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moderated Re: Account export

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Mark,
Splitting Account Messages by Group Options Since I belong to many groups, the full account download is quite large. It is also very tedious to sort through the messages for a specific group. For these reasons, it would be nice if there were a group specific option to do the export. As an alternate solution, the messages could be split out by group in the full account download.
--  Gerald


moderated Re: "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

Tom Vail
 

It would also, and maybe more importantly, give them to option to reject inappropriate material (not that anyone would ever do that 😊 ).

 

Peace,

Tom

 

 

From: <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Jones via Groups.Io" <chrisjones12@...>
Reply-To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 2:24 AM
To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [beta] "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

 

Thinking about this a little more brought me to the point where I realised that there might be some benefit in both File and Photo uploads having to pass through (optional) Moderation, so that Group managers could put the material in the optimum location depending on what it actually is, or determine if it deserves a new Folder / Album in its own right, and if so what the title / name ought to be.

It would help eliminate the infuriating randomness that can easily arise, although it might be a big ask from Mark's point of view.

Chris


moderated Re: "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

Tom Vail
 

Great idea and one more tool in the group manager’s belt.

 

Peace,

Tom

 

 

From: <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of Victoria <dr.vcaesar@...>
Reply-To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 5:17 AM
To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Subject: [beta] "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

 

Chris,

 

well, all I am asking for is a notification. It could easily be added here:

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Notifications

Email when there are messages needing approval.

Email when there are members needing approval.

Email when a member joins/leaves this group.

Email when group storage limits are reached.

Email when someone creates or deletes a subgroup.

Email when someone reports a message.

 

  • Email when a file is uploaded.
  • Email when a photo is uploaded.


Each moderator can decide if he/she wants to check it or not.

Victoria


moderated Re: Account export

Gerald Boutin <groupsio@...>
 

Arno,

It is just a text file. Any text editor such as Notepad work to view the file and messages in it.

--
Gerald


moderated "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

 

Chris,

 

well, all I am asking for is a notification. It could easily be added here:

---
Notifications

Email when there are messages needing approval.

Email when there are members needing approval.

Email when a member joins/leaves this group.

Email when group storage limits are reached.

Email when someone creates or deletes a subgroup.

Email when someone reports a message.

 

o   Email when a file is uploaded.

o   Email when a photo is uploaded.


Each moderator can decide if he/she wants to check it or not.

Victoria


moderated Re: Account export

Arno Martens
 

Download works well. Extraction of messages ends up as .mbox. I know it is a UNIX type but have to find out how to open it to see indivdual messages.


moderated Re: "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

 

Chris,

 

 

A Notification about a File upload is available as an option to whoever uploads the file; I don't think there is a Moderator - level option to force a notification, though.

 

Exactly. Example: Files are uploaded by whoever, but unless the notification is checked no one gets the message. That´s not always problem-free.

There appears to be no corresponding option available for notification of Photo uploads.

 

Photo uploading without notification can be even more inconvenient.


If you are suggesting a Owner / Moderator settable "forced" notification than I think I would probably agree with you.

 

Yes, that´s what I mean.

 

Victoria




moderated Re: "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

Chris Jones
 

Thinking about this a little more brought me to the point where I realised that there might be some benefit in both File and Photo uploads having to pass through (optional) Moderation, so that Group managers could put the material in the optimum location depending on what it actually is, or determine if it deserves a new Folder / Album in its own right, and if so what the title / name ought to be.

It would help eliminate the infuriating randomness that can easily arise, although it might be a big ask from Mark's point of view.

Chris


moderated suggestions for changes in the activity log

 

Hi,

 

I.                 It would be convenient to have a “membership (or subscription) activity” that only shows subscription histories of all members chronologically with dates (applied for membership, joined group, subscribed, left group, changed email, etc) instead of an all inclusive “member activity” where everything members do (including moderators) is listed. A search for certain activities is

The result being that when I go to “
membership or subscription activity” I only see membership/subscription activities there and nothing else. All the other activities of a member can easily be looked up in their “activity history” within their “membership” log, so we do not need this twice.

Besides there already is a “
message activity” feature in the “activity” log, where posting activities show up which make it triple.

 

II.                Moderator activity” in my opinion should be restrained to subscription matters only, meaning that here the activities of a moderator relating to members should be listed. They should not be mixed up with “web activities” which are the ones a moderator does like file uploading, changing or deleting files, photos, etc..

 

III.              For the latter a feature called “web activities” would be extremely convenient. Here we would see all the just mentioned activites undertaken by moderators concerning files, photos, databases and others.

 

Just a suggestion, very appreciated if practicable…..

 

Thanks

 

Victoria

 

 


moderated Re: "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

Chris Jones
 

A Notification about a File upload is available as an option to whoever uploads the file; I don't think there is a Moderator - level option to force a notification, though.

There appears to be no corresponding option available for notification of Photo uploads.

