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moderated Re: Group Description

 

J,

Well, here´s the title. It´s in German:
Gesunderhaltung, Ernährung, Verhalten, Cushing und andere Erkrankungen“

It´s bold enough to make everyone see it´s a title.

And as far as I can see, most groups have a title which is self-explaining.

Victoria

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Where? Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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J

 


moderated Re: Group Description

 

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 09:45 am, Victoria wrote:
There´s a title to the description already.
Where? Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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J

 

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moderated Group Description

 

J,

 

Well, it´s not a language issue alone. I simply find it redundant. There´s a title to the description already. I believe readers are clever enough to know that the text following the title is a group descriptionJ.

 

I post this in beta because I thought it could maybe be changed to optional.

 

By the way, I don´t think I´m so special about this. There were quite a few voices in this direction. Pre-formulated texts such as boiler plates and non-alterable titles generally make one feel being patronized, so as if, sorry to say this, group owners were not able to create their own texts for various situationsJ.

 

Victoria

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Also, a non-German speaking person (like me), or a person who knows just a little German and is interested in your group, gets a better idea of how to read your home page with the titles than without them.
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J

 


moderated Re: Group Description

 

Also, a non-German speaking person (like me), or a person who knows just a little German and is interested in your group, gets a better idea of how to read your home page with the titles than without them.
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J

 

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moderated Re: Group Description

 

technically, I cannot contribute anything to this matter
Victoria,

I don't think it's a technical issue. I'm trying to imagine this as a sight-impaired person reading the screen, and I think that "group description" serves a function in alerting them to what follows. 

If your issue is simply a language issue, then "group description" is no worse than any of the other English titles on the page. 
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Group Description

 

Hi, J. and Bruce,

 

technically, I cannot contribute anything to this matter, f. e.  if that term “group description” serves any vital functional issue. I just find it takes space away aside from being another disturbing foreign term above my German group description.

 

To see here:

https://groups.io/g/cushinghundevital

 

But thanks for considering my issue

Victoria

 

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I think that there are some considerations made to accommodate the sight-impaired members of groups.io. I don't know if this is explicitly one of them, but in any case, getting rid of this title might make things more difficult from that aspect.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Group Description

 

I think that there are some considerations made to accommodate the sight-impaired members of groups.io. I don't know if this is explicitly one of them, but in any case, getting rid of this title might make things more difficult from that aspect.
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J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Purging Duplicate Emailed Photos

Bruce Bowman
 

I suggest that a bulk photo delete capability -- combined with the ability to sort said photos by file size -- could give group managers most of the functionality they need to clean up this folder without too much system kludging on Mark's part.

As for images in sigs, I'd suggest having a setting for each group that optionally allows for all embedded images to be stripped before they are remailed and stored on the server. In groups with this flag set only file attachments would be retained as Emailed Photos.

Just some thoughts,
Bruce


moderated Re: Group Description

Bruce Bowman
 

>> So why can´t we do without this term?

This label serves to identify the field so you know what to edit in the Settings. That said, I can see why some would consider it unnecessary; and in fact several of the labels found on the home page strike me as no less superfluous.

Bruce


moderated Make Database Link Title and Description optional

Tom H
 

Could the Input form for a Link field in a database be changed to make the Title and Description optional, leaving only the URL mandatory? If Title is empty, then display the URL.

Alternatively, as was suggested in a now locked topic, "linkify" URLs in a text field.

Why? With three mandatory input fields when only one is needed, manual data entry is tedious.


moderated Group Description

 

"Group Information" and "Group Settings" contain necessary information. But in my eyes the term "Group Description" on the front page is unnessecary. For everyone knows the text under the cover photo is the description of the group. So why can´t we do without this term?
Victoria


moderated Search all wiki actions in Member Activity #suggestion

 

Mark,

In each group's Activity log it is a minor pain to find out what has been updated in the group's Wiki. One has to individually search for:
  • Added image to wiki
  • Added wikipage
  • Deleted image from wiki
  • Deleted wikipage
  • Modified wikipage
A selection for "Any wiki change" would be welcome. Actually, there are other topics within the logs which are also covered by multiple entries, and those too could use an "any" selection.

