by Timothy Wynn

 

These preferences allow you to get very precise control over what messages you will receive in e-mail from groups.io and the format in which you’ll receive them.  You can significantly decrease the amount of e-mail you receive from high-traffic groups while also being able to decide what's important enough to keep an eye on.

Once you get to the main Groups.io webpage, https://groups.io, you will need to navigate to the "Log In" (two words) link and activate it. Once you've entered your username, which is the e-mail address you've used to subscribe to the group(s) you routinely read, and password, activate the "Log In" button and you will be taken to the "Your Subscriptions" page.

  1. If your browser window is not already maximized, do so now (keyboard shortcut is Alt+Space, then X or Windows+Up-arrow).
    1. If the page is restored or minimized, then at the top of the page you'll see a button labeled "Toggle navigation", followed by a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io". This version of the interface will not allow you to edit any of the subscription preferences as far as I can tell.
    2. If the page is maximized, then the top of the page should have a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io", followed by a link labeled "Your Groups".
  2. Use your screen reader's table navigation commands to move to the first table found on this page. The columns should read "Group", "# Members", "Latest Message", and "Delivery". Move to the row for the group for which you wish to set up your advanced preferences, navigate over to the Delivery column, and activate the link found there.  This will bring up the Subscription page which contains the advanced email preferences.  You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences.
  3. Just so you're aware these are on the Subscription page, there is a radio button cluster for the Email Delivery options: All Messages, Full Featured Digest, Plain Digest, Daily Summary, Special Notices Only, No email. This is immediately followed by two checkboxes related to using a signature: Use signature for web posting and Use signature for e-mail posting. These are followed by the signature edit box, should you wish to set up a signature that goes on to all your messages if you check one of the previously mentioned checkboxes.
  4. Use your screen reader quick navigation command to find and activate the "Advanced Preferences" heading level 3 link.
  5. There are three major sections to the advanced preferences:
    1. Message Selection. There are two radio buttons: All Messages and Following Only. If the first is selected then every message sent to the group will be sent to you in the format you selected for e-mail delivery. If you select Following Only then the only messages you will receive are messages you've chosen to follow. There is a checkbox associated with "Following Only," "First Message Also." If this checkbox is checked it serves as a selective override such that the first message in any new topic is sent to you so that you can see it and elect to follow it with the link at the end of the message if you wish to keep monitoring this topic.
    2. Replies. There is a checkbox, "Auto follow replies," which will make any topic that you start yourself, or any topic in which you reply to a message, followed. This checkbox is generally only used if you have elected to use the "Following Only" feature for message selection.
    3. Max Attachment Size (only for groups that allow attachments). This is followed by a dropdown box that allows you to choose from four different maximum sizes for attachments to be delivered to you via e-mail. The default is unlimited size. If you're using an internet service with data caps you may wish to change this. If you choose the zero option it means that all attachments will be stripped before a message is sent to you.
  6. Find the "Save" button and activate it to save these settings.

As you can see, if you choose a setup where you have elected to get messages with the "Following Only" option combined with the "First message also" checkbox this will greatly decrease the flow of e-mail you receive while allowing you to decide for each topic whether you wish to follow it to receive further messages or not. If you do nothing then you will not receive any additional messages for that particular topic unless you hit the link to follow it at the end of the message or reply to it, if the "auto follow replies" option was checked.


 

Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests

At the end of each individual  message is this collection of links:

1.       View/Reply Online followed by the Groups.io message number assigned to that message.

2.       Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3.      Reply to Sender.  This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message you’re currently reading.  Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it. 

4.      Mute this Topic.   If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link. 

5.      New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic.  Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address.

6.      A number of additional links related to the specific group, which can vary somewhat by group.

7.      A fixed collection of links:

a.      Change Your Subscription – which will take you to the Groups.io page where you can change your basic subscription options or tweak the advanced options for message delivery that I’ve written about separately.

b.      Group Home – which will take you to the Groups.io home page for the group this message originated from.

c.       Contact group owner -  uses the mailto command to cause a new, blank e-mail message to be created with the group owner address of the group already filled in.

d.      Terms of Service

e.      Unsubscribe from this Group – which throws you into the Groups.io web interface for unsubscribing from the group where this message originated.