If you are suggesting a Owner / Moderator settable "forced" notification than I think I would probably agree with you.

Chris


moderated "File uploaded" and "Photo uploaded" owner notification

 

Hi,

I would really appreciate an option that triggers a notification to group owners and moderators each time a file or a photo is uploaded.

Is it possible to have this programmed?

Victoria


moderated Re: Group Setting to Enable From Address via groups.io #suggestion

 

Bob,

So, with both options enabled (below) which one rules in case of opposite selections by Group owner and account owner?

The way I wrote it the Account setting would have precedence; the group setting would be a default applied only to  accounts that had not already made a selection.

The way Pete wrote it the result would be the logical OR of the two - munge the header-from if either or both of the group and the account say to.

And, by account owner do you mean Subscription owner (for a single group) or Account owner (which is the base account of a person at groups.io?

I mean account - affecting all of the user's subscriptions. That's because the issue is a characteristic of his/her email service, affecting whether of not messages from others are delivered to him/her.

Shal


moderated Merging left group(s) without an owner #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- Just reporting on a possible system bug.

A poster on GMF recently used the [relatively new] "Account Merge" function, with an owner email address as the "from" account. In so doing inadvertently left two of her groups without an owner. I know there is a safeguard to keep this from happening with the "Account Delete" function but it seems that this safeguard has not been carried over into merge.

I've suggested that she send you a separate note at support but I felt I would mention it here as well.

Thanks,
Bruce


moderated Account export

 

Hi All,

As a corollary to exporting a group, you can now export all of your data. Go to your main Account page and press the Export My Account button. It works similarly to the group export in that you should receive an email within 10 minutes with a link to download all of your data. You'll get all the messages you've posted, all the photos you've uploaded, etc to all of your groups. Basically, all the data we have from you (minus wiki images, which I'm still working on).

The paint's still wet on the code, so please let me know if you see any bugs.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Bruce Bowman
 

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 04:28 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
But now, you can also export the activity logs. It's a HTML file, one log entry per line.
Could the exported activity log include a date/timestamp for each entry?

I realize that doing so might require using a different format from HTML or at least inserting a delimiter of some kind.

Thanks,
Bruce


moderated Re: Group Setting to Enable From Address via groups.io #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

So, with both options enabled (below) which one rules in case of opposite selections by Group owner and account owner?
And, by account owner do you mean Subscription owner (for a single group) or Account owner (which is the base account of a person at groups.io?

Account level option: If enabled, all messages sent -to- that account will have the "munged" From address.

Group level option: If  enabled, all messages sent -via- the group will have the "munged" From address giving all members the same experience.
--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Export group

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 09:28 am, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It was a different issue, involving the activity log export. It's been fixed and I generated an export for your group.
Yes, I have it now. Thanks!

Bruce


moderated Add numeric as a column type #suggestion

Lew Volk
 

Currently, numbers in a column get sorted as if they were alpha characters.  I'd think a column type of 'numeric' could fix that.


moderated Re: Export group

 

Hi Bruce,

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:19 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Sorry to report that something is still amiss...any export exceeding ~100 MB continues to fail for my group.

It was a different issue, involving the activity log export. It's been fixed and I generated an export for your group.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Photo Album Sort Option

Chris Jones
 

I'm far from certain that Photo Albums always being listed by creation date would actually be of much help; it certainly wouldn't have been of any help on the Group that I Moderate, because each album - having been somewhat randomly named by its originator - rarely bore any relationship to its contents. (You might be lucky and not have this problem!) Listing by creation date would also not address the problem of someone adding to an existing album, resulting in some material in that album being much more recent than the album itself.

We had a (major?) problem when we migrated from Yahoo in that our Files and Photos total exceeded the 1GB allowance, so some rapid deletions were required to make some room. Since then I have been right though both sections trying to rationalise their contents, with most if not albums being renamed so that their name reflected what was actually in them, and also making sure that "like material" was in one album, not spread over a number of different albums. (Again your requirements may differ.) I was surprised just how much space I released by deleting duplicate and near - duplicate material.

What would really have been helpful would have been the ability to move photos between albums without having to download them and then upload them again to a different Album; apart from being more than a little tedious this also removes the attribution of each photo thus moved, and more work is required to make sure (insofar as it is practicable) that the originator's name is mentioned in the accompanying text. (Moving Files between Folders in the Files section is easy; the means of moving them is made available.)

I put this up as a suggestion, and it seemed that others supported it, but I have no idea whether Mark has put it on his "to do" list, much less where on that list it might be; there are a lot of competing priorities.

With there being nothing to prevent group members naming Albums (or Files) as they wish it seems to me that it is more or less inevitable that both Photos and Files sections will become more and more chaotic as time passes, unless Group Owners and Moderators take it upon themselves to "manage" the process retrospectively; I suspect that trying to enforce any sort of order in advance (by "instructions") is doomed to fail.

If anyone has found a solution to that I would very much like to hear it!

Chris

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