Eventually I hope the notifications overhaul gives me the ability to be notified by web and/or email for such events, but until then...

Shal


moderated Visibility in Privacy section of group Settings page - s/archive/message archive/

 

Mark,

It has become almost a FAQ in GMF to explain that the Visibility option refers to the messages only. Many people interpret "archive" more broadly to include other areas of the group.

I recommend adding the word "message" in front of each use of the word "archive" - in the drop-list entries as well as the sentence below the control.

Either that or simply replace "archive" with "Messages".

Shal


moderated Re: New Members & Passwords

Sharon Villines
 

On Mar 10, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote:

But it doesn’t say how to set up a password.
I think it would be better if there was ONE landing page for signing in, confirming an email address, and setting up a password, whichever sign in/password scheme people want to use.

I’m trying to write directions and it would be much easier if I didn’t have to test and describe all the possible ways a member might come to the Group Home. We have some detail people who want to follow precise instructions.

Sharon
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Sharon Villines
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moderated Re: New Members & Passwords

Sharon Villines
 

On Mar 10, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Shal Farley <@Shal> wrote:

Sharon,

1. The group name has been changed from members-only to members. How
do I fix this?
I don't think you do, that should be automatic. Wasn't the group name still members-only at the time that particular member attempted to confirm?
I think I may have rewritten the notice when it was the old name and not updated it.


2. There is no option to set up a password. This reads as if the only
option is to use Facebook or Google.
Re-read the sentence. Before it mentions Facebook or Google it says:

If you need to login in the future, you can have a login link emailed
to you, ...

But it doesn’t say how to set up a password. With a password, the browser saves it and you never have to log in again. I can’t imagine wanting to wait for a confirmation email when what I want to do is read my mail.

Sharon.


moderated Re: New Members & Passwords

 

Sharon,

1. The group name has been changed from members-only to members. How
do I fix this?
I don't think you do, that should be automatic. Wasn't the group name still members-only at the time that particular member attempted to confirm?

2. There is no option to set up a password. This reads as if the only
option is to use Facebook or Google.
Re-read the sentence. Before it mentions Facebook or Google it says:

If you need to login in the future, you can have a login link emailed
to you, ...
Maybe this landing page ought not bother to mention Facebook or Google, that seems to distract people.

Shal


moderated Re: Deleting accounts -- two different instructions

 

Mark -
I want to take a brief moment to thank you once again for taking the time to comment on the situation and explain the reasons why the group does things the way it does. This in one more reason why groups.io is so much better than any of the alternatives; users on beta are kept informed and we feel like we are all part of the system, not just mushrooms.
Dano

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Clicking the Delete My Account button brings you to the section of the help that tells you to send an email to support to delete your account. I haven't automated deletions yet for security concerns and because some enterprise groups want to be notified/take care of account deletions themselves.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Deleting accounts -- two different instructions

 

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 09:11 am, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I haven't automated deletions yet for security concerns
Guru Mark has spoken! The koan is resolved! :)
 
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J

 

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I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Deleting accounts -- two different instructions

 

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:17 PM, David Grimm <engrdave325@...> wrote:
I tried to delete a second account I had made before I found out I could just add that second address as an alias on the first one. Going to my account settings page, there is a button marked 'Delete my account'. But using that apparently didn't delete the account because when I tried to put the second address in as an alias, it said that address was already registered.


Clicking the Delete My Account button brings you to the section of the help that tells you to send an email to support to delete your account. I haven't automated deletions yet for security concerns and because some enterprise groups want to be notified/take care of account deletions themselves. 

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Deleting accounts -- two different instructions

David Grimm
 

Well, that's my 'learn something new everyday' bit for today! I had to look up the word. But maybe you're right. Anyway, Mark just notified me that he deleted my second account and I was able to add it as an alias like I originally wanted. 

Dave