At the end of each digest message is a collection of links:

1.       View/Reply Online followed by a count of messages in that topic already.

2.       Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3.      Reply to Sender.  This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message in question to the group.  Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it. 

4.      Mute this Topic.   If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link. 

5.      Top ^, which shoots you back to the top of the e-mail message.

6.      New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic.  Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address).

 


 

Groups.io Email Delivery & Other Control Commands That Can Be Issued by Sending an Email Message

You can send a blank email to the following email addresses (substituting your group name for GROUPNAME):

GROUPNAME+help@groups.io

To receive an automated help email containing a list of these commands plus additional information

GROUPNAME+subscribe@groups.io

To join a group

GROUPNAME+unsubscribe@groups.io

To unsubscribe from a group

GROUPNAME+owner@groups.io

To contact the owners of a group

GROUPNAME+digest@groups.io

To receive plain digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+fulldigest@groups.io

To receive full featured digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+summary@groups.io

To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+single@groups.io

To receive individual messages instead of digests or a summary

GROUPNAME+special@groups.io

To only receive special messages

GROUPNAME+nomail@groups.io

To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web)

 

 

GROUPNAMEs include, but are by no means limited to:

            win10 for the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group

            jfw       for the JAWS for Windows Support Group

            nvda    for the NVDA Screen Reader Users Group

            blindtech        for the blind technology discussion group

 

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Knowledge consists of a collection of uninspired facts. Wisdom is their artful use.


moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

The behavior of the Groups.io compose is the same whether the source for the cut material is .docx, straight .htm., or filtered .html.

As far as I'm concerned it's just plain weird since all three show the same thing with a correctly numbered list with the visual break for the line, "You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences," between what should be item 2 followed by item 3, but is being rendered as item 2 followed by a new list, at the same indent level, starting with 1.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Knowledge consists of a collection of uninspired facts. Wisdom is their artful use.


moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Filtered HTML:
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[Last Update:  5/26/2018]

 

If you have never used the groups.io website, you will need to follow the instructions just below to get a password so that you can log in to the site.  Otherwise jump straight on to the section, Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription, for the preferences that give you precise control over the messages you’ll receive from groups.io, and in what format, afterward review the section, Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests.   Note:  the easiest way to log out of the Groups.io web interface is simply to enter https://groups.io/logout in the address box of your browser and then navigate to that page.  You don’t need to locate the link showing your name, activating it to get the drop down menu, then choosing log out from that menu.

 

Getting a Password to Log in to the Groups.io Website

If you’ve subscribed via e-mail you have a Groups.io login id, your e-mail address, but you’ve never been assigned a password for the website.  To get one:

1.  In your web browser, go to the Groups.io main site login page:  https://groups.io/login

2.  Find the “Forgot your password?” link and activate it.

3.  A page with a single edit box, e-mail address will open.  Enter your e-mail address in it.

4. Navigate to the one and only button on the page, “Email Link to Log In,” and activate it.

5. Watch your e-mail, including your spam/junk box, for a message from Groups.io that will contain a link you need to activate that takes you to your Groups.io profile page where you set your password.  This is the password you’ll use to log in to any Groups.io group webpage where you wish to do something, such as changing your preferences, that requires you to be logged in to do.  You are, at this stage, actually logged in.

 

 

 

 

Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription

Adapted for Screen Reader Users by Timothy Wynn

 

These preferences allow you to get very precise control over what messages you will receive in e-mail from groups.io and the format in which you’ll receive them.  You can significantly decrease the amount of e-mail you receive from high-traffic groups while also being able to decide what's important enough to keep an eye on.

Once you get to the main Groups.io webpage, https://groups.io, you will need to navigate to the "Log In" (two words) link and activate it. Once you've entered your username, which is the e-mail address you've used to subscribe to the group(s) you routinely read, and password, activate the "Log In" button and you will be taken to the "Your Subscriptions" page.

  1. If your browser window is not already maximized, do so now (keyboard shortcut is Alt+Space, then X or Windows+Up-arrow).
    1. If the page is restored or minimized, then at the top of the page you'll see a button labeled "Toggle navigation", followed by a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io". This version of the interface will not allow you to edit any of the subscription preferences as far as I can tell.
    2. If the page is maximized, then the top of the page should have a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io", followed by a link labeled "Your Groups".
  2. Use your screen reader's table navigation commands to move to the first table found on this page. The columns should read "Group", "# Members", "Latest Message", and "Delivery". Move to the row for the group for which you wish to set up your advanced preferences, navigate over to the Delivery column, and activate the link found there.  This will bring up the Subscription page which contains the advanced email preferences.

You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences.

  1. Just so you're aware these are on the Subscription page, there is a radio button cluster for the Email Delivery options: All Messages, Full Featured Digest, Plain Digest, Daily Summary, Special Notices Only, No email. This is immediately followed by two checkboxes related to using a signature: Use signature for web posting and Use signature for e-mail posting. These are followed by the signature edit box, should you wish to set up a signature that goes on to all your messages if you check one of the previously mentioned checkboxes.
  2. Use your screen reader quick navigation command to find and activate the "Advanced Preferences" heading level 3 link.
  3. There are three major sections to the advanced preferences:
    1. Message Selection. There are two radio buttons: All Messages and Following Only. If the first is selected then every message sent to the group will be sent to you in the format you selected for e-mail delivery. If you select Following Only then the only messages you will receive are messages you've chosen to follow. There is a checkbox associated with "Following Only," "First Message Also." If this checkbox is checked it serves as a selective override such that the first message in any new topic is sent to you so that you can see it and elect to follow it with the link at the end of the message if you wish to keep monitoring this topic.
    2. Replies. There is a checkbox, "Auto follow replies," which will make any topic that you start yourself, or any topic in which you reply to a message, followed. This checkbox is generally only used if you have elected to use the "Following Only" feature for message selection.
    3. Max Attachment Size (only for groups that allow attachments). This is followed by a dropdown box that allows you to choose from four different maximum sizes for attachments to be delivered to you via e-mail. The default is unlimited size. If you're using an internet service with data caps you may wish to change this. If you choose the zero option it means that all attachments will be stripped before a message is sent to you.
  4. Find the "Save" button and activate it to save these settings.

As you can see, if you choose a setup where you have elected to get messages with the "Following Only" option combined with the "First message also" checkbox this will greatly decrease the flow of e-mail you receive while allowing you to decide for each topic whether you wish to follow it to receive further messages or not. If you do nothing then you will not receive any additional messages for that particular topic unless you hit the link to follow it at the end of the message or reply to it, if the "auto follow replies" option was checked.


 

Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests

At the end of each individual  message is this collection of links:

1.       View/Reply Online followed by the Groups.io message number assigned to that message.

2.       Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3.      Reply to Sender.  This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message you’re currently reading.  Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it. 

4.      Mute this Topic.   If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link. 

5.      New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic.  Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address.

6.      A number of additional links related to the specific group, which can vary somewhat by group.

7.      A fixed collection of links:

a.      Change Your Subscription – which will take you to the Groups.io page where you can change your basic subscription options or tweak the advanced options for message delivery that I’ve written about separately.

b.      Group Home – which will take you to the Groups.io home page for the group this message originated from.

c.       Contact group owner -  uses the mailto command to cause a new, blank e-mail message to be created with the group owner address of the group already filled in.

d.      Terms of Service

e.      Unsubscribe from this Group – which throws you into the Groups.io web interface for unsubscribing from the group where this message originated.

At the end of each digest message is a collection of links:

1.       View/Reply Online followed by a count of messages in that topic already.

2.       Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3.      Reply to Sender.  This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message in question to the group.  Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it. 

4.      Mute this Topic.   If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link. 

5.      Top ^, which shoots you back to the top of the e-mail message.

6.      New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic.  Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address).

 


 

Groups.io Email Delivery & Other Control Commands That Can Be Issued by Sending an Email Message

You can send a blank email to the following email addresses (substituting your group name for GROUPNAME):

GROUPNAME+help@groups.io

To receive an automated help email containing a list of these commands plus additional information

GROUPNAME+subscribe@groups.io

To join a group

GROUPNAME+unsubscribe@groups.io

To unsubscribe from a group

GROUPNAME+owner@groups.io

To contact the owners of a group

GROUPNAME+digest@groups.io

To receive plain digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+fulldigest@groups.io

To receive full featured digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+summary@groups.io

To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+single@groups.io

To receive individual messages instead of digests or a summary

GROUPNAME+special@groups.io

To only receive special messages

GROUPNAME+nomail@groups.io

To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web)

 

 

GROUPNAMEs include, but are by no means limited to:

            win10 for the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group

            jfw       for the JAWS for Windows Support Group

            nvda    for the NVDA Screen Reader Users Group

            blindtech        for the blind technology discussion group

 

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Knowledge consists of a collection of uninspired facts. Wisdom is their artful use.


moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Just for amusement, I opened that .docx and saved it as a Web Page, which is what follows.  I also did filtered, and will post that shortly.  On the screen the numbering remains unchanged in both of these formats:
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[Last Update:  5/26/2018]

 

If you have never used the groups.io website, you will need to follow the instructions just below to get a password so that you can log in to the site.  Otherwise jump straight on to the section, Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription, for the preferences that give you precise control over the messages you’ll receive from groups.io, and in what format, afterward review the section, Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests.   Note:  the easiest way to log out of the Groups.io web interface is simply to enter https://groups.io/logout in the address box of your browser and then navigate to that page.  You don’t need to locate the link showing your name, activating it to get the drop down menu, then choosing log out from that menu.

 

Getting a Password to Log in to the Groups.io Website

If you’ve subscribed via e-mail you have a Groups.io login id, your e-mail address, but you’ve never been assigned a password for the website.  To get one:

1.  In your web browser, go to the Groups.io main site login page:  https://groups.io/login

2.  Find the “Forgot your password?” link and activate it.

3.  A page with a single edit box, e-mail address will open.  Enter your e-mail address in it.

4. Navigate to the one and only button on the page, “Email Link to Log In,” and activate it.

5. Watch your e-mail, including your spam/junk box, for a message from Groups.io that will contain a link you need to activate that takes you to your Groups.io profile page where you set your password.  This is the password you’ll use to log in to any Groups.io group webpage where you wish to do something, such as changing your preferences, that requires you to be logged in to do.  You are, at this stage, actually logged in.

 

 

 

 

Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription

Adapted for Screen Reader Users by Timothy Wynn

 

These preferences allow you to get very precise control over what messages you will receive in e-mail from groups.io and the format in which you’ll receive them.  You can significantly decrease the amount of e-mail you receive from high-traffic groups while also being able to decide what's important enough to keep an eye on.

Once you get to the main Groups.io webpage, https://groups.io, you will need to navigate to the "Log In" (two words) link and activate it. Once you've entered your username, which is the e-mail address you've used to subscribe to the group(s) you routinely read, and password, activate the "Log In" button and you will be taken to the "Your Subscriptions" page.

  1. If your browser window is not already maximized, do so now (keyboard shortcut is Alt+Space, then X or Windows+Up-arrow).
    1. If the page is restored or minimized, then at the top of the page you'll see a button labeled "Toggle navigation", followed by a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io". This version of the interface will not allow you to edit any of the subscription preferences as far as I can tell.
    2. If the page is maximized, then the top of the page should have a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io", followed by a link labeled "Your Groups".
  2. Use your screen reader's table navigation commands to move to the first table found on this page. The columns should read "Group", "# Members", "Latest Message", and "Delivery". Move to the row for the group for which you wish to set up your advanced preferences, navigate over to the Delivery column, and activate the link found there.  This will bring up the Subscription page which contains the advanced email preferences.

You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences.

  1. Just so you're aware these are on the Subscription page, there is a radio button cluster for the Email Delivery options: All Messages, Full Featured Digest, Plain Digest, Daily Summary, Special Notices Only, No email. This is immediately followed by two checkboxes related to using a signature: Use signature for web posting and Use signature for e-mail posting. These are followed by the signature edit box, should you wish to set up a signature that goes on to all your messages if you check one of the previously mentioned checkboxes.
  2. Use your screen reader quick navigation command to find and activate the "Advanced Preferences" heading level 3 link.
  3. There are three major sections to the advanced preferences:
    1. Message Selection. There are two radio buttons: All Messages and Following Only. If the first is selected then every message sent to the group will be sent to you in the format you selected for e-mail delivery. If you select Following Only then the only messages you will receive are messages you've chosen to follow. There is a checkbox associated with "Following Only," "First Message Also." If this checkbox is checked it serves as a selective override such that the first message in any new topic is sent to you so that you can see it and elect to follow it with the link at the end of the message if you wish to keep monitoring this topic.
    2. Replies. There is a checkbox, "Auto follow replies," which will make any topic that you start yourself, or any topic in which you reply to a message, followed. This checkbox is generally only used if you have elected to use the "Following Only" feature for message selection.
    3. Max Attachment Size (only for groups that allow attachments). This is followed by a dropdown box that allows you to choose from four different maximum sizes for attachments to be delivered to you via e-mail. The default is unlimited size. If you're using an internet service with data caps you may wish to change this. If you choose the zero option it means that all attachments will be stripped before a message is sent to you.
  4. Find the "Save" button and activate it to save these settings.

As you can see, if you choose a setup where you have elected to get messages with the "Following Only" option combined with the "First message also" checkbox this will greatly decrease the flow of e-mail you receive while allowing you to decide for each topic whether you wish to follow it to receive further messages or not. If you do nothing then you will not receive any additional messages for that particular topic unless you hit the link to follow it at the end of the message or reply to it, if the "auto follow replies" option was checked.


 

Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests

At the end of each individual  message is this collection of links:

1.       View/Reply Online followed by the Groups.io message number assigned to that message.

2.       Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3.      Reply to Sender.  This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message you’re currently reading.  Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it. 

4.      Mute this Topic.   If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link. 

5.      New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic.  Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address.

6.      A number of additional links related to the specific group, which can vary somewhat by group.

7.      A fixed collection of links:

a.      Change Your Subscription – which will take you to the Groups.io page where you can change your basic subscription options or tweak the advanced options for message delivery that I’ve written about separately.

b.      Group Home – which will take you to the Groups.io home page for the group this message originated from.

c.       Contact group owner -  uses the mailto command to cause a new, blank e-mail message to be created with the group owner address of the group already filled in.

d.      Terms of Service

e.      Unsubscribe from this Group – which throws you into the Groups.io web interface for unsubscribing from the group where this message originated.

At the end of each digest message is a collection of links:

1.       View/Reply Online followed by a count of messages in that topic already.

2.       Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3.      Reply to Sender.  This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message in question to the group.  Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it. 

4.      Mute this Topic.   If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link. 

5.      Top ^, which shoots you back to the top of the e-mail message.

6.      New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic.  Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address).

 


 

Groups.io Email Delivery & Other Control Commands That Can Be Issued by Sending an Email Message

You can send a blank email to the following email addresses (substituting your group name for GROUPNAME):

GROUPNAME+help@groups.io

To receive an automated help email containing a list of these commands plus additional information

GROUPNAME+subscribe@groups.io

To join a group

GROUPNAME+unsubscribe@groups.io

To unsubscribe from a group

GROUPNAME+owner@groups.io

To contact the owners of a group

GROUPNAME+digest@groups.io

To receive plain digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+fulldigest@groups.io

To receive full featured digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+summary@groups.io

To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+single@groups.io

To receive individual messages instead of digests or a summary

GROUPNAME+special@groups.io

To only receive special messages

GROUPNAME+nomail@groups.io

To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web)

 

 

GROUPNAMEs include, but are by no means limited to:

            win10 for the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group

            jfw       for the JAWS for Windows Support Group

            nvda    for the NVDA Screen Reader Users Group

            blindtech        for the blind technology discussion group

 

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Knowledge consists of a collection of uninspired facts. Wisdom is their artful use.


moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I can only report what my personal experience has been.

I cannot count the number of times I've done direct cut and paste operations for numbered or bulleted lists out of MS-Word and into the compose window of Groups.io (and BleepingComputer.com, too) without incident.

This behavior I experienced today is, for me, the clear exception, thus the reason for my post.  I doubt very much that I am alone in expecting a cut and paste of formatted text from a word processor into a web compose window to work, at least in general.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Knowledge consists of a collection of uninspired facts. Wisdom is their artful use.


moderated Re: Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

If this is the first time you've encountered something like this, that's surprising. Office documents are full of office-specific tags and using direct cut-and-paste into a web site composition dialog is just asking for trouble.

I suggest saving the document as filtered html, reopening it and then trying your paste operation as a safer (but still not foolproof) way to achieve this objective. More than likely, in doing so you'll find that you actually had two ordered lists back-to-back in your source document and the second list started with list item #3.

Hope this helps,
Bruce 


moderated Problem with paste from MS-Word into Compose Window for Groups.io #bug

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

If you look at this message:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/controlling_your_e_mail/20334833?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,20334833

you will see in the section for Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription there is a numbered list that starts out with numbers 1 and 2, but when it gets to what should be step 3 the numbering was restarted at 1 on the paste.  The original file, which can be downloaded from the link at the outset of that message, was what was used to do the cut and paste, and you can see that the numbering is correct on the source material.

I've never had this happen on a cut and paste from MS-Word before and in this case it's not a huge deal since the source material is available for download.  But if someone were cutting and pasting a very long and complex outline-style list and the numbering and lettering were to restart at random points it could be a real mess.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 
     Knowledge consists of a collection of uninspired facts. Wisdom is their artful use.


moderated #suggestion - Add contact information to profile #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

In our application, it would be helpful if members could include their personal contact information, including mailing address, in their profile which could then be downloaded for snail mail and contact lists.

 

Not sure how/if GDPR would come into play, but since it would be voluntary it should not be a problem.

 

Here is my suggestion:

 

In the profile have the following optional fields:

 

Mailing address:

Address 1

Address 2

City, State, Zip

Country

Phone:

Cell

Home

 

In the Admin Settings, there would be a checkbox that says “Include personal contact information in the member profile.”  The box would default to un-checked so those groups who do not want to collect personal information would not be affected.

 

Then if this could be downloaded as an Excel (or CSV) file it could then be easily used for mailing.

 

Peace,

Tom

(Also submitted to the GMF Group.)


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

 

Great!

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I had already clicked on the accept banner from my main account, but after seeing this thread, I went into my two other accounts to see what was up. What I found was that the banner was still displayed, but after I logged OUT, rather than on logging in. Or maybe that's part of the page? In any case, the accept link (banner or part of page) seems to now come up for current members when they log out.

I just changed it so that after you log in on a given device, you should never see that banner again, even after you log out.

Thanks,
Mark 



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J

 

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I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I had already clicked on the accept banner from my main account, but after seeing this thread, I went into my two other accounts to see what was up. What I found was that the banner was still displayed, but after I logged OUT, rather than on logging in. Or maybe that's part of the page? In any case, the accept link (banner or part of page) seems to now come up for current members when they log out.

I just changed it so that after you log in on a given device, you should never see that banner again, even after you log out.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

 

I had already clicked on the accept banner from my main account, but after seeing this thread, I went into my two other accounts to see what was up. What I found was that the banner was still displayed, but after I logged OUT, rather than on logging in. Or maybe that's part of the page? In any case, the accept link (banner or part of page) seems to now come up for current members when they log out.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

 

Hi All,

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...> wrote:
This is a problem if the user has an ad-blocker, as they never get to see the banner and won't know what is going on.

At least that's what happens for me using AdBlock on Chrome. Doing a pause of the ad-blocker allowed me to see the banner and accept it and move on.


That's definitely a problem. Here's what I've done to hopefully fix it.

I no longer display the banner on the login screen. Instead, that text is now part of the page itself. And the act of logging in now (or using the login link/facebook or google logins) acts as acceptance of the cookie policy.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 08:44 am, Mark Fletcher wrote:
My guess is that this is the issue. We are not allowed to set any cookies until the person accepts the cookie banner on the bottom of the page. So if you try to log in, but that banner is still displayed, we cannot actually log you in. I may be able to figure out a way to display an error message in that case, but I'm not sure yet.
 
Thanks,
Mark
This is a problem if the user has an ad-blocker, as they never get to see the banner and won't know what is going on.

At least that's what happens for me using AdBlock on Chrome. Doing a pause of the ad-blocker allowed me to see the banner and accept it and move on.

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Gerald


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 07:18 am, Michael Chopra wrote:
Hi. I just tried to re-login to my groups.io account, and was unable to do so. It seems to be happening after the site updates today. What is wrong with this?
This might be a function of the need to "Accept Cookies" mentioned by Mark in his GDPR Update post on this forum. When I first tried this morning I found I couldn't log in either, but then I noticed that I was being asked to Accept Cookies, and having clicked on this I was able to log in as normal.


My guess is that this is the issue. We are not allowed to set any cookies until the person accepts the cookie banner on the bottom of the page. So if you try to log in, but that banner is still displayed, we cannot actually log you in. I may be able to figure out a way to display an error message in that case, but I'm not sure yet.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 07:18 am, Michael Chopra wrote:
Hi. I just tried to re-login to my groups.io account, and was unable to do so. It seems to be happening after the site updates today. What is wrong with this?
This might be a function of the need to "Accept Cookies" mentioned by Mark in his GDPR Update post on this forum. When I first tried this morning I found I couldn't log in either, but then I noticed that I was being asked to Accept Cookies, and having clicked on this I was able to log in as normal.

I have flagged this up on the Group for which I am a Moderator, but (to my surprise) nobody has felt the need to respond to it.

Chris


moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

Douglas Swearingen <dougiebehr@...>
 

I got the same problem this morning.  I was only able to login after I searched for the group I am owner, clicked on the groups description, then clicked on the option to login if already a member of the group.


This may or may not be a bug, So I will report this to support.


Doug




From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Michael Chopra <michaelchopra38@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 12:00 AM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: [beta] Loggin link/forgot password feature broken
 
Hi. I just tried to re-login to my groups.io account, and was unable to
do so. It seems to be happening after the site updates today. What is
wrong with this?

Thanks.

 From Michael.





moderated Re: Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

Duane
 

Everything worked fine for me.  Things like this should be reported to support@groups.io.  This group is is intended to discuss new or requested features.

Duane


moderated Loggin link/forgot password feature broken

Michael Chopra
 

Hi. I just tried to re-login to my groups.io account, and was unable to do so. It seems to be happening after the site updates today. What is wrong with this?

Thanks.

From Michael.


moderated Re: How do I switch who is paying for a group?

 

Hi Jennifer,

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Jennifer Christian <jhchristian@...> wrote:

I am an owner of several Groups.io groups, three of which are "premium".  I am already being billed and paying the monthly fee for two of them automatically via credit card.   A colleague is paying for the third via her credit card. 

Now I want to take over the responsibility for paying for the third one (ACOEM-WFDSection).  When I go to my Accounts, I do not see an option to add payment for another group that already exists.    

Once you are a moderator or owner of that group, go to the group and look for the Billing tab under the Admin sidebar menu. Click that, and there should be a button to take over paying for that group.

Hope this helps.
Mark 


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • NEW: The website now requires consent for cookies.
  • NEW: Added cookie policy.
  • NEW: Revamped terms of service/privacy policy/about/cookie policy sidebar navigation.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed infinite loop when finding a File path in a specific case.
  • INTERNAL: Made it easier to profile the web servers in production.
  • NEW: Account export lets you specify which groups to export data from, and the export is better broken out by group.
  • SYSADMIN: Added an additional webserver.
  • CHANGE: We now parse a bunch more incorrect Date: header line formats, where the day of the week is spelled out (Monday) and/or the month is spelled out (January).

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark

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